Colledge - Worse than Whitticker?

[Patler]

Colledge had a horrendous season statistically, and may have worn out his welcome in GB. The Journal Sentinel reports that he allowed 40½ pressures, which was 10 more than the previous worst for a season by Will Whitticker in 2005. On top of that, he was the team leader in bad runs with 18½.

Worse than Will Whitticker, with 4 years experience? I would not be surprised if the Packers do little to retain him

[MJZiggy]

I had always been hoping for a light to come on there. Wanted Colledge to succeed, but enough already.

[Bretsky]

WOW; to be honest that was shocking to me. There was some DC love in here this year and while I've never been a fan of the guy I didn't think he had that crappy of a season. And he's commenting about not getting an extension

[denverYooper]

WOW; to be honest that was shocking to me. There was some DC love in here this year and while I've never been a fan of the guy I didn't think he had that crappy of a season. And he's commenting about not getting an extension

+1. I didn't think he had a great year by any stretch but I was surprised to hear it was so bad.

[Scott Campbell]

I met Korey Hall's mom at the airport on Monday. She and another woman (her sister) were flying their green and gold colors, so I started talking with them. They initially told me they had flown down from Boise to support the Boise State players on the team. When I said Daryn Colledge and Korey Hall, she seemed kind of excited that anyone would know who the backup fullback on the team was, and told me her son was Korey.

They were very nice and talked about how somber the locker room was after the game. I was kind of surprised they were let in there. It wouldn't surprise me at all if neither guy was on the team next year.

[denverYooper]

Re: Colledge - Worse than Whitticker?

Colledge had a horrendous season statistically, and may have worn out his welcome in GB. The Journal Sentinel reports that he allowed 40½ pressures, which was 10 more than the previous worst for a season by Will Whitticker in 2005. On top of that, he was the team leader in bad runs with 18½.

Worse than Will Whitticker, with 4 years experience? I would not be surprised if the Packers do little to retain him

I was curious to see if his stint at LT messed up his numbers PFF has:
5 sacks, 5 hits, and 10 pressures came from 179 snaps in 3 games at LT
5 sacks, 5 hits, and 12 pressures from 912 snaps in 13 games at LG

Where does the JSO get their numbers? From FO Premium DB?

Looking at PFF numbers, I'd guess you'd add sacks + hits + pressures to get the totals (42). Anyhow, looking at that, half of his pressures came from a horrendous 3 game stint at LT.

[esoxx]

I don't see DC back next year. He played so poorly that at one point he was called out by the coaches and told he needed to play better or would sit. His game improved slighty after that. Not good enough.

[Lurker64]

Are we counting Colledge's disastrous stint at tackle against him in terms of pressures and bad runs? I'm not sure that's really fair to do, as it's clear that he shouldn't be playing outside. I mean, if you put Greg Jennings in at left tackle, he'll give up a lot of pressures too. Doesn't mean he's not worth keeping.

I would be interested in seeing a breakdown of Colledge's bad plays by position. If he's awful at T but good at LG, he's probably worth keeping. If he's uniformly mediocre, we probably won't make much of an effort to resign him.

[pbmax]

Yes, those numbers count his disastrous stint at LT against him. McGinn mentions that in his article. Its never been entirely clear where he gets the numbers, but he does crunch his own numbers from the TV tapes.

He also has numbers in this column that describe what the Packers have counted. Those would seem to be his main two sources.

He is not worse that Whitticker. But you would figure he could be replaced without much effort. I think Lang could do it today. But he may be needed for RT.

[Patler]

Geeze, half the people on here the last two years excused Colledge for playing out of position at guard, insisting that his best position was tackle. Now others want to excuse him because he did play tackle. Truth be told, he hasn't been very good at either position.

JS recognized the time at LT. O-linemen move around when injuries happen. Spitz has played three positions, and played two this season. Lang has been all over, too, I believe playing three positions this year. Colledge is a four year vet who just doesn't seem to have the toughness required to be a consistent O-lineman, regardless of where he plays.

[pbmax]

Geeze, half the people on here the last two years excused Colledge for playing out of position at guard, insisting that his best position was tackle.

JS recognized the time at LT. O-linemen move around when injuries happen. Spitz has played three positions, and played two this season. Lang has been all over, too, I believe playing three positions this year. Colledge is a four year vet who just doesn't seem to have the toughness required to be a consistent O-lineman, regardless of where he plays.

I thought he was slated for a big year, but I have not thought he was a tackle in quite some time. But even if you adjust those numbers for the stint at tackle and then prorate, its not a pretty picture. He was a mess at times.

[denverYooper]

Yes, those numbers count his disastrous stint at LT against him. McGinn mentions that in his article. Its never been entirely clear where he gets the numbers, but he does crunch his own numbers from the TV tapes.

He also has numbers in this column that describe what the Packers have counted. Those would seem to be his main two sources.

He is not worse that Whitticker. But you would figure he could be replaced without much effort. I think Lang could do it today. But he may be needed for RT.

There is also the possibility that they play Spitz at LG next year if he's healthy. Wells had a pretty good year at center and EDS looks to be a decent C/G backup.

[Joemailman]

Whatever the stats may be, Colledge is maddeningly inconsistent. In the next year or two, the Packers will likely have a youngster at the crucial LT position. You'd like for that guy, whoever it is, to be lined up next to a solid player he can have confidence in. That's not Colledge.

[Administrator]

Are we counting Colledge's disastrous stint at tackle against him in terms of pressures and bad runs? I'm not sure that's really fair to do, as it's clear that he shouldn't be playing outside. I mean, if you put Greg Jennings in at left tackle, he'll give up a lot of pressures too. Doesn't mean he's not worth keeping.

I would be interested in seeing a breakdown of Colledge's bad plays by position. If he's awful at T but good at LG, he's probably worth keeping. If he's uniformly mediocre, we probably won't make much of an effort to resign him.

I don't understand this logic. Did Greg Jennings play left tackle in college? I thought he was a WR. Colledge has experience both in college and in the pros at LT. He should have played better than he did.

[Bretsky]

Geeze, half the people on here the last two years excused Colledge for playing out of position at guard, insisting that his best position was tackle.

JS recognized the time at LT. O-linemen move around when injuries happen. Spitz has played three positions, and played two this season. Lang has been all over, too, I believe playing three positions this year. Colledge is a four year vet who just doesn't seem to have the toughness required to be a consistent O-lineman, regardless of where he plays.

I thought he was slated for a big year, but I have not thought he was a tackle in quite some time. But even if you adjust those numbers for the stint at tackle and then prorate, its not a pretty picture. He was a mess at times.

I seem to remember a ton of DC homerism before the season.....I thought there was a thread annointing him as possibly our best OL. Dude has a ton of ability but something just doesn't seem to be there