brady quinn to the broncos!

[pbmax]

Quinn held out from his first training camp. That certainly didn't help him. Starting him that first year was no help. And the team stunk. Then there was a coaching change. Just about everything that could go wrong did.

[mission]

He doesn't have an arm and never did.

Nothing else really matters unless you're just one of those accuracy (Montana) guys which he never was either.

His "rep" came from his moxy, good looks, ND and his sister banging AJ Hawk. Nice potential "face of your franchise".

Looking back at some of those quotes makes me laugh.

He's never going to be the guy, but might play some meaningful snaps throughout his career.

[swede]

Quinn held out from his first training camp. That certainly didn't help him. Starting him that first year was no help. And the team stunk. Then there was a coaching change. Just about everything that could go wrong did.

We beat the Browns 31-3 and I remember it was one of those games where you cringed at how awful the other team played on offense. I don't remember if Quinn played. I do know that another quarterback was running bass ackwards and flinging prayers sideways to TE's or WR's still on the line of scrimmage. It was ugly.

It made me think that we may never know which of the league's awful quarterbacks might have been great in the right situation.

And then I thought of Favre. If Wolf doesn't make that call Favre might have ended up mowing grass for a living instead of for relaxation.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Quinn held out from his first training camp. That certainly didn't help him. Starting him that first year was no help. And the team stunk. Then there was a coaching change. Just about everything that could go wrong did.

They didn't really start him that first year though. He didn't throw a pass until the final game of the season.

[Brandon494]

Never thought Quinn was any good, just over hyped because he played for ND.

[Bossman641]

Hmmm, remember all those fans who wanted TT to draft Quinn because he was a sure thing and Rodgers would never amount to anything.

Actually...I don't remember anyone wanting TT to draft Quinn.

I do...

http://packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=4761&highlight=quinn

and

http://packerrats.com/ratchat/viewto...ighlight=quinn

Thank you

I was beginning to think I was going crazy when 4 straight people told me I was wrong.

[swede]

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject:
I think Brady (Quinn) is going to be a good quarterback. He'll be a top 7 starter in the league in a few years.

Cue Barbra Streisand: "Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind..."

[Merlin]

Hmmm, remember all those fans who wanted TT to draft Quinn because he was a sure thing and Rodgers would never amount to anything.

I wanted Thompson to take Quinn because at the time he was BPA (which went 100% to Thompson's philosophy to draft the best football player), it had nothing to do with Rodgers. Had he taken Quinn, he was instant trade bait to the Browns (and it was no secret the Brown's wanted Quinn) who gave their left nut for the guy. Instead, we took a guy who didn't play football for much of his college career because he had major injuries. I didn't like the Harrell pick then and I don't like it now, Quinn was the smart move for the Packers back then. I believe the logic was "The Broncos were going to select him" at the time which is a stupid reason to draft someone. Harrell was not BPA in any way, shape, or form and I think Thompson could have done more with trade bait and extra picks than what has transpired with Harrell.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I wanted Thompson to take Quinn because at the time he was BPA (which went 100% to Thompson's philosophy to draft the best football player), it had nothing to do with Rodgers. Had he taken Quinn, he was instant trade bait to the Browns (and it was no secret the Brown's wanted Quinn) who gave their left nut for the guy. Instead, we took a guy who didn't play football for much of his college career because he had major injuries. I didn't like the Harrell pick then and I don't like it now, Quinn was the smart move for the Packers back then. I believe the logic was "The Broncos were going to select him" at the time which is a stupid reason to draft someone. Harrell was not BPA in any way, shape, or form and I think Thompson could have done more with trade bait and extra picks than what has transpired with Harrell.

You sound like our president with this argument.

[swede]

I wanted Thompson to take Quinn because at the time he was BPA (which went 100% to Thompson's philosophy to draft the best football player), it had nothing to do with Rodgers. Had he taken Quinn, he was instant trade bait to the Browns (and it was no secret the Brown's wanted Quinn) who gave their left nut for the guy. Instead, we took a guy who didn't play football for much of his college career because he had major injuries. I didn't like the Harrell pick then and I don't like it now, Quinn was the smart move for the Packers back then. I believe the logic was "The Broncos were going to select him" at the time which is a stupid reason to draft someone. Harrell was not BPA in any way, shape, or form and I think Thompson could have done more with trade bait and extra picks than what has transpired with Harrell.

You sound like our president with this argument.

My God, even HE hated the Harrell pick!

[RashanGary]

I wanted Thompson to take Quinn because at the time he was BPA (which went 100% to Thompson's philosophy to draft the best football player), it had nothing to do with Rodgers.

You have no clue who Thompson thought was the Best Player Available.

Had he taken Quinn, he was instant trade bait to the Browns (and it was no secret the Brown's wanted Quinn) who gave their left nut for the guy. Instead, we took a guy who didn't play football for much of his college career because he had major injuries. I didn't like the Harrell pick then and I don't like it now, Quinn was the smart move for the Packers back then. I believe the logic was "The Broncos were going to select him" at the time which is a stupid reason to draft someone. Harrell was not BPA in any way, shape, or form and I think Thompson could have done more with trade bait and extra picks than what has transpired with Harrell.

Players can come out of college with major health concerns and start every game of their career, eventually setting records for accountability that nobody will ever break (see Brett Favre, not supposing to last more than 5-7 years in the NFL acording to Wolf)

and

Players can never have so much as the flu through their entire athletic career and not even make it through a full NFL season before injury ends their whole career (see Terrence Murphy).


Every player can get injured. The fact that Harrell has an injury history doesn't make Ted's decision making any more faulty than the Vikings when they chose the RB that couldn't stay healthy in college. In hindsight, it was a bad pick, just like Favre could have been if his intestinal problems had ended his career before it started. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't, but the things you are saying just don't pass the sniff test. Smells like shit to me.

[Brandon494]

I wanted Thompson to take Quinn because at the time he was BPA (which went 100% to Thompson's philosophy to draft the best football player), it had nothing to do with Rodgers. Had he taken Quinn, he was instant trade bait to the Browns (and it was no secret the Brown's wanted Quinn) who gave their left nut for the guy. Instead, we took a guy who didn't play football for much of his college career because he had major injuries. I didn't like the Harrell pick then and I don't like it now, Quinn was the smart move for the Packers back then. I believe the logic was "The Broncos were going to select him" at the time which is a stupid reason to draft someone. Harrell was not BPA in any way, shape, or form and I think Thompson could have done more with trade bait and extra picks than what has transpired with Harrell.

You sound like our president with this argument.

[RashanGary]

Ted's drafted players that have had injuries in the past and it's worked out well. He'll take more in the future and many of those will work out.

He'll take some with no injury history adn some of those will work out, some won't.


Those are facts. Injuries are a part of the decision, but a lot more goes into it than that.

[pbmax]

Hmmm, remember all those fans who wanted TT to draft Quinn because he was a sure thing and Rodgers would never amount to anything.

I wanted Thompson to take Quinn because at the time he was BPA (which went 100% to Thompson's philosophy to draft the best football player), it had nothing to do with Rodgers. Had he taken Quinn, he was instant trade bait to the Browns (and it was no secret the Brown's wanted Quinn) who gave their left nut for the guy. Instead, we took a guy who didn't play football for much of his college career because he had major injuries. I didn't like the Harrell pick then and I don't like it now, Quinn was the smart move for the Packers back then. I believe the logic was "The Broncos were going to select him" at the time which is a stupid reason to draft someone. Harrell was not BPA in any way, shape, or form and I think Thompson could have done more with trade bait and extra picks than what has transpired with Harrell.

Merlin, the possible trade with the Browns was hindsight. Same with the objections to the Harrell pick. Everyone who objected to the Harrell pick started with the argument that is wasn't a position of need and therefore something else should have taken precedence. Then the concerns about his injuries started. Then people learned that the Browns had called looking to trade. When he got hurt people emerged from the ground claiming they knew it was a bad pick and we should have traded with the Browns.

If you read those two threads (quoted two posts above your post quoted by me) your argument at the time, same as Patler's, was that a competition between two prospects would increase the chance of having a worthy successor. After the fact, all those issues have become conflated.