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  • #46
    Originally posted by Patler
    Originally posted by gbgary
    ...it's just when there's an impact guy that you really want, a difference maker, don't let something like money get in the way. don't take no for an answer.
    I can not agree with that. Money is always a factor in the purchase of anything, including the purchase of a free agent's services. For a good GM, how badly he wants a player SHOULD depend in part at least on how much that player will cost.
    in general yes...but Packers specific, being so far under the cap, it shouldn't be a concern.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by gbgary
      in general yes...but Packers specific, being so far under the cap, it shouldn't be a concern.
      The idea held by some, that the Packers have been so far under the cap that money was no concern, is not realistic, in my opinion. Could they have signed an expensive FA or two? Sure, they could have. But it also would have impacted other long term things they have done, like extending their own players.

      That's why there is always a cost/benefit evaluation when considering free agents. TT seemed willing to sign a few, at certain prices, but not beyond his level.

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      • #48
        Let's say your goal is win a better home and gardens "Best Home of the Month under $5,000". Let's say Better Homes and Gardens goes on month after month and to win, you have to prove everything you bought fit under the cap.


        Let's say you needed a sofa, love seat, two end tables, a TV, a washer, Dryer, Kitchen table and some decorations.

        You can't go out and get probowl everything, clearly 5,000 doesn't by the best. You have a budget and to win, you're going to have to be better than the stiff competition. You're going to have to get some bang for your buck.


        You can take the approach that you're going to go out right now and spend every penny today for your best shot to win this months award. But what are the odds that the best values for all of the items you need are available right now? Odds are slim and your competition might have been patiently building their home for several months, getting value after value. You on the other hand, bought some new appliences and furniture, but then had to go to garage sales for your End tables and kitchen table because you ran out of dough.

        Sure, you gave yourself the best shot for that one month, but probably you're going to lsoe to someone who's been making good decisions for longer, someone who got better things for less money and has a champion.

        Ted took the other approach, he did research for each item and continues to buy them on sale and when it's a buyers market.



        This isn't about being the best you can be today unless the best you can be today is the champ. Ted's approach isn't the quick approach, but it's the high ceiling, championship approach.

        Like Patler said, there is an opportunity cost for every decision made. Spend here, take away from there. If you can get more for your money, you can afford more talent. By being patient diligent in his work, Ted has slowly built this core to something pretty formidable and still has a ton of money left to put it over the top. That doesn't happen in one year. This situation took 5 years to get to.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #49
          "it's just when there's an impact guy that you really want, a difference maker, don't let something like money get in the way. don't take no for an answer."

          gbgary = Dan Snyder
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Fritz
            "it's just when there's an impact guy that you really want, a difference maker, don't let something like money get in the way. don't take no for an answer."

            gbgary = Dan Snyder
            he signs everyone. i'm talking one guy.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by gbgary
              Originally posted by Fritz
              "it's just when there's an impact guy that you really want, a difference maker, don't let something like money get in the way. don't take no for an answer."

              gbgary = Dan Snyder
              he signs everyone. i'm talking one guy.
              Honestly, nobody Snyder signs makes an impact anyway.
              Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Gunakor
                Originally posted by gbgary
                Originally posted by Fritz
                "it's just when there's an impact guy that you really want, a difference maker, don't let something like money get in the way. don't take no for an answer."

                gbgary = Dan Snyder
                he signs everyone. i'm talking one guy.
                Honestly, nobody Snyder signs makes an impact anyway.
                Yeah. Where are all the people who were clamoring for Haynesworth?
                No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                • #53
                  We need a clamoring emoticon.

                  I've clamored a few times myself. Usually over coaches.

                  I didn't clamor for Ryan Pickett or Brandon Chillar.

                  I did clamor for the player that spurned us and we ended up signing Woodson. Was that LaVar Arrington?

                  TT is better off not listening to the clamor.
                  [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by swede
                    We need a clamoring emoticon.

                    I've clamored a few times myself. Usually over coaches.

                    I didn't clamor for Ryan Pickett or Brandon Chillar.

                    I did clamor for the player that spurned us and we ended up signing Woodson. Was that LaVar Arrington?

                    TT is better off not listening to the clamor.
                    Yes it was LaVar Arrington.

                    Also look at the Skins, they try to buy a championship each offseason and they get the same results. Signing FAs each season does not guarntee success. TT is doing it the right way, thru the draft and building team chemistry. Yes we have a few holes but what team doesnt? All I know is we have the youngest team in the league and the future looks very bright in Green Bay.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by gbgary
                      Originally posted by Fritz
                      "it's just when there's an impact guy that you really want, a difference maker, don't let something like money get in the way. don't take no for an answer."

                      gbgary = Dan Snyder
                      he signs everyone. i'm talking one guy.
                      But he often signs the "one guy" people clamor for - Albert Haynesworth being the best example of a big name, an "impact guy...a difference maker."
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Fritz
                        Originally posted by gbgary
                        Originally posted by Fritz
                        "it's just when there's an impact guy that you really want, a difference maker, don't let something like money get in the way. don't take no for an answer."

                        gbgary = Dan Snyder
                        he signs everyone. i'm talking one guy.
                        But he often signs the "one guy" people clamor for - Albert Haynesworth being the best example of a big name, an "impact guy...a difference maker."

                        He signed a safety a few years back that everybody thought was the bomb, and he bombed. But I can't remember the guys name right now.

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                        • #57
                          Actually, I have read that Danny has been flat out restrained for him in the two seasons prior to Haynesworth. So that eruption was bound to happen. And he has built a pretty good defense and a solid secondary. I think at least one CB is a FA back there. He's learning. Slowly, like Jerry did.

                          Now he just needs Shanahan to lay off the tanning bed long enough to reverse his prior performance as GM in Denver.

                          I second the call for a clamoring emoticon. We need more clamoring. Clamoring is essential to the fabric of a free society. Thompson ignores this at his peril.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                            He signed a safety a few years back that everybody thought was the bomb, and he bombed. But I can't remember the guys name right now.
                            Adam Archuletta, who then was traded to da Bears and didn't play a whole lot better over there. Nice wife, though.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by gbgary
                              Originally posted by Patler
                              Originally posted by gbgary
                              ...it's just when there's an impact guy that you really want, a difference maker, don't let something like money get in the way. don't take no for an answer.
                              I can not agree with that. Money is always a factor in the purchase of anything, including the purchase of a free agent's services. For a good GM, how badly he wants a player SHOULD depend in part at least on how much that player will cost.
                              in general yes...but Packers specific, being so far under the cap, it shouldn't be a concern.
                              Its not quite that simple. TT especially, has come out and said this. He is very aware of his locker room. He takes into consideration how a guys salary will upset the pecking order , if you will. Also, I am certain while he has some give and take in his approach, he only has so much money allocated at various positions and a few guys that he'll pay no matter what, like Rodgers. If a FA's looking for dough way outside of those limits, he is probably going to look elsewhere.
                              Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by MJZiggy
                                Why does that poll look like it's flipping me off????
                                now THAT'S funny!!

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