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    Agent: Packers won't ask Hawk to take pay cut

    From PFT.COM :
    The questions started soon after the Packers signed linebacker Brandon Chillar to a long-term contract. Could A.J. Hawk, no longer a three-down player, be on the way out?

    The answer for 2010 will be no according to Hawk's agent.

    "They're not going to ask [for a pay cut]," Mike McCartney told the Green Bay Press-Gazette Monday. "They think A.J. is a very important part of their football team. I have full confidence that A.J. is going to have a big year next year, and I think they have the same kind of confidence."

    Hawk is due $4.6 million next season, and he often sits on passing downs for Chillar. The team also have a promising backup in Desmond Bishop.

    The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel believes Hawk could lose his starting job, but NFL teams rarely give up players that can help them win. Hawk is still a solid player for them, if overpaid.

    So while the Packers expected Hawk to provide more than quality depth, it looks like he'll remain in Green Bay for at least one more season.
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  • #2
    or get traded to SD.

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    • #3
      Maybe Hawk is better suited as an OLB?

      Draft a guy like Brandon Spikes to play ILB. Let Brad Jones and Hawk fight it out? (Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.)
      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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      • #4
        Hawk struggles with coverage and is not a good pass rusher, moving him to OLB is not the answer.

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        • #5
          Hawk may not be what was expected when he was drafted, but he is an important part of this defense, especially against the run. The Packers have a chance to go to the Super Bowl next year, and Hawk should and will be a part of that. The guy who may not be here is Poppinga, especially if Kampman is signed.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Brandon494
            Hawk struggles with coverage and is not a good pass rusher, moving him to OLB is not the answer.
            Yeah...it takes a special athlete to play LB and be good in pass coverage. It almost makes you wonder why not simply play an overgrown safety at LB, like Rouse or Taylor Mays.

            What's Hawk's problem rushing the passer? It seems to me it just doesn't do it too often. Maybe taking a better angle would help. Didn't he play OLB in college?
            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
              Originally posted by Brandon494
              Hawk struggles with coverage and is not a good pass rusher, moving him to OLB is not the answer.
              Yeah...it takes a special athlete to play LB and be good in pass coverage. It almost makes you wonder why not simply play an overgrown safety at LB, like Rouse or Taylor Mays.

              What's Hawk's problem rushing the passer? It seems to me it just doesn't do it too often. Maybe taking a better angle would help. Didn't he play OLB in college?
              I have thought about this as well. IF covering tight ends and running backs in short zones is so important in the 3-4 for inside guys, why not use a big safety in this spot and have him put on a few pounds? Is the weight difference between a Hawk and a Rouse or Mays that different? Wouldn't they be able to handle the offensive line, is that it? I'm not sure about why you wouldn't want a faster, quicker guy inside.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                If I were Hawk I would not accept a pay cut. He signed the contract they offered fair and square.

                Ask him and he'll want to play every snap. Now whether he should be out there as a starter is a separate question for the coaches.

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                • #9
                  If they had to cut someone else because of his salary, then this might be a relevant question. As it stands, you can make an good argument that he may be overpaid, but cutting his pay or getting rid of him doesn't make the team any better.

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                  • #10
                    Will be his last year in GB, just a player who has never lived up to what many thought he could develop into.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by b bulldog
                      Will be his last year in GB, just a player who has never lived up to what many thought he could develop into.
                      Still stand by what I said back in 2006, we should have drafted V Davis over Hawk.

                      ....now waiting for the "He didn't want to play in GB" comments.

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                      • #12
                        Given that Finley may turn out to be as good as Davis, I don't really regret not taking Davis. The guy I was interested in back in 2006 who in hindsight I wish TT had taken was Haloti Ngata.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Brandon494
                          Originally posted by b bulldog
                          Will be his last year in GB, just a player who has never lived up to what many thought he could develop into.
                          Still stand by what I said back in 2006, we should have drafted V Davis over Hawk.

                          ....now waiting for the "He didn't want to play in GB" comments.
                          How about an "I think I am happier with Jermichael Finley" comment instead?
                          I think Finley can be just as good. Heck, projected over 16 games Finley already was just as good in 2009. Plus, he is 3 years younger.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Patler
                            Originally posted by Brandon494
                            Originally posted by b bulldog
                            Will be his last year in GB, just a player who has never lived up to what many thought he could develop into.
                            Still stand by what I said back in 2006, we should have drafted V Davis over Hawk.

                            ....now waiting for the "He didn't want to play in GB" comments.
                            How about an "I think I am happier with Jermichael Finley" comment instead?
                            I think Finley can be just as good. Heck, projected over 16 games Finley already was just as good in 2009. Plus, he is 3 years younger.
                            Amen.

                            I remember the big draft debate here at the time was: Do we pick Hawk or Mario Williams? Well, as the draft drew closer Mario rose to the top of the board and solved that problem.

                            Same thing will happen this year with guys like Spiller.

                            So far TT's done better than I could have in the draft.
                            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joemailman
                              Given that Finley may turn out to be as good as Davis, I don't really regret not taking Davis. The guy I was interested in back in 2006 who in hindsight I wish TT had taken was Haloti Ngata.
                              Ngata is a guy I thought they might be interested in as well. I thought all the Hawk talk might have been a smokescreen for their real intentions, but I was not disappointed in the pick of Hawk. I am disappointed in his performance, however.

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