The Blame Game

[pbmax]

Re: The Blame Game

Rodgers committed two turnovers with one leading to the direct end of the game. He for some reason gets a free pass from the fans and media. Why? Favre certainly didn't get this free pass against New York, which was a better defense than that of the Cardinals. Is it because this is Rodgers first trip to the playoffs? Or is Rodgers simply more likable than what Favre was at the end of his career in Green Bay?

Fans are quick to hold Favre completely responsible for the loss in the NFC Championship game two years ago, when will the same effect start happening to Rodgers if the trend of playoff turnovers continue?

1. No one holds Favre completely responsible.
2. 45 points. Should be enough.
3. Rodgers didn't do enough. And he made too many mistakes. Missed the throw in OT.
4. Rodgers 1 pick on 42 attempts, 2 INTs on 35 atts for Favre.

[Brandon494]

Re: The Blame Game

Rodgers committed two turnovers with one leading to the direct end of the game. He for some reason gets a free pass from the fans and media. Why? Favre certainly didn't get this free pass against New York, which was a better defense than that of the Cardinals. Is it because this is Rodgers first trip to the playoffs? Or is Rodgers simply more likable than what Favre was at the end of his career in Green Bay?

Fans are quick to hold Favre completely responsible for the loss in the NFC Championship game two years ago, when will the same effect start happening to Rodgers if the trend of playoff turnovers continue?

Give me a break, Favre played like shit that whole NFC Championship game!

If not for AR we would have been blow out!

Seriously the dude just set a franchise playoff record for passing yards

Also the defense didnt give up 50+ points in the NF Championship game

LAME POST!

[Sparkey]

Re: The Blame Game

Rodgers committed two turnovers with one leading to the direct end of the game. He for some reason gets a free pass from the fans and media. Why? Favre certainly didn't get this free pass against New York, which was a better defense than that of the Cardinals. Is it because this is Rodgers first trip to the playoffs? Or is Rodgers simply more likable than what Favre was at the end of his career in Green Bay?

Fans are quick to hold Favre completely responsible for the loss in the NFC Championship game two years ago, when will the same effect start happening to Rodgers if the trend of playoff turnovers continue?

Give me a break, Favre played like shit that whole NFC Championship game!

If not for AR we would have been blow out!

Seriously the dude just set a franchise playoff record for passing yards

Also the defense didnt give up 50+ points in the NF Championship game

LAME POST!

Interestingly, the playoff record for passing yards, that Rodgers broke, previously belonged to Lynn Dickey!

[Bretsky]

This was a topic from Mike Heller this afternoon

Everybody knows Rodgers played an awesome game; like the defense he deserves some blame in the four bad plays...his first play, his last play, and the two crappy throws that both could have been TD's to Jennings.

Regardless, hopefully the entire team learns from their mistakes and wins the next one.

Think how AWESOME things would be right now if Rodgers hits Jennings in stride in OT and the Pack wins that game.

[pbmax]

This was a topic from Mike Heller this afternoon

Everybody knows Rodgers played an awesome game; like the defense he deserves some blame in the four bad plays...his first play, his last play, and the two crappy throws that both could have been TD's to Jennings.

Regardless, hopefully the entire team learns from their mistakes and wins the next one.

Think how AWESOME things would be right now if Rodgers hits Jennings in stride in OT and the Pack wins that game.

The problem here (and with Heller in general) is missing the forest for the trees. You can wish your QB to hit the big play all you want, but deep throws are dicey propositions every time.

However, playing at least passable pass defense should not be beyond the ken of a professional football franchise. This should be far easier to fix and more consistently delivered. Yes you want Rodgers to hit the play when available, but you cannot depend on it like you should be able to depend on minimally average pass defense.

But Rodgers is still on the hook for the INT and holding the ball too long.

[Lurker64]

It's hard to blame anybody for a loss when that player threw for >400 yards, completed 2/3 of his passes, and accounted for 5 total touchdowns (3 more than the number of turnovers he committed). Any time a player has a performance like that and his team doesn't win the game for whatever reason, the hunt for blame can't start with the quarterback.

[Patler]

The problem here (and with Heller in general) is missing the forest for the trees. You can wish your QB to hit the big play all you want, but deep throws are dicey propositions every time.

However, playing at least passable pass defense should not be beyond the ken of a professional football franchise. This should be far easier to fix and more consistently delivered. Yes you want Rodgers to hit the play when available, but you cannot depend on it like you should be able to depend on minimally average pass defense.

But Rodgers is still on the hook for the INT and holding the ball too long.

No one is missing the forest for the trees. If you want to ask why GB lost, you have to consider defense first. Obviously no one should give up 51 in a playoff game. Clearly, Rodgers played well enough to win..

But I wasn't assessing blame for a loss. Initially I responded to opinions elevating Rodgers to the level of Starr and Favre based on the game yesterday. I can't do that. In the end, you have to finish, no matter how great you played before then. If you don't, it all goes for nothing. It becomes just stats. I whole heartedly agree that a deep pass is not something you can depend on, and you shouldn't have to. However, truly great players make the plays you can't depend on, and they do it at the time it matters most. Unfortunately for GB and Rodgers, the throw required to Jennings would not even have been a great throw.

Do I blame him for missing it? Of course not. On the other hand, I can't elevate his performance beyond what it was, very impressive but not enough on that day at that time.

He opened a lot of eyes yesterday, especially with Aikman praising him over and over. Completing that one pass would have pushed him through the bubble, and no one would ever again question if he can take the team on his back and win a game. As it was, he took the team on his back and got extremely close. Questions will remain until he finishes the job.

[gex]

This was a topic from Mike Heller this afternoon

Everybody knows Rodgers played an awesome game; like the defense he deserves some blame in the four bad plays...his first play, his last play, and the two crappy throws that both could have been TD's to Jennings.

Regardless, hopefully the entire team learns from their mistakes and wins the next one.

Think how AWESOME things would be right now if Rodgers hits Jennings in stride in OT and the Pack wins that game.

After watching that replay a few times, if only he had gotton a little more air under the ball and 5 yards deeper.Jennings would have been able to run under it cause there was nobody to slow him down...that ball just needed to be in the air for a few more seconds.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Re: The Blame Game

Rodgers committed two turnovers with one leading to the direct end of the game. He for some reason gets a free pass from the fans and media. Why? Favre certainly didn't get this free pass against New York, which was a better defense than that of the Cardinals. Is it because this is Rodgers first trip to the playoffs? Or is Rodgers simply more likable than what Favre was at the end of his career in Green Bay?

Fans are quick to hold Favre completely responsible for the loss in the NFC Championship game two years ago, when will the same effect start happening to Rodgers if the trend of playoff turnovers continue?

Favre wasn't completely responsible for the loss two years ago. McCarthy's abandonment of the run allowing NY to drop 11 into coverage ultimately was. Favre definitely choked on that last play of the game and if he hadn't quit on the team (50% passing 2 picks, sloppy decisions), he should have never thrown that ball. You have to run the ball in Lambeau in January in the Playoffs.