A Jolly good fool

[pbmax]

it wasn't just the pictures that got him in trouble

his lawyer shows up on his trial date and says the trial needs to be rescheduled because jolly was having emergency surgery to have his appendix removed. two days later this party happened and the pictures came out

i'm sure the judge feels he was lied to and is furious

He had already had his appendix removed, but was still in the hospital at the time of the court date. The lawyer had a letter from the doctor explaining the complications, and he was released at the end of that day, according to Bedard.

The pictures were of other events, they did not establish whether he went to the party he was supposed to host at this hearing. His lawyer refused to answer that question when asked by reporters. Its possible the event was scheduled some time ago, but by not answering the question, it seems like he may have gone, imbibing or not.

The only smoking gun would be the report of pictures showing him not just at a party, but holding an alcoholic drink. How you can tell that by looking at a glass is debatable. But if he is holding a bottle of Patron or something, he is going to in a world of hurt.

He has also passed his drug and alcohol tests so far, but the hair follicle will give them a closer look at a longer time period. There was no mention of when he is test was.

[MJZiggy]

it wasn't just the pictures that got him in trouble

his lawyer shows up on his trial date and says the trial needs to be rescheduled because jolly was having emergency surgery to have his appendix removed. two days later this party happened and the pictures came out

i'm sure the judge feels he was lied to and is furious

He had already had his appendix removed, but was still in the hospital at the time of the court date. The lawyer had a letter from the doctor explaining the complications, and he was released at the end of that day, according to Bedard.

The pictures were of other events, they did not establish whether he went to the party he was supposed to host at this hearing. His lawyer refused to answer that question when asked by reporters. Its possible the event was scheduled some time ago, but by not answering the question, it seems like he may have gone, imbibing or not.

The only smoking gun would be the report of pictures showing him not just at a party, but holding an alcoholic drink. How you can tell that by looking at a glass is debatable. But if he is holding a bottle of Patron or something, he is going to in a world of hurt.

He has also passed his drug and alcohol tests so far, but the hair follicle will give them a closer look at a longer time period. There was no mention of when he is test was.

Actually, I think that depends on how long his hair is.

[Joemailman]

Looks like the prosecutors are turning up the heat. I wonder if they really have the goods on him, or if they're trying to intimidate him into accepting a plea bargain. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/95452154.html

[MadScientist]

Looks like the prosecutors are turning up the heat. I wonder if they really have the goods on him, or if they're trying to intimidate him into accepting a plea bargain. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/95452154.html

If they had serious information, they would add to the charges, instead of bringing the more serious allegations to the sentencing phase. Sounds like they have an unreliable witness in the can that they will have testify. The guy is likely not believable enough to convict, but it might be enough to make the sentence longer, if convicted.

My take is that they are trying to change the balance of the equation for Jolly. With just the original charge, he really was looking at probation (plus suspension) if convicted or if he pleas, so there was no reason plea. They are trying to make it look like he will get serious jail time if convicted, vs probation (plus suspension) for a plea.

[Fritz]

it wasn't just the pictures that got him in trouble

his lawyer shows up on his trial date and says the trial needs to be rescheduled because jolly was having emergency surgery to have his appendix removed. two days later this party happened and the pictures came out

i'm sure the judge feels he was lied to and is furious

He had already had his appendix removed, but was still in the hospital at the time of the court date. The lawyer had a letter from the doctor explaining the complications, and he was released at the end of that day, according to Bedard.

The pictures were of other events, they did not establish whether he went to the party he was supposed to host at this hearing. His lawyer refused to answer that question when asked by reporters. Its possible the event was scheduled some time ago, but by not answering the question, it seems like he may have gone, imbibing or not.

The only smoking gun would be the report of pictures showing him not just at a party, but holding an alcoholic drink. How you can tell that by looking at a glass is debatable. But if he is holding a bottle of Patron or something, he is going to in a world of hurt.

He has also passed his drug and alcohol tests so far, but the hair follicle will give them a closer look at a longer time period. There was no mention of when he is test was.

Judge, that was water in that bottle. Swear.

[3irty1]

So he's guilty of mixing cough syrup and Dr. Pepper and then having his picture on some flyer for a party? You guys call that bad character? Jolly is a tard but he's not a bad guy.

[Sparkey]

I have no idea what the truth is. However, it seems, the DA in Houston is making this into more than just possession. Sounds like they are going after him for being a dealer/financier of a dealing operation, or just upping the ante to get him to agree to a plea deal.

http://www.nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37476715/sports/player_news

[MJZiggy]

I think trying to punish him for having a picture on a flyer is ludicrous. Dear Mr. Prosecutor. Please prove to me the date that photo was taken. Dear Mr. Jolly, quit being such a damned fool!

[Joemailman]

Jolly's trial set for July 30, 1st day of training camp. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/95774504.html

Gonna be a tumultuous summer for the Packers, by the looks of things. MM cannot be happy.

[Tarlam!]

Geez, that really sucks.

[pbmax]

I have no idea what the truth is. However, it seems, the DA in Houston is making this into more than just possession. Sounds like they are going after him for being a dealer/financier of a dealing operation, or just upping the ante to get him to agree to a plea deal.

http://www.nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37...ts/player_news

Most of previous actions and dealing innuendo can only be brought forward at the time for sentencing. Some of the worst of it is based on the word of an incarcerated offender, basically someone who might have a lot to gain (or avoid) if they cooperate.

So it may not have an impact on the trial. But I have read as you surmise that it could be construed as a threat about what they plan if they get a guilty plea.

[pbmax]

Well, amend that thought. The prosecutor has indicated he will use the incarcerated man's testimony to impeach Jolly, should he or the defense team make a claim that the DA thinks can be rebutted by their witness. So he may make a court appearance after all and not just be available for the punishment hearing should Jolly be convicted.

[Pugger]

I find it telling that it is taking this long for this to go to trial. Yes, the justice system can be slow but this is ridiculous. I suspect if the DA had a strong case we wouldn't still be sitting here waiting. It's getting almost to the shit or get off the pot time and get this issue resolved one way or another.

[get louder at lambeau]

The prosecutor has indicated he will use the incarcerated man's testimony to impeach Jolly, should he or the defense team make a claim that the DA thinks can be rebutted by their witness.

I'm not familiar with the meaning of the word "impeach" in that context. Does it just mean that if Jolly goes on the stand and testifies, that the prosecutor may call the witness to give a rebuttal that Jolly is lying?

[Joemailman]

Johnny Jolly has been excused from next week's mandatory minicamp.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/96521569.html

McCarthy confirmed Johnny Jolly signed his tender, but he has been excused from next week's mandatory mini-camp. "I have excused Johnny from mini-camp next week," McCarthy said. "We feel it's important for him to concentrate on his legal situation. There's a lot going on, and he needs to focus and make sure he has everything in line. These decisions that are going to be made legally will affect every aspect of his life, most importantly his personal life and then his professional life."

Actually, I suspect MM doesn't want the distraction associated with Jolly's situation at the minicamp. Besides, it makes sense to give guys like Neal as many reps as possible since there's a good chance Jolly won't be available at the start of the season.