JSO doesn't like the Tausch signing.

[Lurker64]

Which proves my point.... I don't want Colledge, Barbre, or Giacomini starting at RT.

Barbre I'll grant you. If he doesn't turn it around this year, he's gone. Giacomini, I have never seen anything from either positive or negative, so I dunno. But Colledge? Colledge was awful at LT, and was a wreck overall this year, but has played well at RT in spot duty in places.

You also have to keep in mind that there's approximately a 300% chance that Thompson will draft at least one person with the ability to start at tackle eventually in this league. That guy might be fine for spot duty at RT too.

[vince]

Bedard criticizing a Ted Thompson move. What a complete shocker. In other equally unbelievable twists, the sky is up, the sun rose this morning, and Skin criticized Bigby.

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Brandon touched on it a bit with the injury stuff.

Same thing with Clifton... neither of those guys actually had time to train, run, lift, etc and their bodies just weren't physically prepared. it's easy to predict both of our tackles continuing on the same parabola of their decline but I could see them both stepping it up this year and surprising a lot of people.

I don't have much to base it on besides the fact that these guys can go about a normal routine throughout the offseason, but we could be in for a pleasant surprise from a protection standpoint. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see Lang come on at LG and really solidify the line while we groom a couple new draft choices at tackle.

[RashanGary]

I understand the point, but disagree. Tasuch might not be great, but he is a serviceable starter and makes it possible to have Lang as a backup. If we lost Tascher and Lang was starting, I'd be really concerned about our backup tackle situation. Now, I'm not nearly as concerned.

If a top tier OL drops to us, we could easily trade Colledge or Spitz and move Lang to LG.

It's an insurance policy. If we don't draft a great lineman, then it makes sure we have depth this year. If we do draft a great lineman, then we can unload one of our other lineman. There are a lot of teams looking for serviceable staring lineman and if the draft goes our way, we'll have an extra one to trade.

[Brandon494]

I actually agreed with the article. I spent a lot of time watching Tauscher late in the season, and he was average at best. He made lots of mistakes, and looked slow. People disagree with me, that's ok, everyone has an opinion...I just tend to base it on specific fact while watching the game.

Like for instance (this was on the Madison ESPN radio station) in the month of december, 92% of all pass protections were called towards Tauscher to help him out...not often you do that with a right handed QB. Again, I don't know where that number came from, so it is what it is. I thought forever that Lang would have given us more than Tauscher did, and thought that signing Tauscher was a mistake in sense unless he is a back-up.

He came back from a serious ACL injury and was tossed right into the action. If you don't think Tauscher helps this team then you just don't know much about football. Yea Lang looked good last season but I'd rather have Lang backing up both tackle positions. If we did not sign Tauscher and had Lang starting at RT who would we have backing up the tackle positions?

Ok, so don't ever say I don't know football...I was one of the first to say Aaron Rodgers will be a good QB when everyone else was claiming him to be a bust. And one thing I know for sure, is Mark Tauscher doesn't start on any other team besides maybe Cleveland, St. Louis, Detroit, and Oakland.

My bad wasn't trying to take a shot at you but since you brought it up....

ND72 wrote: I put my word on that, and you can save it and show it to me if i'm wrong, but I won't be...Brady Quinn will be a Franchise.

[digitaldean]

If a top tier OL drops to us, we could easily trade Colledge or Spitz and move Lang to LG.

The way Colledge is going (skipping OTAs) he is wearing out his welcome VERY fast.

[swede]

I actually agreed with the article. I spent a lot of time watching Tauscher late in the season, and he was average at best... I thought forever that Lang would have given us more than Tauscher did, and thought that signing Tauscher was a mistake in sense unless he is a back-up.

He came back from a serious ACL injury and was tossed right into the action. If you don't think Tauscher helps this team then you just don't know much about football.

He might be wrong, but ND knows a hell of a lot about football.

[RashanGary]

Without Tauscher, we have no reliable backup at either tackle position. With Tauscher, we now have a reliable backup at both positions (lang). That, alone, makes it a good move.

I'm still hoping for a great tackle prospect early, but now we're not in trouble if we don't get one.

[Brandon494]

Without Tauscher, we have no reliable backup at either tackle position. With Tauscher, we now have a reliable backup at both positions (lang). That, alone, makes it a good move.

I'm still hoping for a great tackle prospect early, but now we're not in trouble if we don't get one.

+1

Thats all I was trying to say and if you can't understand how Tauscher helps this team then you can see why I would make the mistake to think he didn't know much about football.

[pbmax]

I actually agreed with the article. I spent a lot of time watching Tauscher late in the season, and he was average at best. He made lots of mistakes, and looked slow. People disagree with me, that's ok, everyone has an opinion...I just tend to base it on specific fact while watching the game.

Like for instance (this was on the Madison ESPN radio station) in the month of december, 92% of all pass protections were called towards Tauscher to help him out...not often you do that with a right handed QB. Again, I don't know where that number came from, so it is what it is. I thought forever that Lang would have given us more than Tauscher did, and thought that signing Tauscher was a mistake in sense unless he is a back-up.

He came back from a serious ACL injury and was tossed right into the action. If you don't think Tauscher helps this team then you just don't know much about football. Yea Lang looked good last season but I'd rather have Lang backing up both tackle positions. If we did not sign Tauscher and had Lang starting at RT who would we have backing up the tackle positions?

Let's take a deep breath. I believe ND is a former collegiate player AND a current coach. Of all of us, he should know what to look for in a lineman. In fact, I believe he was a lineman. That is different from projecting a college QB to the pros.

Two, I agree with the article and sentiment that Tauscher wasn't the complete solution and looked best when compared to the disaster of pass blocking that was Barbre.

Three, I don't think that depth chart was meant to be taken literally. I think the reason Lang is in green is that no one knows for certain where he will line up in camp. I have serious doubts he will be at RG or center and he will only be at LT if McCarthy has no other choices there. Look for him at RT and LG.

Four, starter money sounds like a decent principal. But Brady Poppinga is making serious money and he is behind Brad Jones and Matthews. Chillar may be outearning other LBs and he plays nickel only. And Donald Lee is outearning Finley, but I doubt the snaps will reflect that next year.

Fifth, the concept that leads to a legitimate question is how much COULD they have paid Tauscher and gotten him to return. He is probably the depth chart starter now, contract or no, based on last year. But Barbre and Giacomini (or a rookie) would not have to move far to unseat him.

Bedard is conflating two facts. The Packers paid that much because they had to ensure his return (as Bretsky has said, he may have been the best tackle left in UFA after Clifton signed). But while it confirms that they do not know what they have with their youth at Right Tackle, it does not preclude one of them beating him out.

[Brandon494]

I actually agreed with the article. I spent a lot of time watching Tauscher late in the season, and he was average at best. He made lots of mistakes, and looked slow. People disagree with me, that's ok, everyone has an opinion...I just tend to base it on specific fact while watching the game.

Like for instance (this was on the Madison ESPN radio station) in the month of december, 92% of all pass protections were called towards Tauscher to help him out...not often you do that with a right handed QB. Again, I don't know where that number came from, so it is what it is. I thought forever that Lang would have given us more than Tauscher did, and thought that signing Tauscher was a mistake in sense unless he is a back-up.

He came back from a serious ACL injury and was tossed right into the action. If you don't think Tauscher helps this team then you just don't know much about football. Yea Lang looked good last season but I'd rather have Lang backing up both tackle positions. If we did not sign Tauscher and had Lang starting at RT who would we have backing up the tackle positions?

Let's take a deep breath. I believe ND is a former collegiate player AND a current coach. Of all of us, he should know what to look for in a lineman. In fact, I believe he was a lineman. That is different from projecting a college QB to the pros.

Two, I agree with the article and sentiment that Tauscher wasn't the complete solution and looked best when compared to the disaster of pass blocking that was Barbre.

Three, I don't think that depth chart was meant to be taken literally. I think the reason Lang is in green is that no one knows for certain where he will line up in camp. I have serious doubts he will be at RG or center and he will only be at LT if McCarthy has no other choices there. Look for him at RT and LG.

Four, starter money sounds like a decent principal. But Brady Poppinga is making serious money and he is behind Brad Jones and Matthews. Chillar may be outearning other LBs and he plays nickel only. And Donald Lee is outearning Finley, but I doubt the snaps will reflect that next year.

Fifth, the concept that leads to a legitimate question is how much COULD they have paid Tauscher and gotten him to return. He is probably the depth chart starter now, contract or no, based on last year. But Barbre and Giacomini (or a rookie) would not have to move far to unseat him.

Bedard is conflating two facts. The Packers paid that much because they had to ensure his return (as Bretsky has said, he may have been the best tackle left in UFA after Clifton signed). But while it confirms that they do not know what they have with their youth at Right Tackle, it does not preclude one of them beating him out.

I understand he was a former player and is now currently a coach and while I respect him as a fellow Packer fan I just have not read anything he has posted to make me think he is a good talent evaluator.

Also he stated that when Tauscher came back that he made mistakes and was slow. Well thats going to happen when you come back from a ACL injury mid way in the season without any off-season training. For what Tauscher had to go thru he did a damn good job at RT and I see no reason why anyone would be against bringing him back.

[RashanGary]

It also has potential to be a mistake. If he gets injured, mistake. If Lang AND one of the other guys really pans out, then it's a mistake.

If only one of Lang and (Giacomini/Barbre) pan out, then it was a good signing IMO.

The Packers are a pretty good team. It's nice to know they have a little depth on the OL now and have a little time to make sure they get the right players at tickle moving forward.

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lol you guys are tough on brandon ...

it's not about if tauscher has lost a step or this or that... starter money or not, if he's not the most consistent RT we have on the team then he wont start and will provide depth.

our team is better with him on it ... we saw that last year.

i also saw tausch struggle at times... give him a full offseason to do what he does instead of gimping around with a fucked up ACL and we'll probably see him closer to form.

basing his play entirely on what we saw last season just isn't telling of the whole story. a football guy of any level of experience playing/coaching should know that. no offense to anyone, it's good conversation, but there are two ways to look at it.

(ive been an all conference quarterback for the WI HS football team of the 90s and coach QBs @ Jeff Trickey camps every summer ... doesn't make my word gold over anyone elses... no one cared when i said AR was THE MAN

[Brandon494]

It also has potential to be a mistake. If he gets injured, mistake. If Lang AND one of the other guys really pans out, then it's a mistake.

If only one of Lang and (Giacomini/Barbre) pan out, then it was a good signing IMO.

The Packers are a pretty good team. It's nice to know they have a little depth on the OL now and have a little time to make sure they get the right players at tickle moving forward.

Giacomini and Barbre have shown nothing to prove they can handle playing RT in the NFL which make this the right signing. Also while I think Lang is our future at RT its no way of knowing if he'll have a sophmore slump. Although the most important factor to me is that both MM and Rodgers wanted both Clifton and Tauscher back.

[RashanGary]

I agree, Brandon, I don't think they have any confidence in Barbre or Giacomini and that is why Taush was signed.

They're going to give the two prospects that have done nothing so far a chance to stick, but they're not going to bet on it, not for a starters salary. They'd rather take Tausher, take the sure thing and have a quality prospect that they actually do believe in backing him up (lang).


I'm with Brandon, it's a good move. It could go the other way, but I think it has a lot better chance of turning out for the better than worse.

And I agree with ND. Tasuch is just serviceable. He's no better at RT than Colledge is at LG, but I'd rather have serviceable than a big gaping hole and I think that is what this signing says. It says serviceable is a hell of a lot better than one injury putting Barbre or Giacomini on the field. Now they have a little more time to develop the right guy. I really hope it works out soon because we don't have much time.