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[Bretsky]

I think Mays is incredible as an athlete
He's intelligent enough to play safety

What's concerning is what we saw with Rouse. He's lights out straight forward and backward. But he doesn't seem to be nearly as effecitive shifting/moving side to side...which you need to cover guys.

If there was a comparison I can think of, he kind of reminds me of Thomas Davis....but more talented. Davis was a safety out of Georgia and Carolina didn't really know for sure where to play him at. He ended up being a pretty good LB.

I'm in the I trust TT mojo on Mays. I would not be elated but not unhappy with the pick either. We'd have to trust our defensive coaches to utilize him and develop him but the upside is pretty high.

If he was a project on the OL I would not want him. I trust our defensive coaches ability to develop talent a lot more than I do the offensive coaches...with the exception of QB. We have IMO one of the best QB coaches in the NFL and then MM is stellar there as well.

[pbmax]

Everyone probably is aware of this link, but since I just found it:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/03/11/pro.days.draft.news.tracker/index.html

Basically, covers all the pro day sites, participants and results. Not sure on sources, so buyer/reader beware.

[pbmax]

A report that Mike Tomlin does not like Mays:

Forget the safety from Southern California, Taylor Mays. Mike Tomlin does not like him, not high in the draft anyway. He put up good numbers at the combine, but not good performances during last season. Remember what Deion Sanders said about Mays? He's right on as far as the Steelers are concerned. Here is a safety Tomlin does like: Kam Chancellor of Virginia Tech, a big man at 6-3, 231. He's not a first-rounder, but then the Steelers no longer have an interest in drafting a safety on the first round.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10094...#ixzz0kFQ3wcb7

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10094...d=steelers.xml

[Brandon494]

Kam Chancellor is the exact same player as Mays expect he doesn't run a 4.3 40 time. I watch every single VT game and go to about 3-4 games a year and Chancellor is very similiar to Aaron Rouse.

[ThunderDan]

Bulger relased by the Rams. Another 6 year $60+ million contract wacked by the owners. The players have to be getting a little worried as their overall salary pool is shrinking at an alarming rate.

[wist43]

This is what scares me about Taylor Mays. The two players seem similar in skills and potential. And drawbacks.

It's tough to tell what kind of mental make up a guy has... sometimes it's obvious if the guy is an overt head case - but, sometimes a guy can have all the physical ability in the world, but simply not have the drive or mental wherewithal to accel and achieve.

You have to look these kids in the eye and sit down and talk to them for a while... and even then they can con ya.

Then again, if you're determined to see what you want to see, you're going to find reasons to like the guy and draft him anyway.

[packers11]

Updating a previous item, NFL.com's Jason LaCanfora reports league sources believe the Titans would be interested in bringing back Albert Haynesworth "at the right price."

The key to any Haynesworth deal is money. The Skins just paid him a $21M bonus, and they'll want any trade partner to kick back a good portion of that loot. Per LaCanfora, Haynesworth has a "strained relationship" with many teammates, and Mike Shanahan wants to deal him before the draft to improve the culture at Redskins Park. The Skins are also "strongly interested" in an Adam Carriker/Haynesworth swap with St. Louis. The Washington Post adds the Lions, Bucs, and Jags as possible destinations. Apr. 6 - 4:41 pm et

Source: NFL.com

can you say FREE AGENT BUST?!

[red]

Updating a previous item, NFL.com's Jason LaCanfora reports league sources believe the Titans would be interested in bringing back Albert Haynesworth "at the right price."

The key to any Haynesworth deal is money. The Skins just paid him a $21M bonus, and they'll want any trade partner to kick back a good portion of that loot. Per LaCanfora, Haynesworth has a "strained relationship" with many teammates, and Mike Shanahan wants to deal him before the draft to improve the culture at Redskins Park. The Skins are also "strongly interested" in an Adam Carriker/Haynesworth swap with St. Louis. The Washington Post adds the Lions, Bucs, and Jags as possible destinations. Apr. 6 - 4:41 pm et

Source: NFL.com

can you say FREE AGENT BUST?!

sounds like the skins are desperate to dump the slug

[OS PA]

Updating a previous item, NFL.com's Jason LaCanfora reports league sources believe the Titans would be interested in bringing back Albert Haynesworth "at the right price."

The key to any Haynesworth deal is money. The Skins just paid him a $21M bonus, and they'll want any trade partner to kick back a good portion of that loot. Per LaCanfora, Haynesworth has a "strained relationship" with many teammates, and Mike Shanahan wants to deal him before the draft to improve the culture at Redskins Park. The Skins are also "strongly interested" in an Adam Carriker/Haynesworth swap with St. Louis. The Washington Post adds the Lions, Bucs, and Jags as possible destinations. Apr. 6 - 4:41 pm et

Source: NFL.com

can you say FREE AGENT BUST?!

sounds like the skins are desperate to dump the slug

Lets just hope the slug doesn't get dumped to the Lions. They'd have 2/4ths of the line that created Haynesworth's contract two years ago and the same coach. I could definitely see them pulling the trigger on this trade and then drafting Okung with the 2nd pick. For any of you know-it-alls, can a team trade money as compensation without trading a player or a draft pick? The new Lion's GM values his draft picks and the Ford's have pretty deep pockets. It appears that the Skins are looking to get back some of the $21 million they paid fat Albert last week.

I personally think they're building a decent team over there to our East. Stafford, Megatron, and Pettigrew could be a scary trio if they can keep Stafford upright and find a few DBs in the draft.

[pbmax]

Draft Value By Position and Selection from Pro Football References Blog

When you do a cost benefit analysis of drafting any player, you have to consider what will be available to you when you pick next if you are looking to fill needs. And while successful teams do not draft on need alone, they would be ill served to ignore it entirely.

Here is a chart of the median draft selection sorted by position. This is the pick where the player value is equal (considering their pro careers only) for all players at that position before and after the pick. This could be considered the tipping point, where finding the starting gem will be harder to do. It also must reflect, to some degree, the importance that teams place on the positions.

I am stunned that ILB are this high and DTs are so low. A little surprised by WRs being the fifth highest.

pos     pick
QB      24
ILB     40
CB      45
T       50
WR      54
RB      55
DE      57
TE      69
OLB     71
DT      77
S       84
G       108
C       173

[ThunderDan]

PB-

Those numbers don't seem right. You figure there are 7 rounds at 32 players each plus compensatory picks. That makes it around 240 picks per year. If there are 240 picks the average player should go 120th. I think your numbers would average out to a lot lower considering only one position has a higher average than 120. Of course if teams draft 3 C for every other position it might average out correctly.

[ThunderDan]

I guess I missed the average value part.

[Bretsky]

Graham makes two visits
The News
Brandon Graham (Michigan) visited the Patriots and Falcons, according to Scout.com.
Our View
The defensive end prospect helped raise his draft stock with a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. He is projected to go in the first-round, and both Atlanta and New England could use help at the position.


I've kind of been thinking all along the genius from NE will nab Graham ahead of us

[Brandon494]

Graham makes two visits
The News
Brandon Graham (Michigan) visited the Patriots and Falcons, according to Scout.com.
Our View
The defensive end prospect helped raise his draft stock with a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. He is projected to go in the first-round, and both Atlanta and New England could use help at the position.


I've kind of been thinking all along the genius from NE will nab Graham ahead of us

I hope so, I question his ability to play LB in the 3-4. I believe the Falcons will end up taking him though.

[Joemailman]

Graham makes two visits
The News
Brandon Graham (Michigan) visited the Patriots and Falcons, according to Scout.com.
Our View
The defensive end prospect helped raise his draft stock with a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. He is projected to go in the first-round, and both Atlanta and New England could use help at the position.


I've kind of been thinking all along the genius from NE will nab Graham ahead of us

New England took him in the Packerrats 2010 Mock Draft, so you know it will happen.