Way to go #21!! DPOY

[swede]

You all jus make sure u dont use it.

Just an observation: It seems unfortunate that our American language has words that from a person of one skin color is endearing that coming from a person of another skin color is deeply offensive. Further enforcing and defending the use of such words doesn't help ease the racial barrier but instead further striates it, even if the striation is much more subtle than the gregarious sins of the past.

Hoosier, as usual, is eloquent, even in his defense of this odious racial slur; and, if we but only follow his university logic, the flock is shown that what we think to be wrong is actually right as long as the context is shifted. No sociology professor could have done better. Next on the list I suppose will be the cultural references which allow honor killings. Context is supreme in the land of situational ethics.

Neither the "apologia" by Hoosier or the apology by Mobb helps me explain to young people why a double standard should exist in our homes, our community, and our schools. Children are capable of repeating the slur, but not capable of understanding why children of one race would have special ownership of a demeaning word.

Save the sanctimonious rationalizing. Stand on principle for once.

Congratulations, Charles Woodson.

[MadtownPacker]

You all jus make sure u dont use it. A few posters may actualy use this as a free opportunity to type the word on this forum...hmmmm....like madtown bean-eating tail lol...I blackend many an eye in undergrad as a result. public enemy had my mad radical

again, sorry

but try to remain light hearted

one love

Listen BROTHA my Black homies from way back are Black on the outside AND inside unlike your WI Oreo cookie ass. I need no excuse to call it like it is. I love the word and say it to anyone regardless of color. Dont be mad cuz you choose to grow up with White kids so you could be the fastest.

This is probably you anyways. Sellout.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Apologies....Im certainly black (actually pro-black) and regardless of the obvious demographic on this forum i thought the vast majority of posters understood that in our culture the word is OFTEN used as term of endearment. I would bet a years salary that CWood himself uses it.

I'm sure most here have heard rap music, comedians, or black peers use this word in that fashion. There was actually a time when I wouldnt use the word because I felt that there's so much power in it and that it may have deleterious impact of some black ppl's sense of racial pride: especially within the population that I serve in the black community. Now I feel that there are much bigger fish to fry that have nothing to do with the use of that word, which is rampant in their daily living (e.g., sex abuse, education, decision-making, health issues, etc)

I will submit that perhaps I should use it less liberally because many ppl still cringe or it conotes a negative image

Not sure why a white person would be "offended" though. Hoosier may actually be making an excellent point. but its NOT pronounced with an 'er but an 'a and OF COURSE shouldnt be used by a respectful non-black

Awesome post, my nig!

Lord Favre!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Why get so riled up about black culture's use of the word "nigger"? What is offensive is not the word itself but the social context of deeply engrained racism in which it was used. When a black person refers another black person using that same word today, the intent as I understand it is not to bring up old wounds or play up racial divisions but basically to claim ownership over the word rather than allowing yourself to be defined by how other groups talk about you. Or, if you want a medical analogy, it's like a vaccine in which you voluntarily inject yourself with a virus in order to develop immunity to it.

What is so offensive about this? Is it because many of us have become comfortable with the idea that we're living in a post racial society, and little things like this keep bringing race back into the picture?

My apologies to whoever started this thread for having taken it even further off topic.

How do you know he's black? Should you know he's black? Does the owner of this place want to invite new posters?Or keep the same ol' boys club? You cannot possibly have separate sets of standards for people on here. There is no way of knowing and there should be no way of knowing anyones age race religion or sexual preference. I dont say this casually either.

I don't know for certain whether the person who posts as Mobb is black or not, just that his online persona is convincingly "black"--in contrast, say, to Ty's. But I was really responding to MPF's view that the word is inherently offensive regardless of what context it is used in--which would include blacks calling other blacks "nig" or "nigga" (thanks to Mobb for the clarification). I have a hard time understanding why others would take offense at that.

Not kewl, my nig!

[Zool]

You all jus make sure u dont use it. A few posters may actualy use this as a free opportunity to type the word on this forum...hmmmm....like madtown bean-eating tail lol...I blackend many an eye in undergrad as a result. public enemy had my mad radical

again, sorry

but try to remain light hearted

one love

Listen BROTHA my Black homies from way back are Black on the outside AND inside unlike your WI Oreo cookie ass. I need no excuse to call it like it is. I love the word and say it to anyone regardless of color. Dont be mad cuz you choose to grow up with White kids so you could be the fastest.

This is probably you anyways. Sellout.

Why can't you beige boys just be happy being yourself? You ain't gots ta be black ta be proud.

[channtheman]

Woodson is a class act, and is constantly reliable. He had his struggles in the playoff game, as did the entire defense. Weather or not Fitz knocked down Woodson twice on purpose with no calls or not, woodson falling down in coverage, even man to man, is not typical and I doubt it's a concern for next season.

Through 16 games this year, woodson played at another level others can't match. He was clearly the all around best defensive player. All you need to do is look at our biggest win of the year... beating Dallas. One could point at Woodson and go "You are why we won this game". That is saying something coming from the CB spot.

All the credit in the world to Revis - he did win the best CB of the year award, and man to man I am not sure Woodson is as good. Still, overall, woodson is an all around beast, and is very hard to "take him out" of the game. Revis can be avoided, woodson can't.

Even in woodson's "bad" showing in the playoff game, he still forced a fumble from Fitz, which was a key play since our defense hadn't stopped AZ yet. That play showed why he is the best, even if he had some uncharacterisitc mistakes in the second half.

Woodson also tipped a pass away from a Cardinal receiver in the second half on 3rd down and other than the fumble that he caused as you noted and the missed field goal, that was the only other time we stopped the Cardinals.

[MOBB DEEP]

You all jus make sure u dont use it. A few posters may actualy use this as a free opportunity to type the word on this forum...hmmmm....like madtown bean-eating tail lol...I blackend many an eye in undergrad as a result. public enemy had my mad radical

again, sorry

but try to remain light hearted

one love

Listen BROTHA my Black homies from way back are Black on the outside AND inside unlike your WI Oreo cookie ass. I need no excuse to call it like it is. I love the word and say it to anyone regardless of color. Dont be mad cuz you choose to grow up with White kids so you could be the fastest.

This is probably you anyways. Sellout.

HILARIOUS....i never should have said how I went to a highschool with only 16 black folk, 8 of whom were DEF trying to assimilate. And how my best friend was a whimpy white boy who liked rap while my big all-sports-playing tail was sweatn Iron Maiden and Judas frickn Priest. Of course he married a fine sista LOL

Im very impressed that so many here care about the use of the word. I thought most who jumped on me (save my man Mich) where just using it as an excuse to flame me b/c we defer on other topics

I misjudged alot of you and actually wana apologize for that as well. I do think that MANY white folks use the word in a negative way because of my experiences. but i LOVE being enlightened and appreciate this "discussion."

Great posts Swede, smidge, Mich, hoosier, and even mad's crazy tail

My hearts kinda warm right now even though you all are such a small segment. gives me hope

now, WHERES MY 40 ACRES AND A MULE?????