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  • Ahman Green or Shaun Alexander?

    Shaun Alexander made the NFL All-Decade team. Personally, I would have taken Ahman Green over Shaun Alexander any day.

    As runners? - A toss up. Green had a better per carry average (4.5 to 4.3). Alexander had more TDs (88 to 60). Green had 9,205 yards; Alexander had 9,453 yards.

    As receivers? - Green by a lot in all categories. Receptions: 378 to 215; yards: 2883 to 1520; average: 7.6 to 7.1 ; TDs: 14 to 12. Green was a very good receiver, Alexander worked to be mediocre.

    As blockers? - Green by a landslide. Green in his prime was a very, very good blocker. Alexander was bad and was often out of the game in passing situations because of it.

    Ahman Green deserves more than he gets in attention for his career.

  • #2
    Agreed.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #3
      Great post, Patler. Two great backs, to be sure, but I give it to Green for his versatility and style of play.

      His blocking in particular really was an unappreciated aspect of his game. He would just destroy guys. And his ability to chip and then get out for a catch made him a lethal weapon.

      As to the TDs, well, we had a pretty good QB in those days who really liked to throw near the goal line.

      Favre rightfully commanded the attention, and as a consequence, I think Green was rarely thought about when it came to discussions of great backs. But there was no one in the last decade who could combine his flat out speed, power, and football player mentality.

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      • #4
        Ahman Green was one of my favorite players a few years back. He always ran angry and knew how to finish his runs.

        Regarding Alexander, I never understood how he put up the stats he did. He wasn't particularly fast, he didn't have moves, and he didn't run people over. Instead, he ran out of bounds to avoid contact. Did he just have great vision and never took bad steps? Sure it helped that left side of the line in front of him.
        Go PACK

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        • #5
          There wasn't a Jim Brown - Gayle Sayers - Walter Payton- Barry Sanders superstar in the past ten years. Is that because the NFL is a passing league now? I think Green is the best of the era.

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          • #6
            Green changed the teams he was on in GB dramatically....with the O-line that was built it seemed he was unstoppable for a couple of years. Just a great all around back. Alexander was kind of a three yards and a cloud of dust guy if I remember correctly....?
            C.H.U.D.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
              There wasn't a Jim Brown - Gayle Sayers - Walter Payton- Barry Sanders superstar in the past ten years. Is that because the NFL is a passing league now? I think Green is the best of the era.
              Adrian Peterson? He's gotta be the closest. He is the best back to enter the NFL in a long time.

              Green was out of this world good. Super fast and ultra big and strong.

              I never really was a fan of Alexander. He didn't have any unique talent that I'm aware of. Green had crazy good speed and strength and was so well rounded.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ICU81MI
                Adrian Peterson? He's gotta be the closest. He is the best back to enter the NFL in a long time.
                I think Peterson is still a bit of a mystery. Chris Johnson is better right now

                I don't think we'll ever see a great bruising back like Jim Brown or even Ironhead Heyward because the defenders are so much bigger, faster and stronger. Peterson is fast and beastly in the open field, he kills DBs and sometimes linebackers, but I'm surprised that he really doesn't break tackles that much around the line of scrimmage. Maybe Peterson is another Jim Brown playing against more physically gifted defenders.

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                • #9
                  I absolutely agree that Green was a much, much better back than Alexander. He had very similar numbers rushing and was a better receiver and blocker. Thus, he was much better.

                  I agree too with statements that have been made earlier that Green has been unfairly abused about the fumbling. Those occurred early in the season and abated after about a half dozen games, and once he started wearing those rubber sleeves it seemed no longer an issue at all. It's the perception of his fumle-itis that has really hurt him, I think.

                  Green was rock-solid in ball protection compared to Adrian Peterson, yet Peterson has not seem to have suffered as much criticism.

                  I think Green has been underappreciated.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #10
                    Fumbles: Total/lost

                    James...... 44/24
                    Lewis........ 39/25
                    Green........ 37/24
                    Alexander.. 31/27
                    Tomlinson. 27/12

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                    • #11
                      Alexander got it because he set a TD record and went to the Superbowl. If they had given the rock to Green on that fourth and one in Philly, it would be Green on the all decade team, because it would have likely been Green, running behind the U71 that would have propelled the Packers past Carolina and into the Superbowl - unless He who cannot be named in this thread throws a late pick.
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mraynrand
                        Alexander got it because he set a TD record and went to the Superbowl. If they had given the rock to Green on that fourth and one in Philly, it would be Green on the all decade team, because it would have likely been Green, running behind the U71 that would have propelled the Packers past Carolina and into the Superbowl - unless He who cannot be named in this thread throws a late pick.
                        Don't be silly. That would never happen.
                        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          There wasn't a Jim Brown - Gayle Sayers - Walter Payton- Barry Sanders superstar in the past ten years. Is that because the NFL is a passing league now? I think Green is the best of the era.
                          LT was pretty damn good. Maybe not quite in line with those guys, but still pretty ridiculous.

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                          • #14
                            I think LT has to be #1. He gained over 12,000 yards in the decade. he's obviously over now, but the guy did it all.

                            I'd say LT #1

                            2. Edge James

                            3. Green

                            4 Jamal Lewis second highest total yards in the decade and a 2000+ season. I know you NFC boys don't think much of him, but he was the man for a number of seasons.

                            5. Alexander. He is a really good person and I think it helps his voting appeal with the media/writers. Boone County High School in Florence KY is 8 miles from my house. The road that leads to it is Shaun Alexander Drive. I've been at a handful of Golf Outings and charity events where Shaun has been present and I've never met him. So if this was personally biased, he'd be #1 on the list.

                            I'm with the Boss. Shaun owes a lot of his personal success to Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KYPack
                              I think LT has to be #1. He gained over 12,000 yards in the decade. he's obviously over now, but the guy did it all.

                              I'd say LT #1

                              2. Edge James

                              3. Green

                              4 Jamal Lewis second highest total yards in the decade and a 2000+ season. I know you NFC boys don't think much of him, but he was the man for a number of seasons.

                              5. Alexander. He is a really good person and I think it helps his voting appeal with the media/writers. Boone County High School in Florence KY is 8 miles from my house. The road that leads to it is Shaun Alexander Drive. I've been at a handful of Golf Outings and charity events where Shaun has been present and I've never met him. So if this was personally biased, he'd be #1 on the list.

                              I'm with the Boss. Shaun owes a lot of his personal success to Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson.
                              Marshall Faulk came a little early for the All Decade Team, but he did some damage in the 2000's.

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