Taylor Mays a Packers?

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Very few QB's with poor Wonderlific scores make it.......Vince Young might be the exception

What's the limit of poor? Marino was 13. Favre was under 20.

[Bretsky]

Very few QB's with poor Wonderlific scores make it.......Vince Young might be the exception

What's the limit of poor? Marino was 13. Favre was under 20.

did not know about Marino

I'd call fifteen and under poor but honestly I don't know what average is

[Patler]

I'm not a big fan of the Wonderlic test for anything, but an interesting comment I read a few years ago was that of successful NFLers (it might have been starters) as a group O-linemen are among the highest scorers on the test. I think by average they might have been second to QBs. Don't know if it is accurate or not.

[ThunderDan]

Terry Bradshaw scored something like a 12. He's got a few rings.

[ThunderDan]

I'm not a big fan of the Wonderlic test for anything, but an interesting comment I read a few years ago was that of successful NFLers (it might have been starters) as a group O-linemen are among the highest scorers on the test. I think by average they might have been second to QBs. Don't know if it is accurate or not.

I think it was that they had the highest group scores.

[pbmax]

Reasonably good article about Taylor Mays. Not too much on X and Os, but some new stuff (new to me anyway):

--4 year starter had 276 tackles, 21 pass breakups and five interceptions. I had not seen any numbers on pass defensed before. That number is nothing exciting.

--Spent 2009 more in the box.

--Claims he was following coach's instructions by going for jarring hits in the secondary.

Any chance the Packers could be interested in moving Collins deep? He has skills back there, though he plays well in the box, it would seem he is more of a playmaker deep. Mays would seem to be ready to play close to the LOS but be more of a projection deep.

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\Any chance the Packers could be interested in moving Collins deep? He has skills back there, though he plays well in the box, it would seem he is more of a playmaker deep. Mays would seem to be ready to play close to the LOS but be more of a projection deep.

How much different would that be than having Collins deep and Bigby close to the LOS? Doesn't seem like it would be a big improvement.

I think teams are all going to try to spread the Packers out this year, personally. Lots of nickel work to go around.

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\Any chance the Packers could be interested in moving Collins deep? He has skills back there, though he plays well in the box, it would seem he is more of a playmaker deep. Mays would seem to be ready to play close to the LOS but be more of a projection deep.

How much different would that be than having Collins deep and Bigby close to the LOS? Doesn't seem like it would be a big improvement.

I think teams are all going to try to spread the Packers out this year, personally. Lots of nickel work to go around.

Bigby vs Mays? What would be the difference?

About .4 in speed.

[Lurker64]

Mays' poor ball skills, inability to tackle, and general lack of production in college despite his out of this world athleticism scare me.

On the other hand, given that our defensive coordinator is one of the best defensive schematic minds in the modern era, and our safeties coach (Darren Perry) is a by all accounts one of the better position coaches in the league and a rising star.

So I think we'd be in position to get everything out of him that could be got. How much that is? I have no idea.

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Mays' poor ball skills, inability to tackle, and general lack of production in college despite his out of this world athleticism scare me.

On the other hand, given that our defensive coordinator is one of the best defensive schematic minds in the modern era, and our safeties coach (Darren Perry) is a by all accounts one of the better position coaches in the league and a rising star.

So I think we'd be in position to get everything out of him that could be got. How much that is? I have no idea.

I think "inability to tackle" should be reworded as "his poor tacking habits/form" ...

Pretty damn sure a 6'4" dude who's 235 and runs a 4.4 forty has the ability to tackle. He's just gotten lazy / used to getting a rise out of the crowd with his "big hits". It's not like he's scared, he just tries to destroy guys with his shoulder because it's probably worked for most of his career.

You put Mays in camp with Perry / Greene / ETc around and he'll be tackling in no time. Not to nitpick, just saying: he has the ability. Hard to look at him and question that. It's not hard to get a guy to start wrapping up imo. At least I think that'd be a lot easier than teaching a guy how to catch better.

Dexter McCluster ... now that's a guy who I assume has an "inability to tackle".

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I'm about to the point where I wouldn't be pissed off if TT drafted Mays, but I wouldn't be terribly excited either. Maybe he just hasn't been coached up?(really? Pete Carroll?). I dunno, one way or another we'll know in a couple of years. I just hope were are on the right side of that choice; if it is even our choice to be had.

[Fritz]

I just don't know enough - is he Aaron Rouse part II?

[pbmax]

As Patler pointed out, he does tend to go for the big hit rather than tackle in coverage. But you don't collect 96 tackles at safety by accident, even playing up near the LOS. So there should be enough film for the Packers to determine whether his poor form in some cases was a poor choice or an inability to adjust his skills.

[Mazzin]

I was looking at mock drafts, and I've seen on two of them having us take an O-lineman, and then the same cornerback in both.....Chris Cook C.B. Virgina....anyone know anything else about him? I've googled him...he is 6'2/ 212 lbs/ and ran a 4.43....i like his size and speed....the knock on him is that he was a one year wonder....I personally love his Size Speed combo...and he DOES have dreads...

Roto reported that he showed up to his pro day out of shape and uninspired, but that he did impress at the senior bowl