THE 3RD ANNUAL THIS IS THE YEAR FOR FERGUSON ARTICLE

[woodbuck27]

I seriously doubt Ferguson has any trade value at all anymore. Last year in TC the Packers looked decent at receiver with Driver, Walker and Murphy who received pretty decent reports right away. Teams could have had a mistaken assumption that Ferguson was a starting caliber player who was getting squeezed out.

Now, every team knows GB is desperate for receivers. If GB is willing to part with Ferguson, it will be because he is no better than some no-name free agents that will make the final roster. There is no other reason to get rid of him.

Yes. If we let go of him Patler? How much money comes back to OUR CAP if any?

GO PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

Funny! The Ruvell Martin bandwagon. I haven't heard his name once in this training camp on the positive note. In fact, I've heard Driver and Jennings have looked good, Ferguson ordinary, and the rest of the wideouts stink. It sounds like Boerigter has a severe case of the Ben Steeles. Ferguson is still one of the four best receivers on this roster. It will take all preseason to sort it out though. Maybe Rodgers, Martin, and Boerigter turn it around.

Then regarding Ruvell Martin - your missing the ride Harvey.

He's been doing pretty darn good Harvey, and making plays that certainly Gardner and Ferguson and Boerigter arn't. Those three look invisable compared to Ruvell Martin.

GO PACKERS !

[Creepy]

I honestly don't see any positive or negative writing on Ruvell Martin, but he seems to be always catching something and mentioned in the TC notes. His catches are not only from Rodgers but Brett as well. If anybody at the TCs can tell me what they see it would be great.

As for Ferguson, I hope he shines enough to get a darft choice for him. He is a WR, and needs to become one, somebody else can run down filed on ST. Remember, he only plays ST when he is listed as the #3 WR, each time he has been elevated to the #2 slot he is tajen off the ST. So he isn't that big a loss on that group.

[Patler]

Yes. If we let go of him Patler? How much money comes back to OUR CAP if any?

GO PACKERS !

Ferguson's salary is $1.4 million this year. That's the amount that would come off the 2006 cap. Then you have to pay someone else to take his spot.

If Ferguson is released, the cap hit next year is $1.4, which is less than he would cost on the roster, by a fair amount. I believe the cap cost for Ferguson in 2007 is something like $2.5 million and almost $3 million in 2008.

The long and short of it is the cap effect to release ferguson this year is something like:

2006 - reduce by $1.4 million from what it is now.
2007 - reduce by $1.1 million (even though there is "dead money")
2008 - reduce by $3 million

You always have to bear in mind that the "real savings" will be less whatever the player who takes his roster spot is paid. The player who would not be there if Ferguson were kept.

[Creepy]

The cost of the replacemnet is if they go outside to get it. Gardner at #3, Jenning #2, Driver #1, Boewriter #4 and Martin or somebody already in camp at #5. No need to pay for another back-up.

[Patler]

The cost of the replacemnet is if they go outside to get it. Gardner at #3, Jenning #2, Driver #1, Boewriter #4 and Martin or somebody already in camp at #5. No need to pay for another back-up.

Well, sort of. Right now the cap number is calculated as the highest paid 51 players, plus all prorated bonuses amounts, dead money, etc. As a result, many of the players in camp right now are not counted against the cap. When a player is released, everyone below him in cost moves up a notch, and the player who was #52 and did not count now becomes #51 and counts against the cap. If Ferguson were released today, he would no longer count, but the old number #52 on the list would become #51 and would count, so the net change is the differenc of the two amounts.

Same thing applies in reverse if a player is signed in preseason. If he is one of the highest paid 51, everyone below him moves down a notch. The cap effect is the new players cap value minus the salary of the player who now becomes #52 on the list and no longer counts.

Once the season starts the cap number includes the 53 players on the final roster, everyone on the practice squad, everyone on IR & PUP and what ever amounts of bonuses have to be counted for players that were released. Partial salaries count for players who are signed for less than the entire season, with some exceptions for certain classses of veterans whose salaries are guaranteed.

[red]

heres a line from profootballtalk.com that sums up fergusons situation perfectly.

from the Wednesday morning one liners

"Memo to Packers WR Robert Ferguson: Wideouts typically "break out" at some point before year six of their careers."

couldn't have put it better myself

[the_idle_threat]

I was going to post this article last night, but I couldn't come up with an appropriately snide subject line.

Good Job, Bretsky---you hit it right on the head!

[HarveyWallbangers]

I honestly don't see any positive or negative writing on Ruvell Martin, but he seems to be always catching something and mentioned in the TC notes. His catches are not only from Rodgers but Brett as well. If anybody at the TCs can tell me what they see it would be great.

Since the pads went on? I haven't seen anything about Martin since the pads went on this weekend. I couldn't care less how he looked in shorts during the OTAs. I've seen him lumped in with the other receivers for generally poor play. I've seen him mentioned once or twice catching balls, but damn near every player on the roster has been mentioned in one of the many reports/blogs out there by now. I haven't seen anything that said something like "Martin has continued his impressive play from the OTAs." I'd like to see it. Please post.

[MJZiggy]

This is as close as there is. The section of the article from Packers.com was talking about an emphasis by the coaches on the offense winning 50/50 up-for-grabs passes.

During the red zone portion towards the end of practice, Robert Ferguson and Ruvell Martin each won a jump ball on pop-fly passes to the corner of the end zone, a play often used against single coverage and/or to beat a blitz. Those were a good start, but Jagodzinski hasn't seen enough of those plays.

If he can do that in a game, that would improve his chances of sending Fergie off the roster.

[HarveyWallbangers]

With the varous reports, I've seen practically every player on the roster making A play or two. I want to see where the "experts" are saying that Martin has been playing well--now that the pads have been put on. If so, great for him. I don't buy into the reports on a guy doing well in OTAs.

[Noodle]

Screw you nattering naboobs of negativism.

Fergie is going to have his year this year. He's practicing well, he's faster, he's stronger, he's healthier. All systems go.

And when he's handing out invites to all his loyal fans to the pro bowl, you can all give my white, hairy ass a big ol kiss as I fly off to Hawaii.

Honestly, he took a hit that would have killed most of the folks posting on this forum. And he held on to the ball. Most of us would have been lucky to have held on to our bowels.

Now he's having a good camp, and all you guys can do is hate. The current depth chart is the one we'll see at the end of the season, and I here and now predict that Fergie gets a 1,000 yard season.

[Bretsky]

Screw you nattering naboobs of negativism.

Fergie is going to have his year this year. He's practicing well, he's faster, he's stronger, he's healthier. All systems go.

And when he's handing out invites to all his loyal fans to the pro bowl, you can all give my white, hairy ass a big ol kiss as I fly off to Hawaii.

Honestly, he took a hit that would have killed most of the folks posting on this forum. And he held on to the ball. Most of us would have been lucky to have held on to our bowels.

Now he's having a good camp, and all you guys can do is hate. The current depth chart is the one we'll see at the end of the season, and I here and now predict that Fergie gets a 1,000 yard season.

DON"T YOU EVER LEARN ?

Predicting a 1,000 yard season ?

You know what I'm thinking; I need not say more.

[Patler]

Screw you nattering naboobs of negativism.

Fergie is going to have his year this year. He's practicing well, he's faster, he's stronger, he's healthier. All systems go.

And when he's handing out invites to all his loyal fans to the pro bowl, you can all give my white, hairy ass a big ol kiss as I fly off to Hawaii.

Honestly, he took a hit that would have killed most of the folks posting on this forum. And he held on to the ball. Most of us would have been lucky to have held on to our bowels.

Now he's having a good camp, and all you guys can do is hate. The current depth chart is the one we'll see at the end of the season, and I here and now predict that Fergie gets a 1,000 yard season.

... and what are you predicting for David Martin?

[BF4MVP]

Screw you nattering naboobs of negativism.

Fergie is going to have his year this year. He's practicing well, he's faster, he's stronger, he's healthier. All systems go.

And when he's handing out invites to all his loyal fans to the pro bowl, you can all give my white, hairy ass a big ol kiss as I fly off to Hawaii.

Honestly, he took a hit that would have killed most of the folks posting on this forum. And he held on to the ball. Most of us would have been lucky to have held on to our bowels.

Now he's having a good camp, and all you guys can do is hate. The current depth chart is the one we'll see at the end of the season, and I here and now predict that Fergie gets a 1,000 yard season.

Finally, someone who feels the same way

I won't go so far as to predict a thousand yard season, but I just hope he plays well..