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  • #16
    he did play better this year but was clearly the second best MLB on the Packers, no debate there. People for some odd reason really seem to like AJ. That is fine but his play does not merit his strong support.
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    • #17
      Agree and that is why I think he stays
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      • #18
        Hawk is not a great LB...but I don't see why you would get rid of him right now. He's at least a serviceable MLB in the 3-4. Sure, he could be upgraded...but why get rid of him before you actually FIND the upgrade? Considering that the "upgrade" is likely to be a draft pick, there is no guarantee the "upgrade" will actually be an upgrade in 2010. It may take another year or two.
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        • #19
          i think hawk is solid, not spectacular at all. but solid

          replacing hawk with chillar is a step in the wrong direction IMO. i haven't seen anything out of the guy to make me think he's anything more then a decent backup

          if they want to replace him, then fine. they better draft a damn good MLB or pick one up in free agency, because an upgrade is not on our roster

          hawk might not have lived up to the #5 overall pick to this point. but he's become a quality starter. if he was picked in the second or third, i doubt people would be complaining about him

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          • #20
            Hawk is too inconsistent. If unwilling to take roster bonus reduction then trade.

            McClain or Spikes may warrant moving up ala Clay Matthews. Physical players better suited for the 3-4 ilb than Hawk.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rbaloha
              Hawk is too inconsistent. If unwilling to take roster bonus reduction then trade.

              McClain or Spikes may warrant moving up ala Clay Matthews. Physical players better suited for the 3-4 ilb than Hawk.
              Spikes is worthless. McClain is the only MLB worth taking in round 1, and he didn't impress me at all in the national championship. I saw better players around him making plays which put McClain in position at times. Alabama's DL is nasty, which makes decent LB's a TON better in college.
              "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rbaloha
                McClain or Spikes may warrant moving up ala Clay Matthews.
                We have far more pressing needs at OT and CB to address with high draft picks, IMO.

                Why dump Hawk to pick up an unproven rookie LB? Again, Hawk is not great, but he IS serviceable. No draft pick is guaranteed to be serviceable.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by The Leaper
                  Hawk is not a great LB...but I don't see why you would get rid of him right now.
                  I think he is due for a sizable salary increase next year, leading to speculation that GB might not want to pay it for a part time player.

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                  • #24
                    You guys realize that the blurb said Milwaukee Journal Sentinel EXPECTS Hawk to be replaced. They EXPECT a lot of crap that never happens. More stellar journalism from the JS of misinformation.
                    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MJZiggy
                      You guys realize that the blurb said Milwaukee Journal Sentinel EXPECTS Hawk to be replaced. They EXPECT a lot of crap that never happens. More stellar journalism from the JS of misinformation.
                      Ding, ding, ding... I think we have a winner. That was my first reaction to the story and than I watched a lot of people step over others in order to rip A.J. Anybody that thinks Chiller or Bishop is better needs to pay more attention. I'd replace Barnett & Jones before I changed out A.J. unless you found a more physical LB that can play better in coverage.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Patler
                        Originally posted by The Leaper
                        Hawk is not a great LB...but I don't see why you would get rid of him right now.
                        I think he is due for a sizable salary increase next year, leading to speculation that GB might not want to pay it for a part time player.
                        Rotoworld says he is due $4.1 mil for 2010. Chillar is set to make $1.9 mil.

                        Not sure I'd make any assumptions based on either number. Sounds like starter money and part time starter money. I doubt they'd be inclined to let finances make the decision on this one. Seems like they can easily keep both around without any major effect on their budget, and there is no salary cap, so they don't have to worry as much about dropping a chunk of money on new contracts. They have the money.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Patler
                          Originally posted by The Leaper
                          Hawk is not a great LB...but I don't see why you would get rid of him right now.
                          I think he is due for a sizable salary increase next year, leading to speculation that GB might not want to pay it for a part time player.
                          At the same time though, it's looking like there will be no salary cap next year and the Packers are one of the more profitable teams in the NFL. I'm sure they can afford to keep him.
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                          • #28
                            What happened to this kid? One thing I liked about him in his early career was the constant improvement. Well, that shit came to a halt.

                            He's regressing. His foot speed and quickness have greatly diminished. I can't help wonder if last year's injury was some kind of career limiting deal. He can't move anywhere close to what he once did.

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                            • #29
                              Think he is due a 3 to 4 million dollar roster bonus in the next few months. His future as a Packer probably rides on his willingness to waive or severly reduce that.
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                              • #30
                                $4.123 MIL bonus if what I read was correct
                                Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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