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[Tarlam!]

Does any other team need a punter?

Last year, I found 2 taken in the 5th a one in the 7th rounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NFL_Draft

[Joemailman]

I don't think Schofield is going to be drafted. He will have had no minicamps nor any training camp. He will not be ready to play as a rookie. He will need to be on IR.

The injury occurred on January 25th, if he had immediate surgery and an immaculate comeback, he would be ready to play football at the end of September. Then three to four more weeks on PUP working with the team (PUP is six weeks inactive and 2 weeks to make a roster move I think). Not enough after half the season has passed him by.

I think you're dead wrong about him not being drafted. Look at how many teams have multiple picks in the 6th and 7th rounds. http://www.gbnreport.com/picksbyteam.html. Hell, New England has 5 7th round picks. Someone will take a chance on a guy who has a chance to be a premier pass rusher. It would probably cost less money to sign him as a late round pick than it would if you have to compete with other teams for his services once he is healthy.

[Tarlam!]

New England has 5 7th round picks.

Thanks. I was about to enjoy my dinner and you pop that sick fact out onto the ether.

[gbpackfan]

Who thinks the Packers are going to draft another fullback? Not me.

[Fritz]

Withe the number of teams having mulitple late-round picks, TT will have to either trade down to get a few so he can take his flyers, or pick guys like Mesko a round earlier than he might've otherwise.

I'd be good with Hughes. Don't know much about Washington's potential as a left tackle.

I don't know much about many of the players, so mostly it'll be good unless TT takes Mays, who for some reason scares me.

[Bretsky]

Withe the number of teams having mulitple late-round picks, TT will have to either trade down to get a few so he can take his flyers, or pick guys like Mesko a round earlier than he might've otherwise.

I'd be good with Hughes. Don't know much about Washington's potential as a left tackle.

I don't know much about many of the players, so mostly it'll be good unless TT takes Mays, who for some reason scares me.

I think Hughes is my guy Fritz ! I'm fine with Graham or Kindle...but both will be gone.

Let the Curse Die

[red]

Withe the number of teams having mulitple late-round picks, TT will have to either trade down to get a few so he can take his flyers, or pick guys like Mesko a round earlier than he might've otherwise.

I'd be good with Hughes. Don't know much about Washington's potential as a left tackle.

I don't know much about many of the players, so mostly it'll be good unless TT takes Mays, who for some reason scares me.

I think Hughes is my guy Fritz ! I'm fine with Graham or Kindle...but both will be gone.

Let the Curse Die

hughes in the 1st and veldheer in the 2nd would be perfect in my eyes

[Tarlam!]

OK, call me stupid, but I simply do not understand why TT should draft the 3rd or 4th best OLB in favour of the best OG or OC produced in maybe the last 5 drafts. Pouncey and Iupati already have reservations for Hawai 2012.

Especially when I consider how well a SEVENTH rounder did in the absence of an injured Kampy at the position.

If the Packers solidify their interior line they have a legitimate run game that will open up all kinds of possibilities. I don't see that OG on their roster today, I just don't. M3 is always spouting about the run game, but with the hole at LG, they have no hope of running between the tackles reliably.

Get a mauler in there. Hang on to the pill for 40 minutes a game and starve the rivals of possession. Black and Blue Football!!!

[pbmax]

OK, call me stupid, but I simply do not understand why TT should draft the 3rd or 4th best OLB in favour of the best OG or OC produced in maybe the last 5 drafts. Pouncey and Iupati already have reservations for Hawai 2012.

Especially when I consider how well a SEVENTH rounder did in the absence of an injured Kampy at the position.

If the Packers solidify their interior line they have a legitimate run game that will open up all kinds of possibilities. I don't see that OG on their roster today, I just don't. M3 is always spouting about the run game, but with the hole at LG, they have no hope of running between the tackles reliably.

Get a mauler in there. Hang on to the pill for 40 minutes a game and starve the rivals of possession. Black and Blue Football!!!

Solidifying the interior would be fine and Iupati and Pouncey (I read elsewhere on the board that he wasn't the prospect Mack or Mangold were) might do that. But the inside run game was the run game's one area of relative strength. Its the tackles that struggle with run blocking. So the upgrade there is not dramatic. Still if they are head and shoulders above the rest, I wouldn't hesitate.

But OLB with a pass rush would help out the entire pass defense, especially against the premier passers we struggled against. Jones did not help there. Its whether you wish to lean more need or BPA. A lot depends on the grade of the players.

At NFLdraftscout.cbssports.com, they have:

16. Iupati
27. Pouncey
29. Hughes

Those are just rankings, so the actual draft round value could be different. But it suggests Hughes and Pouncey might be pretty even, at least for these guys.

[swede]

OK, call me stupid, but I simply do not understand why TT should draft the 3rd or 4th best OLB in favour of the best OG or OC produced in maybe the last 5 drafts. Pouncey and Iupati already have reservations for Hawai 2012.

Especially when I consider how well a SEVENTH rounder did in the absence of an injured Kampy at the position.

I agree. I don't think Iupati makes it that far. Pouncey may not. I'd take either of them if they made it that far.

I don't think ANY tackle outside of Okung, Williams, Bulaga, and Davis are worthy of pick 23 OR 55.

I do think Kyle Wilson and Jerry Hughes are worthy of that spot.

I also see an argument for trading out of that spot to get the CB McCourty, a good returner with a reputation for being a solid defensive back, along with some ammunition for moving up again later in the draft.

[Bretsky]

Withe the number of teams having mulitple late-round picks, TT will have to either trade down to get a few so he can take his flyers, or pick guys like Mesko a round earlier than he might've otherwise.

I'd be good with Hughes. Don't know much about Washington's potential as a left tackle.

I don't know much about many of the players, so mostly it'll be good unless TT takes Mays, who for some reason scares me.

I think Hughes is my guy Fritz ! I'm fine with Graham or Kindle...but both will be gone.

Let the Curse Die

hughes in the 1st and veldheer in the 2nd would be perfect in my eyes

Crap; we're screwed.........you want Hughes too

Think Brandon Flowers.....Robert Meacham....there is a bad history when we agree

[Bretsky]

OK, call me stupid, but I simply do not understand why TT should draft the 3rd or 4th best OLB in favour of the best OG or OC produced in maybe the last 5 drafts. Pouncey and Iupati already have reservations for Hawai 2012.

Especially when I consider how well a SEVENTH rounder did in the absence of an injured Kampy at the position.

If the Packers solidify their interior line they have a legitimate run game that will open up all kinds of possibilities. I don't see that OG on their roster today, I just don't. M3 is always spouting about the run game, but with the hole at LG, they have no hope of running between the tackles reliably.

Get a mauler in there. Hang on to the pill for 40 minutes a game and starve the rivals of possession. Black and Blue Football!!!

I'd point out I'm very on board with Kindle; just don't think he's there. I'm not sure we're all that bad in the interior of our OL. I would agree both of those OL would be solid picks. I just prefer the OLB that could bring the pass rush to give GB a dominating defense. Jones did a nice job for a while there but IMO was pretty poor toward the end. The Cardinal game was horrific for him. I think he's a long term roster spot but put a star there and you can have dominance. I don't think Jones is the long term starter there I want to see.

As for Hughes, perhaps I'm a bit more bias because I've watched him play quite a bit and listened to his interviews and love for the game of football.

I also think teams might be willing to trade up five to seven spots to grab a guy like Ryan Matthews...who might be there.

I'd take Hughes at 28-30 and an extra 3rd over most players that will be drafted ahead of him in the first round.

[Bretsky]

OK, call me stupid, but I simply do not understand why TT should draft the 3rd or 4th best OLB in favour of the best OG or OC produced in maybe the last 5 drafts. Pouncey and Iupati already have reservations for Hawai 2012.

Especially when I consider how well a SEVENTH rounder did in the absence of an injured Kampy at the position.

I agree. I don't think Iupati makes it that far. Pouncey may not. I'd take either of them if they made it that far.

I don't think ANY tackle outside of Okung, Williams, Bulaga, and Davis are worthy of pick 23 OR 55.

I do think Kyle Wilson and Jerry Hughes are worthy of that spot.

I also see an argument for trading out of that spot to get the CB McCourty, a good returner with a reputation for being a solid defensive back, along with some ammunition for moving up again later in the draft.

I'd be alright with this as well.

It seems about players 22-35 are very similar in quality.

I wonder if most GM's in the NFL will be looking to trade down with the quality of players in that range

[red]

yeah, thats not good B

i'd be fine with either iupati or pouncey, but i don't know if those two will still be there

[swede]

I'd take Hughes at 28-30 and an extra 3rd over most players that will be drafted ahead of him in the first round.

Is there any way we can weasel Hughes AND McCourty?

IF McCourty is truly a fine returner and a fine cornerback, that would be sweet!