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  • #61
    Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
    What team has "gone over the top" with these FA signings? When has a team EVER won just because they made these splashes? What a joke. Peppers is OVERPAID...I bet he doesnt even play 12 games this year because of injury. What else is out there? Really. I mean LT or Westbrook? Do we need an aging former star in the backfield to make you happy? What this team needs is a SS and there wasn't one decent enough to sign yet. Lets go position by position:

    QB- AR, enough said, not many are better in the WHOLE NFL much less the FA pool

    HB- Grant and B Jack- Grant as it stands now is better than LT and Westbrook but I think they would be good at the right price here to back up grant and have a change of pace back

    FB- We have our battering rams

    WR- Jennings, Jones, Driver, Nelson- Who do you want here? T.O.?! please. This is a talented WR corp that needs to correct some things late, the drops, but we have size speed and talent here

    TE- Finley and Lee. Finley may be a super freaking star and Lee is a nice Vet backup

    OL- Signed the TOP FA in Chad Clifton and we will draft his successor, I would like Tauch back but I think Ted basically said to him, find a contract and let us match it, I actually am one of the few Pack fans that likes Wells at Center, and Lang, Colledge and Barbre have starting experience but need to gel to stick...who would you have signed here?

    DL- Pickett signed and locked up, BJ Raji showed flashes, Jenkins, Jolly to solid starters...who would have put us over the top here?

    LB- Hawk solid if not unspectacular, Barnett solid as well, CM keep up what he did last year and look the F out, Jones played well in a rookie campaign and we have Pops as a backup with Chillar...heck we could have Hawk as a backup with Chillar as a starter! Nothing in FA that "puts us over the top" here.

    CB- Woodson = Stud, Tramon solid in what he did needs time to develop into a shut down corner and I think that will be this year. Harris- injured but damn if anyone can come back from that at his age it is him. Bell Bush and Underwood...yuck...FA class that could come in and start over Woodson or Tramon...nobody.

    Saftey- Collins will be locked up, Bigby and Martin...well time to shit or get off the pot basically, we need an upgrade here but what was the "over the top" FA here?

    Punter- this could be a FA signing but well its a freaking punter

    Kicker- I am one of his detractors but Crosby isn't as bad as I thought. I love Rackers but Crosby actually looks better...he just needs a different coach maybe. agian nothing out there that really is a huge upgrade



    Basically there was nothing in this FA class that would have made our team markedly better.

    I liked my take...damn Peppers for playing so many games!!! But one less than us
    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
      I liked my take...damn Peppers for playing so many games!!! But one less than us
      Except Grant went down and LT actually had a pretty good season. Would of been nice to have him on our team.

      Finley went down and Lee was practically 3rd string behind Quarless and Crabtree. Not that a FA would of helped.

      That's nitpicking, and naturally we won the SB so who cares, but at least a veteran back would of gave us SOME help once grant went down. Of course no one thought grant would be done for the season after one quarter. Now we appear more set - Grant and Starks going one two in 2011. Grant is the starter I feel, but his carries will be lessened for starks, unless of course starks has a sophmore slump.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by packerbacker1234 View Post
        Except Grant went down and LT actually had a pretty good season. Would of been nice to have him on our team.

        Finley went down and Lee was practically 3rd string behind Quarless and Crabtree. Not that a FA would of helped.

        That's nitpicking, and naturally we won the SB so who cares, but at least a veteran back would of gave us SOME help once grant went down. Of course no one thought grant would be done for the season after one quarter. Now we appear more set - Grant and Starks going one two in 2011. Grant is the starter I feel, but his carries will be lessened for starks, unless of course starks has a sophmore slump.

        Oh I didnt say I was totally correct I just liked my take...I also didnt say "hmmm is our team capable of populating an entire playoff team with our IR guys?" LT would have been cool but towards the end of the year he was less effective as a fantasy back for sure.

        I also looked back and I guess I didnt like the Woodson signing and advocated Ty Law...wow...just wow.
        Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by packerbacker1234 View Post
          Except Grant went down and LT actually had a pretty good season. Would of been nice to have him on our team.

          Finley went down and Lee was practically 3rd string behind Quarless and Crabtree. Not that a FA would of helped.

          That's nitpicking, and naturally we won the SB so who cares, but at least a veteran back would of gave us SOME help once grant went down. Of course no one thought grant would be done for the season after one quarter. Now we appear more set - Grant and Starks going one two in 2011. Grant is the starter I feel, but his carries will be lessened for starks, unless of course starks has a sophmore slump.
          The problem is that in hindsight you can pick out the best FA signings and say we could have signed so and so, but not all of the guys that we could have signed worked out. It's easy to say it was a mistake not to sign so and so with hindsight. Chester Taylor was also a FA that looked like a good pickup for the Bears. He statistically had one of the worst rushing seasons in the history of the NFL, and he was either cut or will be cut by the Bears.

          I think Thompson believes the swing and miss factor is too high on free agents for the cost associated with signing them. Cost/benefit ratio being too high.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #65
            "A lot of credit has to go to Ted Thompson and the personnel staff just the way that they're structured, their work ethic, the principles are in place," McCarthy said. "I don't know if there's another general manager that hits the road as much as Ted Thompson does. When you're in a personnel meeting prior to the draft and discussions are going around the table about a player you know when the final decision is made that Ted has probably had his eyes on him and definitely has done his due diligence. It's very impressive to watch now for five years and it's a big part of why we select the right people."

            Sure sounds like McCarthy is thrilled that Thompson goes on the road and scouts and scouts and scouts. He seems to love that. But that's understandable - when your job depends in large part on the quality of talent you're given, you'd like the guy making the final call to have really done the leg work and not just read the reports of others, like some general managers named Matt Millen seem to have done.

            And now that TT has helped the team win a Super Bowl, he gets a pass until the first season they don't win the Super Bowl. And then it'll start up again - though perhaps not so loudly.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              And now that TT has helped the team win a Super Bowl, he gets a pass until the first season they don't win the Super Bowl. And then it'll start up again - though perhaps not so loudly.
              You being serious? If it starts up again next year because we fall short then I'll seriously have to question the source of "noise".

              It's pretty obvious TT is a top 3-4 GM in the NFL. If not the best.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                when your job depends in large part on the quality of talent you're given, you'd like the guy making the final call to have really done the leg work and not just read the reports of others, like some general managers named Matt Millen seem to have done.
                You're giving Millen too much credit. That guy made up his draft board from watching highlights on SportsCenter.
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #68
                  I've been thinking about this for a while. Shouldn't the title of the thread be "Ted Thompson Signed Whom"?
                  No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                    I've been thinking about this for a while. Shouldn't the title of the thread be "Ted Thompson Signed Whom"?

                    I think you're right. Now explain why that Dr. Suess book shouldn't be "Horton hears a Whom"
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #70
                      Didn't Sherman draft a Heffalump once? Oh wait....that's Pooh.
                      C.H.U.D.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        You're giving Millen too much credit. That guy made up his draft board from watching highlights on SportsCenter.
                        Probably still too much credit being given. More likely it was from either some obscure blog site or he got hot tips from Brent.

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                        • #72
                          Hey, lay off Matt Millen, will ya? Sure, he could have drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Mike Williams. But hey, he already had Joey Harrington. Why all the hate?
                          I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
                            Didn't Sherman draft a Heffalump once? Oh wait....that's Pooh.
                            Sherman drafted Davenport?
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by packerbacker1234 View Post
                              Except Grant went down and LT actually had a pretty good season. Would of been nice to have him on our team.

                              Finley went down and Lee was practically 3rd string behind Quarless and Crabtree. Not that a FA would of helped.

                              That's nitpicking, and naturally we won the SB so who cares, but at least a veteran back would of gave us SOME help once grant went down. Of course no one thought grant would be done for the season after one quarter. Now we appear more set - Grant and Starks going one two in 2011. Grant is the starter I feel, but his carries will be lessened for starks, unless of course starks has a sophmore slump.
                              When LT was available RB wasn't a big need. RB only became a need when we lost Grant to IR. Fortunately we had Starks in reserve but he couldn't play right away.

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