Highlights from Tuesday night's practice

[woodbuck27]

Or, if Al Harris has a good year, they can show him a little love and have all three studs back next year.

Row 67;

That for me is the best case scenario.Al Harris has a really fine season and with Charles Woodson in OUR line-up Al will certainly be tested alot more this season.

I believe we will face more attack through the air also as OUR Offence comes back to where we need it to be.

I don't expect it all to happen at once but I believe we'll be pleased woth OUR team about 6 games into the season. It "wins" will hinge BIG TIME on the effectiveness of OUR OL. In any case OUR ground game will improve from 2005. It has too

Ahmad Carroll will be a sound Nickleback. He'll grow watching and working with Woodson and Harris. Potentially, super mentors.

Anyone making any observations on Nick Collins?

I am also interested in any observation on the following:

Guard Siitupe Peko; (reading some decent things about him)

WR's Chris Francies, Rod Gardner and Marc Boerigter

(note - Ruvell Martin is looking pretty good, from my limited observation.) ***

How's RB Arliss Beach (serious concussion?) after he was mugged by Abdul Hodge in Sunday's practise - reported on - by OUR OWN GregJennings.?

Evidently in that same drill Vonta Leach absolutely destroyed Hawk. Picked him up, carried and slammed him hard onto the ground.I'll bet that opened Ha aaaawww wwwk's eyes, haha. Welcome to the NFL HAWK !

What's DE Michael Montgomery doing? Working hard or in a trance? In the NHL there's a syndrome or phenomena called " the sophomore jinx ". Alot of the time it gets second year players.

What's it about DT Ryan Pickett that bothers me? Look at photos of him in a thread I posted last night from:

http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=galleryindex

*** and absolutely, you have to see the pic of WR Ruvell Martin making a reception just beyond two defenders or photo #15 of the August 1/06 practise.

How's Rookie DT Johnny Jolly looking. This young man has leadership potential if he sticks with us. How atletic does he appear to any of you?

Who is showing up best / second best so far, among these safety's? Better still - rank these young safety's, please:

Marviel Underwood,Tra Boger, Atari Bigby, and Tyrone Culver?

Homework too much ??

GO Packers !!

[wist43]

Move Woodson to safety, as many people who have followed him closely have suggested. Start Carroll.

(I think this will happen eventually.)

Absolutely hate that idea. Do you really want to go back to the "11 corners" defense???

Manuel may or may not turn out to be a productive player, but at least he brings some toughness to the defense. Thompson has, to my amazement, made a conscience effort to bring in tougher, more hard nosed players like Manuel, Hawk, Poppinga, and Hodge.

Woodson is certainly not known for his physicality, and given that Barnett is one of the softest LB'ers in the league, the Packers would go right back to being soft, weak, and susceptible up the middle.

Like I said, I don't know if Manuel will turn out to be a player or not, but he at least represents the kind of toughness I expect at the position - Woodson, while a fine Corner, does not.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Like I said, I don't know if Manuel will turn out to be a player or not, but he at least represents the kind of toughness I expect at the position - Woodson, while a fine Corner, does not.

Wist, have you seen Woodson play? I haven't noticed him in the pros. You may be right, I am just repeating what I have read elswhere. Other people seem to think he can tackle.

[woodbuck27]

The thing about Woodson that you have to remember is tha teams simply did not test him after his first season. The Raiders were weak at the other cornerback position and that is where teams looked to throw. The last couple of years, although mared by injury, Woodson was playing a rover like position in the Raiders 3-5-3 scheme. He was asked to be more active in the run, and also cover the slot one on one.

Again, Woodson never had the shut down ability at corner like Deon Sanders, but injuries did slow him, he would still be considered a top 3 corner in this league based on talent alone.

Hopefully the Packers use Woodson in as many phases of the game as possible, he is a type of player that needs to be kept interested, and having him return punts is a start. Hopefully Carroll can prove that he is choice 1b when it comes to fielding a starting roster so Woodson can be used as a returner and also on offense.

Dr.Nutz:

I still havn't found the time to research Charles Woodson Nutz, but I am trusting you and digging what you are commenting on C. Woodson regarding his overall football skills and his usefulness to us.

Have you got anything specific Nutz, (ie internet Link?), that leans in the direction of giving you the confidence you certainly have in Charles Woodson?

GO PACKERS !

[HarveyWallbangers]

Woodson is certainly not known for his physicality

I don't think Woodson should be moved to safety (maybe in a couple of years), but this isn't true. He's more physical, and a much better tackler, than most corners in the league. That's why a lot of scouts think he'd make a great safety.

[KilrB]

This is a little off topic but does anyone know if there will be a practice on Friday?

PackerTrainingcamp.com lists that its TBD (To Be Determined) Determined by what?

http://www.packerstrainingcamp.com/practice_schedule/

I am planning on arrving in Green Bay Friday and it would be great to catch a Practice before Family Night.

Thanks!

[OKC PackerFan]

Cliff Christl:
Packer Insider


TUESDAY, Aug. 1, 2006, 10:17 p.m.
Camp Report, Aug. 1

THUMBS UP

It was wide receiver Rod Gardner’s third day of practice Tuesday and also his coming out party, so to speak. In the morning, Gardner caught a touchdown pass from quarterback Aaron Rodgers on a post pattern, making a tough catch over cornerback Ahmad Carroll. In the evening session, Gardner had three more catches. He caught a deep ball from quarterback Brett Favre in seven-on-seven. He also caught a short out from Rodgers. In Gardner’s first three practices, he had one catch in team and seven-on-seven sessions.

THUMBS DOWN
It’s hard to know what to make of the Packers’ tight end situation at this point. Tight end Bubba Franks caught a pass in the morning session and four more at night in team and seven-on-seven periods, but he had been having a quiet camp up until then. In the first five practices, he had just three catches. But offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski said he wasn’t concerned. “He’ll be okay,” promised Jagodzinski. “He’ll catch his share of balls this year.” Nevertheless, all eight of Franks’ catches have been in the short to medium range with an emphasis on the short.

Backups David Martin, Donald Lee and Tory Humphrey all run faster than Franks and have made more plays down the field. Over the first seven practices, David Martin has caught 12 passes; Lee, 11; and Humphrey, 5. But Tuesday night, Lee had two drops and Martin another, all on easy passes, and they also seemed to be having trouble breaking free from coverage.

INJURY REPORT
Chad Clifton (knee), Junius Coston (heat related), Arliss Beach (head) and Patrick Dendy (ankle) missed both practices.

Wide receivers Cory Rodgers (hamstring) and Leo Bookman (ankle), running back Najeh Davenport (ankle) and cornerback Mike Hawkins (knee) missed the morning practice and returned at night.

Favre was kicked in the calf late in the evening practice and had an ice pack strapped to it.

ODDS & ENDS
Just as they struggled in the two-minute drill in the off-season workouts, the Packers’ offense failed twice at the end of the evening practice. On the first play from the 24-yard line, Favre hit rookie wide receiver Greg Jennings with a 57-yard strike down the sideline. But a series of mistakes put the offense in a fourth-and-24 situation and Favre threw an interception down the middle to rookie safety Tra Boger. Rodgers, on his turn, threw four straight incomplete passes.

Punting from the opponents’ 45-yard line, Jon Ryan struggled with his directional kicking. Five of his 21 punts were shanks. He also had seven touchbacks. Only five were downed or landed inside the 10. B.J. Sander kicked more consistently, but only three of his 20 punts were downed or landed inside the 10.

The offensive line struggled in one-on-one pass blocking. William Whitticker was whipped twice by Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila. Chris White was pushed back twice by Kenderick Allen and Corey Williams. Aaron Kampman also beat Mark Tauscher twice.