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People who think Neal isn't a good fit to play the 5-technique spot are crazy. What else would you want playing the 5-technique other than an athletic 300 pound man with long arms who is rangy and powerful? I mean if Kal-El son of Krypton were available, that would be preferable but I don't think he was eligible for the draft this year.
Also, the first comment saying we should take Cody over Neal is frankly laughable. Cody has bust written all over him, and it's not as though we don't already have two highly paid nose tackles.</delurk>
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Come son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod! Snootchie-bootchies. Ehehehehe!Originally posted by Lurker64People who think Neal isn't a good fit to play the 5-technique spot are crazy. What else would you want playing the 5-technique other than an athletic 300 pound man with long arms who is rangy and powerful? I mean if Kal-El son of Krypton were available, that would be preferable but I don't think he was eligible for the draft this year.
Also, the first comment saying we should take Cody over Neal is frankly laughable. Cody has bust written all over him, and it's not as though we don't already have two highly paid nose tackles.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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The high quality football post with a zing of humor from Lurker might be found on some other board.Originally posted by Tony OdayCome son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod! Snootchie-bootchies. Ehehehehe!Originally posted by Lurker64People who think Neal isn't a good fit to play the 5-technique spot are crazy. What else would you want playing the 5-technique other than an athletic 300 pound man with long arms who is rangy and powerful? I mean if Kal-El son of Krypton were available, that would be preferable but I don't think he was eligible for the draft this year.
Also, the first comment saying we should take Cody over Neal is frankly laughable. Cody has bust written all over him, and it's not as though we don't already have two highly paid nose tackles.
It's the follow-up from Tony O'Day that kills me me. Like Paul following a David Letterman absurdity with a musical quote on the keyboard.
It's football jazz.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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I love reading message board comments. Today it has reinforced the idea that because I have heard of Cody, he must be better than Neal.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Couldn't, at this point, you substitute the name "James Lee" for everything you said about Neal?Originally posted by Lurker64People who think Neal isn't a good fit to play the 5-technique spot are crazy. What else would you want playing the 5-technique other than an athletic 300 pound man with long arms who is rangy and powerful? I mean if Kal-El son of Krypton were available, that would be preferable but I don't think he was eligible for the draft this year.
Also, the first comment saying we should take Cody over Neal is frankly laughable. Cody has bust written all over him, and it's not as though we don't already have two highly paid nose tackles.
Now, that being said, I have faith in Ted's ability to evaluate talent, so hopefully the guy is motivated enough to get off the bench. Nonetheless, I think we all have to be "careful" when talking about talent. They all have "talent" or they wouldn't be in the position to be drafted.
Let's see Neal "bust his ass", and then I'm on board. Right now, I'm hopeful, but skeptical. These shots in the dark that Ted takes sometimes pay off, and sometimes they don't.
Another good DL guy is always a blessing. But, we do not need another Justin Harrell either...
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Comparing Neal to James Lee? Are you kidding?Originally posted by retailguyCouldn't, at this point, you substitute the name "James Lee" for everything you said about Neal?Originally posted by Lurker64People who think Neal isn't a good fit to play the 5-technique spot are crazy. What else would you want playing the 5-technique other than an athletic 300 pound man with long arms who is rangy and powerful? I mean if Kal-El son of Krypton were available, that would be preferable but I don't think he was eligible for the draft this year.
Also, the first comment saying we should take Cody over Neal is frankly laughable. Cody has bust written all over him, and it's not as though we don't already have two highly paid nose tackles.
Now, that being said, I have faith in Ted's ability to evaluate talent, so hopefully the guy is motivated enough to get off the bench. Nonetheless, I think we all have to be "careful" when talking about talent. They all have "talent" or they wouldn't be in the position to be drafted.
Let's see Neal "bust his ass", and then I'm on board. Right now, I'm hopeful, but skeptical. These shots in the dark that Ted takes sometimes pay off, and sometimes they don't.
Another good DL guy is always a blessing. But, we do not need another Justin Harrell either...
Neal rarely came off the field. Lee wasn't even a starter in college.
Neal was a captain. Lee's effort and commitment were questioned.
Neal was on everyone's draft boards. Lee was considered a potential FA at best.
Neal has a record of college performance and achievement. Lee did not.
James Lee was a true "shot in the dark". Neal has unquestioned NFL potential, just as most mid round draft picks have. Whether his potential will be maximized remains to be seen.
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James Lee compares pretty well to DeShawn Wynn. High upside guys that had problems with dedication in college. Wynn was more productive than Lee, so I think Wynn probably had more of a chance than Lee, but similar in that they weren't committed to football.
Ted stays away from those types. Not Packer people for the most part.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Some fans just want to be negative all the time. Look at it this way, he can be negative and be right, and then scream from the rooftops "I told you so". Or he can be wrong, but the team is still doing well so what's it matter if Chicken Little said the sky was falling?Originally posted by Cleft CrustyWatch some college tape and step on deck, Ensign. Clefty wonders just where all these know-nothings come from with their rock solid strong opinions based on personal conjectures.Originally posted by retailguyLet's see Neal "bust his ass", and then I'm on board. .
These people think of themselves as realists, when in reality they still see only what they want to. Maybe I should base a whole theory off of this(if someone hasn't already beat me to the punch). I see it on every sports message board I go to. Maybe I'll call it TPB's Theory on Fanatical Negativity.
The James Lee to Neal comparison really blows my mind as well. Why compare Lee to Neal? Because Lee was a bust and you feel as if Neal will be too? Also, Patler I'm disappointed. I figure you'd prove RG wrong with a statistical data comparison of Neal to Lee not just facts
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
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His long arms are shorter than Bulga's short arms.Originally posted by Lurker64People who think Neal isn't a good fit to play the 5-technique spot are crazy. What else would you want playing the 5-technique other than an athletic 300 pound man with long arms who is rangy and powerful?
I remember reading shortly after the draft of Sitton that the Packers picked him way too early and he was not worth a 4th round pick.
Few of these draft "experts" ever review what they were right and wrong about.
Obviously the Packers found things about Neal that they liked.
Also these draft sites had 5th round grades on the Packers 6th and 7th round picks and a 2nd round grade on Burnett.
Ted drafted the highest ranked player on is board. One of the DE's replaces Montgomery. The other will replace Toribio, Talley, or Harrell.
It wasn't a good draft for CB's so Ted let it go rather than drafting some 5' 8" low quality one.
O-line competition is a good thing. Just cut Bulaga some slack as he will not be 22 before the season is over.
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Gotta have fun or you're deadOriginally posted by swedeThe high quality football post with a zing of humor from Lurker might be found on some other board.Originally posted by Tony OdayCome son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod! Snootchie-bootchies. Ehehehehe!Originally posted by Lurker64People who think Neal isn't a good fit to play the 5-technique spot are crazy. What else would you want playing the 5-technique other than an athletic 300 pound man with long arms who is rangy and powerful? I mean if Kal-El son of Krypton were available, that would be preferable but I don't think he was eligible for the draft this year.
Also, the first comment saying we should take Cody over Neal is frankly laughable. Cody has bust written all over him, and it's not as though we don't already have two highly paid nose tackles.
It's the follow-up from Tony O'Day that kills me me. Like Paul following a David Letterman absurdity with a musical quote on the keyboard.
It's football jazz.
Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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James Lee was accidently discovered when scouting Barnett. Sherman fell in love with the physical measurables. JL shared the starting position at OSU.Originally posted by JustinHarrellJames Lee compares pretty well to DeShawn Wynn. High upside guys that had problems with dedication in college. Wynn was more productive than Lee, so I think Wynn probably had more of a chance than Lee, but similar in that they weren't committed to football.
Ted stays away from those types. Not Packer people for the most part.
Wynn was a highly acclaimed high school player and talented SEC player. Wynn flashed ability (one time packer starter and believe had a 100 yard game). Injuries eventually was Wynn's undoing. Its a shame since Wynn had the talent and ability to possibly be the backup rb.
Wynn was a highly
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I signed up for another Packer board and I lost interest when it took a week to activate my account. I wonder if I could get banned in less than a week if I posted a variation of your kneel before Zod smootchie bootchies remark in every post.Originally posted by Tony OdayGotta have fun or you're deadOriginally posted by swedeThe high quality football post with a zing of humor from Lurker might be found on some other board.Originally posted by Tony OdayCome son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod! Snootchie-bootchies. Ehehehehe!Originally posted by Lurker64People who think Neal isn't a good fit to play the 5-technique spot are crazy. What else would you want playing the 5-technique other than an athletic 300 pound man with long arms who is rangy and powerful? I mean if Kal-El son of Krypton were available, that would be preferable but I don't think he was eligible for the draft this year.
Also, the first comment saying we should take Cody over Neal is frankly laughable. Cody has bust written all over him, and it's not as though we don't already have two highly paid nose tackles.
It's the follow-up from Tony O'Day that kills me me. Like Paul following a David Letterman absurdity with a musical quote on the keyboard.
It's football jazz.
Originally posted by chatterswedeHey, Bulaga lager! Kneel before the FerentZod! ootchie smootchie! ehehehehOriginally posted by ImaginaryChatterPoster"What worries me about Bulaga is the two bad games against quality DE's. And I don't want to hear about the thyroid thing. You have to show up for every game in the NFL."[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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Good point with Sitton -- was not invited to the combine.Originally posted by CaliforniaCheezHis long arms are shorter than Bulga's short arms.Originally posted by Lurker64People who think Neal isn't a good fit to play the 5-technique spot are crazy. What else would you want playing the 5-technique other than an athletic 300 pound man with long arms who is rangy and powerful?
I remember reading shortly after the draft of Sitton that the Packers picked him way too early and he was not worth a 4th round pick.
Few of these draft "experts" ever review what they were right and wrong about.
Obviously the Packers found things about Neal that they liked.
Also these draft sites had 5th round grades on the Packers 6th and 7th round picks and a 2nd round grade on Burnett.
Ted drafted the highest ranked player on is board. One of the DE's replaces Montgomery. The other will replace Toribio, Talley, or Harrell.
It wasn't a good draft for CB's so Ted let it go rather than drafting some 5' 8" low quality one.
O-line competition is a good thing. Just cut Bulaga some slack as he will not be 22 before the season is over.
Why all the second guessing when generally TT is correct and has rebuilt a mistake filled Sherman roster? Is it because of Kiper?
Gil Brandt stated that TT is the only GM in the last 2-3 years that still has every drafted player on the roster. (Okay TT doubters Thompson retired -- thus TT's perfect record is tarnished). Gee Whiz guys -- lets wait until the preseason. (I know its against backups and players not going to be on an NFL roster.)
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