DA BRYANT.....BOOM OR BUST

[Gunakor]

The guy is a badass WR, plus didn't he return punts petty well? Is he a head case? Probably considering how he was raised but he stayed out of trouble except for the lie about Neon from what we can read. He's a tempting pick if he's there that late in the round.

Even if he 'might' be the best receiver in this draft, WR is a position of real strength on our team right now. So if there's a general consensus that he has a decent chance to bust, I don't know if it's worth the risk given other positions of weakness. At least if TT drafted an OT and he busted it could be looked at as an attempt to fix a real problem that just didn't work out. If TT drafts a WR in the first this year and he busts, it's the worst pick of all time because we didn't need a WR to begin with.

[Tarlam!]

If TT drafts a WR in the first this year and he busts, it's the worst pick of all time because we didn't need a WR to begin with.

Gun, I agree with your post 1000% The Pack truly is not in need of a WR out of the 1st or maybe even second round. But I don't know that I agree with your final conclusion above.

Consider them losing DD, JJ and Jordy to injuries.It happened to their secondary last year, right? All of a sudden, we're screaming for quality depth in our secondary.

It is, indeed, the reasoning behind TT's BPA draft philosophy

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The guy is a badass WR, plus didn't he return punts petty well? Is he a head case? Probably considering how he was raised but he stayed out of trouble except for the lie about Neon from what we can read. He's a tempting pick if he's there that late in the round.

Even if he 'might' be the best receiver in this draft, WR is a position of real strength on our team right now. So if there's a general consensus that he has a decent chance to bust, I don't know if it's worth the risk given other positions of weakness. At least if TT drafted an OT and he busted it could be looked at as an attempt to fix a real problem that just didn't work out. If TT drafts a WR in the first this year and he busts, it's the worst pick of all time because we didn't need a WR to begin with.

for some reason that whole scenario sounds very familiar

the year 2007 seems to be burning an image in my brain

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The guy is a badass WR, plus didn't he return punts petty well? Is he a head case? Probably considering how he was raised but he stayed out of trouble except for the lie about Neon from what we can read. He's a tempting pick if he's there that late in the round.

Even if he 'might' be the best receiver in this draft, WR is a position of real strength on our team right now. So if there's a general consensus that he has a decent chance to bust, I don't know if it's worth the risk given other positions of weakness. At least if TT drafted an OT and he busted it could be looked at as an attempt to fix a real problem that just didn't work out. If TT drafts a WR in the first this year and he busts, it's the worst pick of all time because we didn't need a WR to begin with.

for some reason that whole scenario sounds very familiar

the year 2007 seems to be burning an image in my brain

ya man i have this sick feeling in my stomach that we're going to do something kind of wacky...

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He maybe Crabtree or Moss in some ways, but I don't understand the criticism about his work. He's built like a Mack trick for a receiver. Even if OKST helped him with supplements (legal or otherwise), he has obviously spent a great deal of time in the weight room. Would it be impossible to get that work ethic to appear on the field?

And if you could, then the more apt comparison might be Terrel Owens. Not that that makes it any easier.

word is he was late to practices and even games, shows a giant lack of discipline IMO

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He maybe Crabtree or Moss in some ways, but I don't understand the criticism about his work. He's built like a Mack trick for a receiver. Even if OKST helped him with supplements (legal or otherwise), he has obviously spent a great deal of time in the weight room. Would it be impossible to get that work ethic to appear on the field?

And if you could, then the more apt comparison might be Terrel Owens. Not that that makes it any easier.

word is he was late to practices and even games, shows a giant lack of discipline IMO

maybe there was traffic coming from his uptown highrise condo??



(wait, do they have those in stillwater?)

[RashanGary]

I don't want him. Bryant is a great talent, but the exact type that isn't found very often on championship teams.

[ThunderDan]

The guy is a badass WR, plus didn't he return punts petty well? Is he a head case? Probably considering how he was raised but he stayed out of trouble except for the lie about Neon from what we can read. He's a tempting pick if he's there that late in the round.

Even if he 'might' be the best receiver in this draft, WR is a position of real strength on our team right now. So if there's a general consensus that he has a decent chance to bust, I don't know if it's worth the risk given other positions of weakness. At least if TT drafted an OT and he busted it could be looked at as an attempt to fix a real problem that just didn't work out. If TT drafts a WR in the first this year and he busts, it's the worst pick of all time because we didn't need a WR to begin with.

for some reason that whole scenario sounds very familiar

the year 2007 seems to be burning an image in my brain

ya man i have this sick feeling in my stomach that we're going to do something kind of wacky...

We did make it to the NFC Championship game in 2007!

[Tarlam!]

word is he was late to practices and even games, shows a giant lack of discipline IMO

The word that he vehemently denied to be true in his now infamous "enough is enough" interview.

I wonder why he lied, though. What's the big deal if he hangs out at Primetimes crib?

[Bretsky]

It's an interesting debate so I figured I'd spice things up a bit in here

What if TT thinks he's a Hall of Fame Talent ? This is pick #23. Does TT pass up elite talent at #23.

I get the Raji Pick, even though I will STILL stubbornly say Crabtree will be the better pro.

But if you can get elite talent at #23, at just about any position but QB, you have to condider it.

By the Way, the SAME argument can be made for drafting Ryan Matthews

Best WR....Elite RB...perhaps..., or the 5th or 6th best OT ?

[Brandon494]

For the same reason that TT passed on Crabtree last year I think he passes on Bryant this year, should Bryant fall all the way down to #23. No need to draft a boom or bust player at a position of strength in the first round of the draft. If Bryant is the BPA at 23, and there's no other player on TT's board ranked that high, trade the pick away and move down.

The value of the #9 pick and #23 pick is huge difference. Also you saw how well Crabtree played after missing all of training camp and and half the season when he finally did sign with the team.

[RashanGary]

This is one of pacman Jones friends. Several scouts interviewed have said this guy is a bad apple, plain and simple. Not immature, but just a bad guy.


Thompson has always said, he'll give guys a 2nd chance. Good guys make bad decisions, but he will not take a bad guy.


Dez Bryant is a bad guy according to many of the reports.

[falco]

Why waste a first round pick on him when you could pick up a future star like Jeremy Williams in the later rounds???

[Gunakor]

For the same reason that TT passed on Crabtree last year I think he passes on Bryant this year, should Bryant fall all the way down to #23. No need to draft a boom or bust player at a position of strength in the first round of the draft. If Bryant is the BPA at 23, and there's no other player on TT's board ranked that high, trade the pick away and move down.

The value of the #9 pick and #23 pick is huge difference. Also you saw how well Crabtree played after missing all of training camp and and half the season when he finally did sign with the team.

I'm not talking about how Crabs played last season. I'm talking about the question marks surrounding him at draft time. Nobody knew for certain what type of WR he was going to be coming off that injury, which led to some doubt, which would have scared me away from drafting him simply because we did not (and still do not) need a first round WR to begin with.

[pbmax]

This is one of pacman Jones friends. Several scouts interviewed have said this guy is a bad apple, plain and simple. Not immature, but just a bad guy.


Thompson has always said, he'll give guys a 2nd chance. Good guys make bad decisions, but he will not take a bad guy.


Dez Bryant is a bad guy according to many of the reports.

Please find me those quotes or links about him being a bad guy. And what exactly do you mean his is Pacman Jones friend?

"I don't know if he's a mess," Indianapolis Colts president Bill Polian said. "I don't think he's a bad kid. He's just got some difficulty."

No arrests. Says he doesn't smoke pot or drink. He got burned by lying to cover for Deion recruiting him for Eugene Parker. His agent scares me more than Bryant does.