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  • #31
    Originally posted by Brandon494
    So you guys still think we aren't going to select a OT with our 1st round pick?
    No I could see it happening, but there's a possibility of it not happening too. You never know with TT.

    I think TT will grab a tackle without a doubt if a good one is available ,but he won't reach for one if the top ones are gone.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by steve823
      Originally posted by Brandon494
      So you guys still think we aren't going to select a OT with our 1st round pick?
      No I could see it happening, but there's a possibility of it not happening too. You never know with TT.

      I think TT will grab a tackle without a doubt if a good one is available ,but he won't reach for one if the top ones are gone.
      he is going QB Tim Tebow at 23rd hehe
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Brandon494
        So you guys still think we aren't going to select a OT with our 1st round pick?
        we aren't going to reach for a guy that TT doesn't think is worth that 1st

        the problem with letting both clifton and tausch walk is that we only have one possible starting tackle on our roster (lang)

        we either have to draft one and start him right away

        trade for one

        or pick up a free agent, and i don't see an option out on the market

        so unless we get a special guy at 23, we need to trade for a starter, or else its going to be an ugly season (if we lets mark and chad both walk)

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        • #34
          There's a chance that he he may trade up for a Tackle. With the addition of Peppers, plus Clifton probably leaving we are in desperate need of one. Last year was a good example of drafting impact players instead of trading down like he has in the past.

          The problem is that this draft is so deep so trading up wouldn't be too smart.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by red
            Originally posted by Brandon494
            So you guys still think we aren't going to select a OT with our 1st round pick?
            we aren't going to reach for a guy that TT doesn't think is worth that 1st

            the problem with letting both clifton and tausch walk is that we only have one possible starting tackle on our roster (lang)

            we either have to draft one and start him right away

            trade for one

            or pick up a free agent, and i don't see an option out on the market

            so unless we get a special guy at 23, we need to trade for a starter, or else its going to be an ugly season (if we lets mark and chad both walk)
            You keep saying TT isnt going to reach for a guy that isnt worth a 1st round pick. This draft is loaded with OT talent, I ranked 6 OT prospects who are worth a 1st round pick.

            Clifton is gone but I see Taushcer coming back. So we'll end up drafting a OT with the #23 pick to play LT, Taushcer will start at RT, and Lang will backup both tackle spots.

            It will come down to Brian Bulaga, Bruce Campbell, or Charles Brown I believe or we might trade down and pick up Jason Fox later on.

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            • #36
              Bulaga will most likely be long gone by then. Hopefully qbs and other positions rise because then we have a better chance of landing a better tackle.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Brandon494
                Originally posted by red
                Originally posted by Brandon494
                So you guys still think we aren't going to select a OT with our 1st round pick?
                we aren't going to reach for a guy that TT doesn't think is worth that 1st

                the problem with letting both clifton and tausch walk is that we only have one possible starting tackle on our roster (lang)

                we either have to draft one and start him right away

                trade for one

                or pick up a free agent, and i don't see an option out on the market

                so unless we get a special guy at 23, we need to trade for a starter, or else its going to be an ugly season (if we lets mark and chad both walk)
                You keep saying TT isnt going to reach for a guy that isnt worth a 1st round pick. This draft is loaded with OT talent, I ranked 6 OT prospects who are worth a 1st round pick.

                Clifton is gone but I see Taushcer coming back. So we'll end up drafting a OT with the #23 pick to play LT, Taushcer will start at RT, and Lang will backup both tackle spots.

                It will come down to Brian Bulaga, Bruce Campbell, or Charles Brown I believe or we might trade down and pick up Jason Fox later on.
                yeah you rank 6, i rank 5, tt might rank 2 or 3 or 10

                theres some talk that teams have only a 4th round grade on bruce campbell because when you actually watch him play, he's just not that good. the guy from rutgers is a fat lazy ass who hates working out.

                some think charles brown is just way too damn small and doesn't try hard enough

                just because our mock drafts and magazines say they like a guy doesn't mean the guys that really make the decisions feel the same way.

                i', convinced 95% of the mock drafts out there are just based on other mock drafts. very few of those people actually know what they're doing

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by red
                  Originally posted by Brandon494
                  Originally posted by red
                  Originally posted by Brandon494
                  So you guys still think we aren't going to select a OT with our 1st round pick?
                  we aren't going to reach for a guy that TT doesn't think is worth that 1st

                  the problem with letting both clifton and tausch walk is that we only have one possible starting tackle on our roster (lang)

                  we either have to draft one and start him right away

                  trade for one

                  or pick up a free agent, and i don't see an option out on the market

                  so unless we get a special guy at 23, we need to trade for a starter, or else its going to be an ugly season (if we lets mark and chad both walk)
                  You keep saying TT isnt going to reach for a guy that isnt worth a 1st round pick. This draft is loaded with OT talent, I ranked 6 OT prospects who are worth a 1st round pick.

                  Clifton is gone but I see Taushcer coming back. So we'll end up drafting a OT with the #23 pick to play LT, Taushcer will start at RT, and Lang will backup both tackle spots.

                  It will come down to Brian Bulaga, Bruce Campbell, or Charles Brown I believe or we might trade down and pick up Jason Fox later on.
                  yeah you rank 6, i rank 5, tt might rank 2 or 3 or 10

                  theres some talk that teams have only a 4th round grade on bruce campbell because when you actually watch him play, he's just not that good. the guy from rutgers is a fat lazy ass who hates working out.

                  some think charles brown is just way too damn small and doesn't try hard enough

                  just because our mock drafts and magazines say they like a guy doesn't mean the guys that really make the decisions feel the same way.

                  i', convinced 95% of the mock drafts out there are just based on other mock drafts. very few of those people actually know what they're doing
                  I don't go by mock drafts, I'm a HUGE college football fan and actually know what Im talking about.

                  Honestly I don't want Bruce Campbell but its no way he drops out of the 1st round. He is a freak of athlete but not a football player. With the right OL coach he could become a star, too bad we don't have a OL coach who could do that.

                  Charles Brown is a former TE who is a good pass blocker and a hard worker but needs to improve his strength and run blocking, but its not like Clifton was that great of a run blocker. Also Brown is a good fit in the zone blocking scheme.

                  "That guy from Rutgers" Anthony Davis is pretty much the same player as Andre Smith and don't see him dropping to us.

                  Brian Bulaga is the guy I really want and I don't think its out of the question that he might drop a few spots. Right now I don't think he is a top 15 pick but could go anywhere right after that.

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                  • #39
                    It's also worth considering that certain low tenders are simply an invitation to negotiate. Denver isn't necessarily looking for a 2009 first round pick for Brandon Marshall (though they'd happily take one), the first round tender is just a "hey, he's available".

                    When it comes to a guy like Gaither, Thompson could easily work out a deal that involves a player and/or a future draft pick. So, we could give up James Jones and a 2011 third for Gaither, say (I have no idea if this is fair, I just want to illustrate that guys are available for prices other than their tenders.)
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Brandon494
                      Originally posted by red
                      Originally posted by Brandon494
                      Originally posted by red
                      Originally posted by Brandon494
                      So you guys still think we aren't going to select a OT with our 1st round pick?
                      we aren't going to reach for a guy that TT doesn't think is worth that 1st

                      the problem with letting both clifton and tausch walk is that we only have one possible starting tackle on our roster (lang)

                      we either have to draft one and start him right away

                      trade for one

                      or pick up a free agent, and i don't see an option out on the market

                      so unless we get a special guy at 23, we need to trade for a starter, or else its going to be an ugly season (if we lets mark and chad both walk)
                      You keep saying TT isnt going to reach for a guy that isnt worth a 1st round pick. This draft is loaded with OT talent, I ranked 6 OT prospects who are worth a 1st round pick.

                      Clifton is gone but I see Taushcer coming back. So we'll end up drafting a OT with the #23 pick to play LT, Taushcer will start at RT, and Lang will backup both tackle spots.

                      It will come down to Brian Bulaga, Bruce Campbell, or Charles Brown I believe or we might trade down and pick up Jason Fox later on.
                      yeah you rank 6, i rank 5, tt might rank 2 or 3 or 10

                      theres some talk that teams have only a 4th round grade on bruce campbell because when you actually watch him play, he's just not that good. the guy from rutgers is a fat lazy ass who hates working out.

                      some think charles brown is just way too damn small and doesn't try hard enough

                      just because our mock drafts and magazines say they like a guy doesn't mean the guys that really make the decisions feel the same way.

                      i', convinced 95% of the mock drafts out there are just based on other mock drafts. very few of those people actually know what they're doing
                      I don't go by mock drafts, I'm a HUGE college football fan and actually know what Im talking about.

                      Honestly I don't want Bruce Campbell but its no way he drops out of the 1st round. He is a freak of athlete but not a football player. With the right OL coach he could become a star, too bad we don't have a OL coach who could do that.

                      Charles Brown is a former TE who is a good pass blocker and a hard worker but needs to improve his strength and run blocking, but its not like Clifton was that great of a run blocker. Also Brown is a good fit in the zone blocking scheme.

                      "That guy from Rutgers" Anthony Davis is pretty much the same player as Andre Smith and don't see him dropping to us.

                      Brian Bulaga is the guy I really want and I don't think its out of the question that he might drop a few spots. Right now I don't think he is a top 15 pick but could go anywhere right after that.
                      so because you're a fan you watched every single snap of every game of every prospect in this years draft. paying attention to every player on the field for that snap and evaluating them all

                      correct?

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                      • #41
                        I'm a big fan of college football, and I've watched a lot of games with these guys, and I follow the draft very closely but I don't have any idea what's going to happen in April. I can only go on "what would make sense" and as we all know, that's not necessarily what's going to happen.

                        It's consistently pretty impossible to predict picks in the 20s in the NFL draft.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by red
                          Originally posted by Brandon494
                          Originally posted by red
                          Originally posted by Brandon494
                          Originally posted by red
                          Originally posted by Brandon494
                          So you guys still think we aren't going to select a OT with our 1st round pick?
                          we aren't going to reach for a guy that TT doesn't think is worth that 1st

                          the problem with letting both clifton and tausch walk is that we only have one possible starting tackle on our roster (lang)

                          we either have to draft one and start him right away

                          trade for one

                          or pick up a free agent, and i don't see an option out on the market

                          so unless we get a special guy at 23, we need to trade for a starter, or else its going to be an ugly season (if we lets mark and chad both walk)
                          You keep saying TT isnt going to reach for a guy that isnt worth a 1st round pick. This draft is loaded with OT talent, I ranked 6 OT prospects who are worth a 1st round pick.

                          Clifton is gone but I see Taushcer coming back. So we'll end up drafting a OT with the #23 pick to play LT, Taushcer will start at RT, and Lang will backup both tackle spots.

                          It will come down to Brian Bulaga, Bruce Campbell, or Charles Brown I believe or we might trade down and pick up Jason Fox later on.
                          yeah you rank 6, i rank 5, tt might rank 2 or 3 or 10

                          theres some talk that teams have only a 4th round grade on bruce campbell because when you actually watch him play, he's just not that good. the guy from rutgers is a fat lazy ass who hates working out.

                          some think charles brown is just way too damn small and doesn't try hard enough

                          just because our mock drafts and magazines say they like a guy doesn't mean the guys that really make the decisions feel the same way.

                          i', convinced 95% of the mock drafts out there are just based on other mock drafts. very few of those people actually know what they're doing
                          I don't go by mock drafts, I'm a HUGE college football fan and actually know what Im talking about.

                          Honestly I don't want Bruce Campbell but its no way he drops out of the 1st round. He is a freak of athlete but not a football player. With the right OL coach he could become a star, too bad we don't have a OL coach who could do that.

                          Charles Brown is a former TE who is a good pass blocker and a hard worker but needs to improve his strength and run blocking, but its not like Clifton was that great of a run blocker. Also Brown is a good fit in the zone blocking scheme.

                          "That guy from Rutgers" Anthony Davis is pretty much the same player as Andre Smith and don't see him dropping to us.

                          Brian Bulaga is the guy I really want and I don't think its out of the question that he might drop a few spots. Right now I don't think he is a top 15 pick but could go anywhere right after that.
                          so because you're a fan you watched every single snap of every game of every prospect in this years draft. paying attention to every player on the field for that snap and evaluating them all

                          correct?
                          Whatever man, be a smartass about it.

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                          • #43
                            I have no faith in TT in terms of making our line better. If he allows Cliffy to go, he better have a plan in place to rectify our gaping hole at LT. What would have last year have looked like if 65 wasn't there to save TT's butt? TT's best move was drafting 12, now he should do what he can to keep him upright.
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                            • #44
                              I think people are underestimating Lang. If he has a chance to focus on the LT position through training camp, which was not the case last year, I think he could do the job. I don't think it's his best position, but he would be adequate.

                              At any rate, Clifton hasn't signed with Washington yet. If Washington doesn't want to significantly beat the Packers offer, he could still end up here.
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                              • #45
                                Its the Redskins and their LT just retired....they are going to pay.

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