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  • #16
    Originally posted by green_bowl_packer
    Just read on JSO comment section regarding comments on the Morgan Burnett pick.

    That since 2005, TT has drafted 51 players. Of those, 4 are out of football completely. 13 more are on other teams' rosters. The rest (34) are still employed by the Green Bay Packers. 92% stick rate - pretty f'ing good!!! I wonder how TT stacks up against the rest of the league.

    I think TT is smart enough to change his approach as the team changes and evolves, as much as I'd love to shocked and awed with about 5-6 picks by this point like NE has done (pre-emptive rebuilding there???) and is obviously in a cherry on top phase plugging up positions of need, which I'm glad is finally here.
    I can hate the Yankees because they use the local money machine to purchase established stars, but NE impresses me with their mastery of drafting, draft trading, free agency, and cap management. Playing with essentially the same money as everyone else they use every tool--including illegal ones-- to stay at or near the top. I have a predisposition to be annoyed by them but I shake my head in grudging respect. From what I heard they already have two firsts and two seconds in next year's draft. wow
    [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by swede
      Originally posted by green_bowl_packer
      Just read on JSO comment section regarding comments on the Morgan Burnett pick.

      That since 2005, TT has drafted 51 players. Of those, 4 are out of football completely. 13 more are on other teams' rosters. The rest (34) are still employed by the Green Bay Packers. 92% stick rate - pretty f'ing good!!! I wonder how TT stacks up against the rest of the league.

      I think TT is smart enough to change his approach as the team changes and evolves, as much as I'd love to shocked and awed with about 5-6 picks by this point like NE has done (pre-emptive rebuilding there???) and is obviously in a cherry on top phase plugging up positions of need, which I'm glad is finally here.
      I can hate the Yankees because they use the local money machine to purchase established stars, but NE impresses me with their mastery of drafting, draft trading, free agency, and cap management. I have a predisposition to be annoyed by them but I shake my head in grudging respect. From what I heard they already have two firsts and two seconds in next year's draft. wow
      Damn near every year NE has two 1sts, that they either pick a stud with or turn into another 1st for the next year.

      I'm of the theory that there are only about 5 teams who know what they are doing organizationally (NE, PITT, PHI, IND, and GB).

      For example, watch Jerry Hughes the guy who we were all over for a 3-4 OLB, Polian took him for a 4-3 DE. Guy will probably end up as the new Freeney or the guy INDY has that does nothing but swipe the ball out of QBs hands.
      "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time" Max McGee

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lurker64
        I don't know how much his philosophy has shifted, so much as he recognizes that different roster strengths require a different philosophy.

        If you are a bad team or have a shallow roster, trading down nets you a lot. You will be able to upgrade a lot of positions and some of your picks will be "hits" and turn into potential stars. Trading up, however, nets you very little as you are giving up several upgrades at different positions, for a single upgrade of a position. You're also maximizing risk, in case the guy you trade up for "busts".

        If you're a good team, or have a deep roster, trading down nets you very little. Additional sixth round picks are unlikely to beat out more established players and your roster size is finite. Trading up, on the other hand, can be used to upgrade a key position while you're only giving up picks that might be spent on guys who would be only slight upgrades or wouldn't make the roster in the first place. You stand to gain a lot (if you're right about a player), but you can always fall back on the fact that your team is pretty good anyway.

        It's simply a reasonable strategy.

        Oh how people forget! This is the same thing Sherman did for years and got blasted for in the end! Trading up for specific players is a fools game. Every pick in this draft is a huge gamble. If your going to give the picks away, you better be right or your job title will change in a heartbeat.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by LEWCWA
          Originally posted by Lurker64
          I don't know how much his philosophy has shifted, so much as he recognizes that different roster strengths require a different philosophy.

          If you are a bad team or have a shallow roster, trading down nets you a lot. You will be able to upgrade a lot of positions and some of your picks will be "hits" and turn into potential stars. Trading up, however, nets you very little as you are giving up several upgrades at different positions, for a single upgrade of a position. You're also maximizing risk, in case the guy you trade up for "busts".

          If you're a good team, or have a deep roster, trading down nets you very little. Additional sixth round picks are unlikely to beat out more established players and your roster size is finite. Trading up, on the other hand, can be used to upgrade a key position while you're only giving up picks that might be spent on guys who would be only slight upgrades or wouldn't make the roster in the first place. You stand to gain a lot (if you're right about a player), but you can always fall back on the fact that your team is pretty good anyway.

          It's simply a reasonable strategy.

          Oh how people forget! This is the same thing Sherman did for years and got blasted for in the end! Trading up for specific players is a fools game. Every pick in this draft is a huge gamble. If your going to give the picks away, you better be right or your job title will change in a heartbeat.
          hey there you are! sherman!!!

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