Been hoping for an OLB since Yesterday. Still two that I like Available, but I know Ted won't take either one.
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But beat out implies played better than, not, "replaced due to injury", doesn't it?Originally posted by vinceNot necessarily true when it comes to the veteran tackle spots for example. Someone beating them out most likely means decline or injury. Different situation with Colledge.Originally posted by pbmaxI think that is a tautology you have constructed vince.Originally posted by vinceANY PLAYER getting beat out most likely means improvement at that position.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Sure. It's semantics, but my point is the replacement of a guy like Clifton may or may not be an improvement at the position from the "normal" play of the incumbent. The guy who replaces College - if it's this year - will likely perform better - since Colledge is early in his prime years.Originally posted by pbmaxBut beat out implies played better than, not, "replaced due to injury", doesn't it?Originally posted by vinceNot necessarily true when it comes to the veteran tackle spots for example. Someone beating them out most likely means decline or injury. Different situation with Colledge.Originally posted by pbmaxI think that is a tautology you have constructed vince.Originally posted by vinceANY PLAYER getting beat out most likely means improvement at that position.
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I see your point, but Colledge himself simply needs to revert to 2008 form and then the position isn't the top concern on the O Line.Originally posted by vinceSure. It's semantics, but my point is the replacement of a guy like Clifton may or may not be an improvement at the position from the "normal" play of the incumbent. The guy who replaces College - if it's this year - will likely perform better - since Colledge is early in his prime years.Originally posted by pbmaxBut beat out implies played better than, not, "replaced due to injury", doesn't it?Originally posted by vinceNot necessarily true when it comes to the veteran tackle spots for example. Someone beating them out most likely means decline or injury. Different situation with Colledge.Originally posted by pbmaxI think that is a tautology you have constructed vince.Originally posted by vinceANY PLAYER getting beat out most likely means improvement at that position.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Legarrette Blount?
I thought the dude he hit had it coming.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersAfter the safe pick, Bulaga, in the first round, this draft was all about getting all around athletes with upside. Bretsky should be thrilled with this draft.
DE Michael Neal - Strongest DE in the draft and a good all around athlete.
S Morgan Burnett - Good size/speed combination (6 1/2, 208 lbs, 4.51 40)
"Ran the 40 in 4.51. Vertical jump 39 1/2. Bench-pressed 225 pounds 16 times."
TE Andrew Quarless - Fast and relatively strong also
"He displayed his enviable athletic ability at the combine, running a 4.69 40-yard dash and tying for fifth among tight ends in the bench press."
OG Marshall Newhouse - Tested well at the combine
"Newhouse turned heads at the scouting combine, running the 40 in 5.00 seconds despite his thick build, ranking third among all offensive linemen. Also one of the top performers in the 3-cone drill and the 20-yard shuttle, Newhouse can be a very athletic guard at the next level."
RB James Starks - very good all around athlete, size and speed
"One of three runners to place in the top 10 at combine in 40, vertical, broad, three-cone drill and 20-yard shuttle. (Ben Tate, Montarrio Hardesty)"
Bretsky is alright with this draft.
Bretsky does like upside so that is a huge plus because our draft has that
Bretsky had several things on his draft wishlist
1. Dominant Pass rusher was my number one hope
2. Players with potential to replace who I think our the weakest starters, Bigby and Jones
3. OL Depth
4. Boom like players
5. Special Teams Demon/Punter
Overall I'm content.
1. NO, Not sure we did this; I thought we'd take care of 1 and 2.. Jones with a high pick
2. 1/2 YES, We did get a player to compete with Bigby to take care of part of #2
3. YES, got some nice OL depth
4. YES, got some players with a ton of upside...man if the TE develops we're lights out scary
5. NO...Dam Bill took my Zoltan. Doesn't look like we got a return ace.
Buluga there was too good to pass up although Jerry Hughes was still my guy.
I hope I'm wrong but I haven't embraced the #2 pick. The top tier guys fell shortly before us...would have LOVED to see a tradedown there.
Love Burnett
Fine with the restTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Originally posted by pittstang5Been hoping for an OLB since Yesterday. Still two that I like Available, but I know Ted won't take either one.
Who are they ?TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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So the Packers pick is...DE CJ Wilson[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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CJ Wilson
Strengths
Wilson is a productive, versatile defender who has lined up at different spots along the line. He is an instinctive player who has shown good edge quickness and speed when rushing the passer. Possesses natural range in pursuit. Displays impressive hand-use toughness. Is highly competitive with a good motor.
Weaknesses
Wilson only exhibits average lateral agility and doesn't appear comfortable playing in space. Needs to become more consistent with his pad level. At this time, he only possesses a limited pass-rush package. Needs to improve his counter rush moves.
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