Peyton Manning

[Joemailman]

Although Favre has become known for the "killer mistakes" in the playoffs, Manning has had his own failures. 4 times in 22 playoff games, Favre's teams have lost where the offense produced fewer than 20 points. With Manning, it is 7 in 18. Maybe Favre's failures have been more dramatic, but Manning has been no better overall.

As for the regular season, Favre has averaged about 17 INT's per season. Manning 15. Not a huge difference.

It is likely both will be remembered as great quarterbacks who nonetheless had their postseason failures. Some will suggest that puts them behind guys like Starr, Montana, and perhaps Brady.

[Brandon494]

Don't understand all the hate on Manning, he has been nothing but a class act his whole career. Guess some just hate because they know he will break some of Favre's records.

[Packers4Ever]

Don't understand all the hate on Manning, he has been nothing but a class act his whole career. Guess some just hate because they know he will break some of Favre's records.

Brandon, I really don't think it's a case of 'hate on Manning' - as you said, he's been a class act for years. I think he was suffering a huge
disappointment over the loss of their game - understandably - and he simply had a hard time not showing it plus extremely upset with himself.
Not a good exhibit for the youngsters though, I agree. Hey you just can't win them all !

[GrnBay007]

Don't understand all the hate on Manning, he has been nothing but a class act his whole career. Guess some just hate because they know he will break some of Favre's records.

I don't hate Manning. But a "class act"? What year was it he threw his O-line under the bus during a post game interview? Don't remember, but many were cutting him down at that point.

Dang people, they are human!! Sometimes you are going to see a HUMAN, NON-PERFECT response from these people.

To say the hate on Manning is because he WILL break Favre's records is kinda funny. Maybe he will, maybe he won't....but is anyone really that much of a freak to hate on the guy because he might break those records? I think you are making more out of it then what's really there.

Records are made and some, if not all will be broken eventually. Whatever records are broken, and whoever does it gains my respect because it shows they are of the elite in whatever sport they participate in. Funny how some try so hard to ignore and discount what Favre has done in and for the NFL.

[Guiness]

I didn't see anything in the way of an explanation from Manning - I'm actually curious, what did he say?

[Gunakor]

Don't understand all the hate on Manning, he has been nothing but a class act his whole career. Guess some just hate because they know he will break some of Favre's records.

I don't hate Manning. But a "class act"? What year was it he threw his O-line under the bus during a post game interview? Don't remember, but many were cutting him down at that point.

My memory is a bit hazy, so I don't remember him cutting down his OL, but I do remember his profound comments about his "idiot kicker" a few years back when Vanderjagt was still a Colt. He's far from a class act IMO.

Does anybody here recall Manning ever publicly accepting responsibility for any of his mistakes the same way he publicly blames others for theirs?

[GrnBay007]

I do remember his profound comments about his "idiot kicker" a few years back when Vanderjagt was still a Colt. He's far from a class act IMO.

haha forgot about that one!!

[pbmax]

Well, the idiot kicker, whether he had a point or not, was talking out of school. So he had it coming. Or certainly should have expected it. The liquored up part was a particularly nice touch by Manning.

After a game against the Steelers, he said he wanted to be a good teammate so he could say much, but we had some protection problems. Had he said only one of either of those clauses, nobody would have blinked.

As for not shaking hands, he and Wayne both went immediately off the field. During his postgame presser, he said they were already setting up the podium and it was time for the Saints to have the field and celebrate. He said he would call both Brees and Payton.

[pbmax]

In this case, Manning need not make a face or throw someone under the bus, his GM has taken care of that:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/10/polian-says-offensive-line-was-outplayed-pretty-decisively/

[Brandon494]

Don't understand all the hate on Manning, he has been nothing but a class act his whole career. Guess some just hate because they know he will break some of Favre's records.

I don't hate Manning. But a "class act"? What year was it he threw his O-line under the bus during a post game interview? Don't remember, but many were cutting him down at that point.

My memory is a bit hazy, so I don't remember him cutting down his OL, but I do remember his profound comments about his "idiot kicker" a few years back when Vanderjagt was still a Colt. He's far from a class act IMO.

Does anybody here recall Manning ever publicly accepting responsibility for any of his mistakes the same way he publicly blames others for theirs?

Manning prob takes care of his O-line more than anyone in the league. I remember watching a pre SB clip about the Colts O-line and how closed they were to Manning. I did find this article mentioning a few things from the clip. http://www.nola.com/superbowl/index....fensive_l.html

Also do you even remember what that "idiot kicker" said? If you did you wouldnt be saying Manning is far from a class act because "idiot" was prob the nicest word you could have used there. How the hell is a kicker going to call one of the greastest QBs to ever play the game soft?

[Gunakor]

Don't understand all the hate on Manning, he has been nothing but a class act his whole career. Guess some just hate because they know he will break some of Favre's records.

I don't hate Manning. But a "class act"? What year was it he threw his O-line under the bus during a post game interview? Don't remember, but many were cutting him down at that point.

My memory is a bit hazy, so I don't remember him cutting down his OL, but I do remember his profound comments about his "idiot kicker" a few years back when Vanderjagt was still a Colt. He's far from a class act IMO.

Does anybody here recall Manning ever publicly accepting responsibility for any of his mistakes the same way he publicly blames others for theirs?

Manning prob takes care of his O-line more than anyone in the league. I remember watching a pre SB clip about the Colts O-line and how closed they were to Manning. I did find this article mentioning a few things from the clip. http://www.nola.com/superbowl/index....fensive_l.html

Also do you even remember what that "idiot kicker" said? If you did you wouldnt be saying Manning is far from a class act because "idiot" was prob the nicest word you could have used there. How the hell is a kicker going to call one of the greastest QBs to ever play the game soft?

A classy person would have said nothing in retort at all.

[Guiness]

Well, I will say that I've had a beer or two with the 'idiot kicker' And that a)he's a good guy. and b) He seems to be widely panned, but before anyone does that they should look into his road to the league and realize the guy paid his dues, and was a pretty good player.

[Brandon494]

Don't understand all the hate on Manning, he has been nothing but a class act his whole career. Guess some just hate because they know he will break some of Favre's records.

I don't hate Manning. But a "class act"? What year was it he threw his O-line under the bus during a post game interview? Don't remember, but many were cutting him down at that point.

My memory is a bit hazy, so I don't remember him cutting down his OL, but I do remember his profound comments about his "idiot kicker" a few years back when Vanderjagt was still a Colt. He's far from a class act IMO.

Does anybody here recall Manning ever publicly accepting responsibility for any of his mistakes the same way he publicly blames others for theirs?

Manning prob takes care of his O-line more than anyone in the league. I remember watching a pre SB clip about the Colts O-line and how closed they were to Manning. I did find this article mentioning a few things from the clip. http://www.nola.com/superbowl/index....fensive_l.html

Also do you even remember what that "idiot kicker" said? If you did you wouldnt be saying Manning is far from a class act because "idiot" was prob the nicest word you could have used there. How the hell is a kicker going to call one of the greastest QBs to ever play the game soft?

A classy person would have said nothing in retort at all.

So he is a classless player because his kicker got drunk and called him out and Manning responded by calling him an idiot. Wow what a jackass

[pbmax]

No, the kicker is panned because he spoke out about both his coach and teammates in trying to explain why they had had repeated playoff failures. He said nothing that thousands of other people haven't said (tightened up, choked, something along those lines) but it is different when a teammate does it.

Vanderjagt also suffered because he a) was a kicker and is not viewed the same as an offensive lineman or LB, b) not long after this incident he was hurt and started to have trouble kicking and c) he did not seem to realize that a player saying these things publicly was going to come back and bite him in the butt. It was predictable.

None of that proves that he really is an "idiot", or that he was "drunk" (I think it was a radio interview) or that he is a bad guy. But he took a huge step to the forefront when he made his statement publicly and got blasted by the fallout. Probably not what he intended.

[Scott Campbell]

Don't understand all the hate on Manning, he has been nothing but a class act his whole career. Guess some just hate because they know he will break some of Favre's records.

I don't hate Manning. But a "class act"? What year was it he threw his O-line under the bus during a post game interview? Don't remember, but many were cutting him down at that point.

My memory is a bit hazy, so I don't remember him cutting down his OL, but I do remember his profound comments about his "idiot kicker" a few years back when Vanderjagt was still a Colt. He's far from a class act IMO.

Does anybody here recall Manning ever publicly accepting responsibility for any of his mistakes the same way he publicly blames others for theirs?

Manning prob takes care of his O-line more than anyone in the league. I remember watching a pre SB clip about the Colts O-line and how closed they were to Manning. I did find this article mentioning a few things from the clip. http://www.nola.com/superbowl/index....fensive_l.html

Also do you even remember what that "idiot kicker" said? If you did you wouldnt be saying Manning is far from a class act because "idiot" was prob the nicest word you could have used there. How the hell is a kicker going to call one of the greastest QBs to ever play the game soft?

A classy person would have said nothing in retort at all.

So would a doormat. Vanderwhatchamacallit was in idiot kicker. Peyton was right to speak up and put that guy in his place.