Packerats 2010 Mock Draft

[Fred's Slacks]

Wow, three players I really like going right before our pick. I thought we'd actually have a shot at Graham and Mathews. To me its a tough call between Davis and Mays.

[Lurker64]

With the way the board looks right now, I think the Packers only reasonable choices are:

Anthony Davis (highest ceiling of any OT available)
Charles Brown (best ZBS OT available)
Kyle Wilson (best CB available)
Jerry Hughes (best pass rushing OLB available)
Taylor Mays (best S available).

Someone like Jahvid Best could be a dark horse, but I think it's down to those five.

Interestingly enough, everybody by Mays, Kindle, and Pouncey from the initial poll has been picked.

[Fred's Slacks]

With the way the board looks right now, I think the Packers only reasonable choices are:

Anthony Davis (highest ceiling of any OT available)
Charles Brown (best ZBS OT available)
Kyle Wilson (best CB available)
Jerry Hughes (best pass rushing OLB available)
Taylor Mays (best S available).

Someone like Jahvid Best could be a dark horse, but I think it's down to those five.

Interestingly enough, everybody by Mays, Kindle, and Pouncey from the initial poll has been picked.

I like Brown but I don't think I'd take him over Davis.
I don't really know much about Wilson, as I haven't looked at Corners very closely.
I've stated in another thread how I don't think Hughes gives us enough of an upgrade over Jones to take him at 23.

So that leaves Davis and Mays. Both excellent prospects. Both have bust potential. I like our chances better with Mays' attitude plus I have a lot more faith in Darren Perry then Campen. So even though I said Davis was a no-brainer in another thread, I actually think I'd take Mays (and hope like hell we can get Saffold, Veldheer or Tony Washington later).

[RashanGary]

Geeze, I don't love any of the guys here. This is the point, I'd hope for a Ted special.

[Brandon494]

Its no way the Bengals would take a OT with their 1st pick after taking Andre Smith last season. Even if they thought he could be moved to guard they have other positions of need they would have addressed before taking Bulaga. I believe they would have taken DT Brian Price, TE Jermaine Gresham, or S Taylor Mays in that spot. Doesn't really matter though since Bulaga would never fall this far in the draft.

Anyway here are the players we are looking at.....

Kyle Wilson-

All-out playmaker. Excellent balance, footwork, instincts and overall coordination. Very good speed with fluid hips. Solid tackler. Excellent return man. Great press and off-coverage corner. Questionable size. Graded out very well during the Senior Bowl.

Athony Davis-

Great strength, size and length with long arms. Excellent footwork with very good quickness and agility for a man his size (6'6" 330lbs). Plays with very good balance while displaying tenacity and power. Keeps his feet moving and is a very good run blocker. Has played on a solid offensive line throughout college and he has been the anchor. Inconsistent technique and questionable work ethic and character. Ran a 5.38 at the combine with 21 reps on the bench (225 lbs).

Jerry Hughes-

Great tackler, very good instincts, creates fumbles, changes directions well, can chase down the quarterback in the backfield, gets low under the pads and uses a bullrush. Undersized, will need to switch to outside linebacker, trouble defending the run at him, needs to learn more pass rush moves.

Taylor Mays-

Big-time hitter who welcomes contact. Very good in run support and plays like a LB near the line of scrimmage - has LB size. Tall, athletic, powerful and extremely physical. Liability in the pass game - has tight hips, takes poor angles and has limited ball skills. More of an athlete than a football player. Ran an impressive 4.43 at the combine with 24 reps on the bench (225 lbs).

Honestly each one of these players would improve our team but I think Kyle Wilson is the best choice here. Charles Woodson is not getting any younger and we have no idea what type of player Al Harris will be when he comes back from ACL injury at the age of 35. Tramon Williams is a good player but after that we really have no one at CB that is proven. Kyle Wilson would also improve our kick returning game that was one of the worst in the league last season.

[Fred's Slacks]

I feel like my wife picking an outfit...I keep changing my mind.

We've needed a true LT prospect for too long and Davis is too good to pass at this point. I don't believe he will be available at 23 when this thing is for real but if he is (and Bulaga isn't), then he's gotta be the pick.

[Brandon494]

I feel like my wife picking an outfit...I keep changing my mind.

We've needed a true LT prospect for too long and Davis is too good to pass at this point. I don't believe he will be available at 23 when this thing is for real but if he is (and Bulaga isn't), then he's gotta be the pick.

Yea but he has character issues which TT is big on. I agree it would be hard to pass on his talent but I don't want some fat slub who only cares about getting his money. I want a football player.

[Joemailman]

Its no way the Bengals would take a OT with their 1st pick after taking Andre Smith last season. Even if they thought he could be moved to guard they have other positions of need they would have addressed before taking Bulaga. I believe they would have taken DT Brian Price, TE Jermaine Gresham, or S Taylor Mays in that spot. Doesn't really matter though since Bulaga would never fall this far in the draft.

I was really close to making Mays the pick here, but felt Bulaga was too good to pass up. Figure they can get a guy like Morgan Burnett or Nate Allen in Round 2. Gresham would have been a reach.

[Fred's Slacks]

Its no way the Bengals would take a OT with their 1st pick after taking Andre Smith last season. Even if they thought he could be moved to guard they have other positions of need they would have addressed before taking Bulaga. I believe they would have taken DT Brian Price, TE Jermaine Gresham, or S Taylor Mays in that spot. Doesn't really matter though since Bulaga would never fall this far in the draft.

I was really close to making Mays the pick here, but felt Bulaga was too good to pass up. Figure they can get a guy like Morgan Burnett or Nate Allen in Round 2. Gresham would have been a reach.

Agreed, I could see them passing on Campell and Davis even Trent Wiliams but Bulaga is too good to pass at that point IMO.

[RashanGary]

Yea but he has character issues which TT is big on. I agree it would be hard to pass on his talent but I don't want some fat slub who only cares about getting his money. I want a football player.

This post, and the one before it are exactly what I'm thinking, almost word for word, strangely.


I'm with Kyle Wilson too. He's another guy I see as a great player. Getting a star corner does not hurt this team, especially when he also happens to be one of the best returners in this draft class. Actually, it's one of our greatest needs. Now we're an OT some pass rush and safety depth or starter away from filling our biggest needs.

I like Hughes too, I just have such a hard time projecting a DE into OLB. Just what I know, I think Wilson is the safer pick and still loaded with upside.

Woodson, Williams, Wilson. . . Yeah. I feel good about the present and future of that group. Didn't feel that way before the pick so it's a big pick up for us.

[swede]

I feel like my wife picking an outfit...I keep changing my mind.

We've needed a true LT prospect for too long and Davis is too good to pass at this point. I don't believe he will be available at 23 when this thing is for real but if he is (and Bulaga isn't), then he's gotta be the pick.

Yea but he has character issues which TT is big on. I agree it would be hard to pass on his talent but I don't want some fat slub who only cares about getting his money. I want a football player.

I haven't heard much about the character issues. But offensive line is a spot on the team which requires its own chemistry. Perhaps one of the reasons Jamon Meredith is no longer here is that he wasn't making any progress as a team mate.

Keeping it real, I know we're only talking about a Packerrats mock, but if a guy is kind of a me first person and he drops further in the draft than he expected the Crabtree effect may cause that player to be a distracting holdout.

Great. Now I hate Davis. Selfish holdout bastard.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I love Kris Wilson. The kid is a real playmaker. Great corner and even has return skills to add to the package. Every time I've watched Boise in the last two seasons Wilson always stood out. He'd be my pick all the way, followed by Hughes, Davis, and Pouncey.

[red]

i think if i'm TT and the draft happens like this one, i'm on the phone right now desperately trying to trade down

davis is the best guy on the board i'm very worried about his motor or lack there-of, and his desire

hughes could be awesome, but i'm also worried about him having to lern a whole new position

charles brown might be nice, but he'd be a bit of a project, which is fine for us with both tackles returning. but why spend a first round pick on a project when you can spend a 2nd or 3rd or the project OT

kyle wilson is all over the place on boards. some have in as the #2 cb, others have him as far down as the 8th best (lindy's). no guarantee TT has him that high. he is kind of short at 5'10

pouncey might be nice, but i'm worried about any player that comes out of Florida. they seem to have a high bust rate

maybe earl thomas. he's either a corner or safety. no one knows. he's also somewhat short

sergio kindle i think would be a good pick, but people on here now hate him because of a low 10 second split

jahvid best would be a real nice addition IMO. but would TT go for a running back that high?

mays is a bigger faster version of bigby. he won't get INT's, he'll miss some assignments and tackles, but he'll get a handfull of huge hits a year that make most of us creme our pants thinking he's a minor god. why spend a 1st on a minor upgrade over a guy already on the roster?

other the best i'm not really excited about anyone left, but also wouldnn't be upset with any of those listed really

[Joemailman]

Davis has had some minor character problems.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272306?tag=playerRatings;players

Intangibles: Davis' competitive fire and effort have not been as consistent as you'd like for a top prospect. Suspended one game for violating team rules in 2008. Benched for a quarter (but had to report earlier due to injury) against Army in October 2009 because he missed a team meeting. Has had issues maintaining weight, even being demoted to second team before his senior year for reporting overweight. Came to Rutgers as a 363-pound freshman.

[red]

I feel like my wife picking an outfit...I keep changing my mind.

We've needed a true LT prospect for too long and Davis is too good to pass at this point. I don't believe he will be available at 23 when this thing is for real but if he is (and Bulaga isn't), then he's gotta be the pick.

Yea but he has character issues which TT is big on. I agree it would be hard to pass on his talent but I don't want some fat slub who only cares about getting his money. I want a football player.

I haven't heard much about the character issues. But offensive line is a spot on the team which requires its own chemistry. Perhaps one of the reasons Jamon Meredith is no longer here is that he wasn't making any progress as a team mate.

Keeping it real, I know we're only talking about a Packerrats mock, but if a guy is kind of a me first person and he drops further in the draft than he expected the Crabtree effect may cause that player to be a distracting holdout.

Great. Now I hate Davis. Selfish holdout bastard.

i've heard that about him too. he doesn't try to hard off the field to make himself better. doesn't lift or workout. he's missed team meetings, he was way over weight and didn't try to lose it and i think got demoted for it, etc. fom the sounds of it he's not a bad guy, but very immature

but on the plus side, he's damn good. imagine how good he might be if he got his shit straight

edit. same info, different sources joe