Darryn Colledge's bad attitude

[RashanGary]

Johny Jolly, Tramon Williams and Atari Bigby haven't signed their restricted tenders either. 100 or so players who got stuck in this unusual transition around the NFL haven't either. . . .

[sarcasm]All bad guys. It has nothing to do with the unusual circumstances.[\sarcasm]

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I don't think any of those guys have multiple quotes in papers about wondering if their tender status means they might be playing elsewhere next season. Colledge feels entitled to a new contract and has essentially said that.

[pbmax]

I don't think any of those guys have multiple quotes in papers about wondering if their tender status means they might be playing elsewhere next season. Colledge feels entitled to a new contract and has essentially said that.

Not a quote. Not quotes. One report by an un-named source who heard a radio show and Bedard's belief that the sentiments reflect what others have told him. Colledge has denied the report and said the quotes do not reflect his thinking.

As for feeling entitled to a multi-year contract, I am sure the same could be said of each RFA and Kampman last year. The only RFA on the Packers (the ones at 4 of service) is Collins.

I think Jolly is in far deeper trouble than Colledge. But Jolly had the better year.

[th87]

Gotta feel bad for Colledge. He was a tackle that was forced to bulk up to play guard. And once he got comfortable (and bulky) enough to play guard, they had to move him back out to tackle, where he struggled, and cost himself some money.

I think/hope he'll be back. He was good in 2008, and there's no reason for him not to replicate that if he's not constantly worried about moving around the line.

[Tarlam!]

Not a quote. Not quotes. One report by an un-named source who heard a radio show and Bedard's belief that the sentiments reflect what others have told him. Colledge has denied the report and said the quotes do not reflect his thinking.

Well, that's not entirely accurate, PB. Colledge is quoted in Bedard's article, and the radio station is also named:

As for Colledge, privately he is furious with the Packers. He expected a first-round tender and likely did not get it (Colledge said on Boise radio last night he thought it was a second-round tender).

"If it's a second round, maybe I have a chance to move," Colledge said on KTIK. "Maybe I could be coming to a city near you."

Make no mistake, Colledge would like to leave Green Bay and his agent will be working hard to get a team to offer him a contract. He is tired of being forced to play multiple positions, which Colledge feels has hurt his development.

It's not a coincidence that the two best players on the offensive line last season were right guard Josh Sitton and center Scott Wells. Both have played the same position almost exclusively since joining the Packers.

Other players know that very well. That is why Colledge is not alone in his displeasure with the way the Packers have handled their offensive line.

Whether or not he was accurately quoted is another matter entirely. I didn't hear the radio broadcast, I don't know how Bedard knows he's privately furious. But he used nearly 1/3 of that OL article to highlight the DC situation.

By comparison, only Tom Pelissaro referenced a facebook entry by DC that denies the reports. Pretty thin denial. But I'd be happy to see some journalism.

I believe what Bedard wrote is true, I believe Colledge made the statements on the radio and I believe Colledge - and others - are disatisfied with the musical chairs of days (hopefully) gone by. I believe he believes he's been shafted. That he believes he's a star that's been eclipsed by "The System".

But I also believe that the way the other RFA's have gone about their business to be me "Packer-like". I admire Aaron Kampman. He shut his mouth and supported wherever possible. He took out a full page add thanking the fans and the team. Sure, he became a UFA, but it might have gone eerily wrong with that ACL. But he didn't make derogatory statements on the radio the moment he became an OLB.

By publishing that story, Bedard, who writes for a newspaper that is a key source of info for Packers fans, knew full well he was dropping DC into a pile of shit. Why would he single out a player like that if he didn't have credible sources?

[Tarlam!]

Gotta feel bad for Colledge. He was a tackle that was forced to bulk up to play guard. And once he got comfortable (and bulky) enough to play guard, they had to move him back out to tackle, where he struggled, and cost himself some money.

TH, coming out, he was 299 and he is now listed as 308 pounds. In his time with the Packers, he has IMO based on photos strongly developed his physic to his advantage.

When he was drafted, he was immediately informed, as were the fans, that he would be a Guard. I no longer have the older depth charts, but I vaguely remember him being the primary back up for Cliffy. So, when needed, he play Tackle.

This board has been calling the OL philosophy of "versatitly" crazy since the early M3 days and the obvious shift late last season proved the board correct. In that way, I feel sorry for anyone on the OL not named Cliffy, Tausch, Wells or sitton.

BTW, TH, he didn't need to bulk up to play Guard. The only Tackle on the Packers roster that weighs less than Colledge is Barbre. He needed to develop an NFL physic, as do most rooks.

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Tar, that is precisely my point, he quotes it and doesn't give a source. He obviously didn't hear it himself (unless he was in Boise or streaming it). So what was the reporting of it? If a transcript or audio clip, why not mention it?

The second compliant is the unsourced "privately furious" that is a summation by Bedard. Both may be accurate, but both are very thin and without context.

Third, is import. He likely is furious. Everyone has seen this coming for a year with the 4 year RFAs. And the second round tender was just another reminder of what opportunity he was not going to see. Outside of it being public, I am glad he is ticked. I think this is what McCarthy was referencing when he said Colledge has responded to challenges put before him previously (he mentioned two demotions).

Fourth, Bedard mentions that a source of the conflict is being asked to move around the line. After the draft, it would appear Colledge will no longer be required to play left tackle.

As for his denial being reported only in one place, Silverstein mentioned the same statement on Facebook:

Tom Silverstein, JSOnline March 4th[/url]]On his Facebook page, he wrote that any reports of his unhappiness in Green Bay aren't true.

"Daryn Colledge has been tendered by the Packers for next season," he wrote. "And unlike popular belief and what is written in the papers, I am very happy with the Packers offer, and if I'm back this season, I look forward to another playoff run and a shot at the title."

And while a statement on Facebook seems silly (same source of info as millions of teenagers' angst) it is, unlike some of the article, clearly from Colledge. Bedard likely has the basics correct, but in using the radio quote without source or context as the opening to run the completely unsourced "privately furious", he has shed more heat than light.

[Tarlam!]

Well, PB, I think we're on the same page as far as the facts are concerned. Neither of us know for sure what DC said. I can agree that he has a right to be pissed, so I go along with that aspect.

Where I take issue is that, for whatever reason, his displeasure became public and the facebook denial does nothing to dispel my opinion that he didn't handle it well, publicly. It's not like JSO issued a retraction coupled with an apology, which, if I'm in a negotiation with my employer, I most certainly would insist upon.

Let's say the Wall Street Journal reports that the CEO of company "A" is dissatified and is looking for greener pastuers in a contract year. Let's say the sources wouldn't hold up to closer scrutiny. That CEO would have his legal team on the WSJ asses so fast it would make their heads spin. At very least, he would give a rival publication a firm denial.

None of that happed with DC. It's one thing to say "I'm looking into all my options", quite another to say "I want out of Green Bay". If he indeed did not say the latter, I don't understand his homeopatic denial.

Kampman, Collins, Jennings all weren't happy with some aspect of their employment, but we fans didn't hear a cross word from any of them or about them.

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Well, PB, I think we're on the same page as far as the facts are concerned. Neither of us know for sure what DC said. I can agree that he has a right to be pissed, so I go along with that aspect.

Where I take issue is that, for whatever reason, his displeasure became public and the facebook denial does nothing to dispel my opinion that he didn't handle it well, publicly. It's not like JSO issued a retraction coupled with an apology, which, if I'm in a negotiation with my employer, I most certainly would insist upon.

Let's say the Wall Street Journal reports that the CEO of company "A" is dissatified and is looking for greener pastuers in a contract year. Let's say the sources wouldn't hold up to closer scrutiny. That CEO would have his legal team on the WSJ asses so fast it would make their heads spin. At very least, he would give a rival publication a firm denial.

None of that happed with DC. It's one thing to say "I'm looking into all my options", quite another to say "I want out of Green Bay". If he indeed did not say the latter, I don't understand his homeopatic denial.

Kampman, Collins, Jennings all weren't happy with some aspect of their employment, but we fans didn't hear a cross word from any of them or about them.

I think we are largely in agreement. But a legal team costs money and any gain for Colledge (likely context) would be offset by months of the story being recycled over and over to report on the legal maneuvering.

And lastly, Colledge was largely thrown under the bus not by public speculation that a 2nd round tender meant he could be leaving for another team. In the single sentence quote we have, he does not express a desire to leave as much as seeking an opportunity to sign a long term deal. And from the radio quote, it would read like Green Bay is still an option. They have signed RFA tendered guys to long term deals before (KGB, Diggs) when faced with a sign it or lose him situation.

What kills Colledge was Bedard's unsourced summation of Colledge's desire to leave.

Make no mistake, Colledge would like to leave Green Bay and his agent will be working hard to get a team to offer him a contract. He is tired of being forced to play multiple positions, which Colledge feels has hurt his development.

In all this, your advice that he should have clammed up would have been for the best. By opening the door to speculation with the radio interview, Colledge gave Bedard license to use something he would not have otherwise been able to get into the paper.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Colledge feels entitled to a new contract and has essentially said that.

I haven't followed this one, but don't players eventually think this way? Driver, Collins, ...

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Colledge feels entitled to a new contract and has essentially said that.

I haven't followed this one, but don't players eventually think this way? Driver, Collins, ...

They *think* that way but go about it differently.

And since everyone is suddenly defending Colledge, tell me this:

Why haven't Jolly, Williams or Bigby been "misquoted" about their contract situation? What's the saying about smoke and all of that?

Something PB said a couple weeks ago made me joke that he might actually be Colledge's wife... but maybe it's not so much a joke anymore? :P

[rbaloha1]

Re: Darryn Colledge's bad attitude

Johny Jolly, Tramon Williams and Atari Bigby haven't signed their restricted tenders either. 100 or so players who got stuck in this unusual transition around the NFL haven't either. . . .

[sarcasm]All bad guys. It has nothing to do with the unusual circumstances.[\sarcasm]

Jolly and Williams each had very good years. Jolly (legal problems aside) and Williams are both entitled to long term deals based on play.

On the other hand, Colledge's inconsistent play caused offensive problems. Dude has had 4 years -- time for the Packers to move-on.

Why the talk about shifting from tackle to guard? Boise runs a zbs -- Colledege was a good fit for the Packers zbs scheme at guard. Bulking up -- big deal.

What does Colledge's wife say about the matter?

[retailguy]

This thread reminds me of the little kid in his bedroom, head in hands, saying "I can't be wrong, I just can't be wrong, why can't they see that I AM NOT WRONG?"....

Colledge is what he is, an inconsistent lineman who is an ego maniac. Wasting any further time on him is pointless, and I don't particularly care if he goes somewhere else and has an "adequate" second career like Tony Mandarich. It's just time to move on.

[Gunakor]

Re: Darryn Colledge's bad attitude

Dude has had 4 years -- time for the Packers to move-on

Are you certain that you've counted all 4 years in your evaluation? 2 years ago he was graded as our VERY BEST offensive lineman. Last year he had a bad year. IMO it's time to give Colledge a chance to get back to his 2008 form, it's nowhere NEAR time to move on.

What makes you so certain that 2008 was the fluke and 2009 is what he really is?

[Patler]

Re: Darryn Colledge's bad attitude

What makes you so certain that 2008 was the fluke and 2009 is what he really is?

Maybe because of 2006, 2007 and actually the first part of 2008, too.

All kidding aside, he has been consistently inconsistent his entire career except for part of the 2008 season. If memory serves me correctly (and it may not) he actually struggled early in 2008, too, then supposedly put it all together.