Official Andrew Quarless Thread

[mission]

lol wist.

If this TE breaks out and is a stud you don't think MM will find a way to get him on the field? Super weird for a team to have more than one TE. New England drafted 2! Belichick prolly won't win a superbowl for the Pats either.

Well, that's kind of the point isn't it... we're definitely going to be needing to outscore everyone, coz we sure aint gonna be stoppin em.

if my pregnant wife knew more about football, she'd probably sound a lot like you

[The Leaper]

I agree it was a bit of a head scratcher for me...Finley is a bona-fide TE stud. Even if this guy is a player, he won't see much of the field.

Still, I don't see how you can complain that TT didn't take someone to "fill a hole" like Wist is. Is a 5th round pick really going to be the difference in building a title contender? I doubt it. In the first 100 or so picks, I would agree with Wist's viewpoint that you need to keep your needs in mind. Once you reach the mid to late 4th, I don't mind taking a guy who you grade out as a 3rd round caliber pick if he's still available...even if it creates a logjam currently. Those situations typically will work themselves out over time...via injury/trade/free agency.

[vince]

Maybe Lee is gone soon and we get a Chewy/Jackson combo

Exactly. A Finley clone as an added threat makes Finley way more dangerous than he is alone. This combo could be better than Chewy and Jackson were. Finley is a damn tough match-up by himself. Putting two of him on the fields at the same time makes it impossible.

I just hope he has great hands, because once he understands the offense, the only thing that could hurt are (like Lee) drops. Havner has the hands, but not the athleticism to threaten linebackers and safeties. Lee can block, but seems to have forgotten how to catch and is only a marginal threat down the middle.

On paper, this kid looks like he can do it all. That makes EVERYONE better.

[SkinBasket]

Jesus Christ people, it was a 5th round pick. It's not like we blew a 2nd or 3rd on the guy. As I recall, more people than me were lamenting the fact that Lee sucked massive cock last season and was an absolute non factor the second half of the season.

Having two highly athletic, skilled TEs can't hurt us. And as far as Wists concerns that there wasn't player of need that will have a better career - I think it's obvious they feel there wasn't one. It's hard to argue against that when it seems widely agreed this guy has top level talent, and needs coaching and maturing to take advantage of it. I would think backing up Finley in GB is the perfect position for that to happen.

[wist43]

Jolly was a 6th round pick - and he was our best DL last year. Picks matter.

I agree with TT that building thru the draft is the way to go, and I believe he is a damn good judge of talent - that said, he has a blind spot... he is married to his "process" to the exclusion of team building.

TT's philosophy is BPA regardless of position, and over the course of years of drafting, eventually you fill out your roster to the point where all of your bases are covered.

This is TT's 6th draft... shouldn't we have the bases covered by now??? Well, given TT's unwillingness to adapt and adjust his philosophy, we have some log jammed positions, and some severely deficient positions. The severely deficient positions are of no concern to TT, b/c his hard and fast rule of BPA doesn't allow him to even consider filling the hole.

He said in his news conference that he will never go up to fill a need... he will only go up to draft a player. What's wrong with identifying a player that fits the value, and fills the need, and go up and get him???

Quarless is a good athlete, maybe he can play OLB or CB???

We'll likely make the playoffs again, but don't be surprised when we get ambushed for 50+ pts again.

[falco]

What's wrong with identifying a player that fits the value, and fills the need, and go up and get him???

Like Matthews?

[falco]

Never mind.

[Fritz]

"TT isn't as much concerned about winning championships, as he is just plodding along to his own beat."

Wist, I can respect your arguments against picks even if I don't agree, but to make claims like this...he doesn't care about winning championships? That's a load of hooey.

[Bossman641]

I agree it was a bit of a head scratcher for me...Finley is a bona-fide TE stud. Even if this guy is a player, he won't see much of the field.

Still, I don't see how you can complain that TT didn't take someone to "fill a hole" like Wist is. Is a 5th round pick really going to be the difference in building a title contender? I doubt it. In the first 100 or so picks, I would agree with Wist's viewpoint that you need to keep your needs in mind. Once you reach the mid to late 4th, I don't mind taking a guy who you grade out as a 3rd round caliber pick if he's still available...even if it creates a logjam currently. Those situations typically will work themselves out over time...via injury/trade/free agency.

Amen.

After seeing the work they did with Finley over the past 2 years, I'm fine with trying to develop a Finley clone.

[mission]

"TT isn't as much concerned about winning championships, as he is just plodding along to his own beat."

Wist, I can respect your arguments against picks even if I don't agree, but to make claims like this...he doesn't care about winning championships? That's a load of hooey.

ya that's why ive just ignored most of the posts... hard to take em too seriously

[falco]

hard to take em too seriously

+1

[Scott Campbell]

"TT isn't as much concerned about winning championships, as he is just plodding along to his own beat."

Wist, I can respect your arguments against picks even if I don't agree, but to make claims like this...he doesn't care about winning championships? That's a load of hooey.

ya that's why ive just ignored most of the posts... hard to take em too seriously

He makes lots of great points, and always remains respectful. Though I routinely don't reach some of the same conclusions he does.

[mission]

"TT isn't as much concerned about winning championships, as he is just plodding along to his own beat."

Wist, I can respect your arguments against picks even if I don't agree, but to make claims like this...he doesn't care about winning championships? That's a load of hooey.

ya that's why ive just ignored most of the posts... hard to take em too seriously

He makes lots of great points, and always remains respectful. Though I routinely don't reach some of the same conclusions he does.

Just from a standpoint of spending my energy on trying to correct his thinking... I used to do that, now I don't care so much

[pbmax]

"TT isn't as much concerned about winning championships, as he is just plodding along to his own beat."

Wist, I can respect your arguments against picks even if I don't agree, but to make claims like this...he doesn't care about winning championships? That's a load of hooey.

When I see him say that, I just substitute "TT isn't concerned with drafting players that I think should be drafted" and it reads much better.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Jolly was a 6th round pick - and he was our best DL last year. Picks matter.

I agree with TT that building thru the draft is the way to go, and I believe he is a damn good judge of talent - that said, he has a blind spot... he is married to his "process" to the exclusion of team building.

TT's philosophy is BPA regardless of position, and over the course of years of drafting, eventually you fill out your roster to the point where all of your bases are covered.

This is TT's 6th draft... shouldn't we have the bases covered by now??? Well, given TT's unwillingness to adapt and adjust his philosophy, we have some log jammed positions, and some severely deficient positions. The severely deficient positions are of no concern to TT, b/c his hard and fast rule of BPA doesn't allow him to even consider filling the hole.

He said in his news conference that he will never go up to fill a need... he will only go up to draft a player. What's wrong with identifying a player that fits the value, and fills the need, and go up and get him???

Quarless is a good athlete, maybe he can play OLB or CB???

We'll likely make the playoffs again, but don't be surprised when we get ambushed for 50+ pts again.

Same story just a different year for you. What would we do without our resident Negative Nancy Wist? It must suck to be so negative and cynical all the time.