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  • #16
    I can see them releasing Poppinga only if one of the young pups - the FA's they signed or Obiozor - proves in camp that he's not only adequate as a backup but assignment-sure too. And of course the kid has to be able to play special teams as well or better than Popps.
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    • #17
      Veterans get cut every year. Jobs have to be earned every year.
      If it is a tie with a younger lower priced guy, the younger guy gets the job.

      Nice that the Packers have a surplus of talent.

      I trust that the right decisions will be made. Unfortunately, as a Packer fan some of those players cut I like. It happens every year.

      You have to learn to like the new players as much or more.

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      • #18
        Re: PFW: Packers Could Release a Number of Veterans

        How about Brandon Jackson? His time has to be almost up. If the Starks can pick up the blitz and catch the ball, he can take over on third down...

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        • #19
          Re: PFW: Packers Could Release a Number of Veterans

          Originally posted by sharpe1027
          How about Brandon Jackson? His time has to be almost up. If the Starks can pick up the blitz and catch the ball, he can take over on third down...
          His time must be almost up why? He's 24 years old.

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          • #20
            Re: PFW: Packers Could Release a Number of Veterans

            Originally posted by sharpe1027
            How about Brandon Jackson? His time has to be almost up. If the Starks can pick up the blitz and catch the ball, he can take over on third down...
            Brandon Jackson is far and away the best pass blocking RB on our roster...I don't think he's likely to go anywhere until someone steps up as a better 3rd down option at RB. Aaron Rodgers needs at least one RB capable of having his back on passing downs.
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            • #21
              maybe on of the FBs? He isnt a real threat out of the backfield...
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              • #22
                Re: PFW: Packers Could Release a Number of Veterans

                Originally posted by get louder at lambeau

                His time must be almost up why? He's 24 years old.
                IDK, I was thinking basically because he's going into his fourth year and he hasn't shown much improvement. Being able to pick up the blitz only goes so far. He breaks a few outside and gets some oohs and ahhs because he has more of a burst than Grant, but many of his runs are on passing downs and distances.

                His rushing yards have gone down every year since his rookie year, his rookie year was nothing special and his receiving yards have been about the same every year.

                2007 Carries: 75 Yards: 267 Catches: 16 Yards: 130
                2008 Carries: 45 Yards: 248 Catches: 30 Yards: 185
                2009 Carries: 37 Yards: 111 Catches: 21 Yards: 187

                I'd say his time to show he's anything more than a average backup is about up. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he's least a possible veteran that could be gone, especially if he gets hurt.

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                • #23
                  Remember, we're going to keep three running backs. Grant is all-but-guaranteed a spot, so that leaves two for everybody else. Behind Grant, our only running backs are Brandon Jackson, James Starks, Kregg Lumpkin, and Quinn Porter. In order for Jackson to get cut, he's going to need to lose out to two of those guys in camp, which I just can't see happening.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Lurker64
                    Remember, we're going to keep three running backs. Grant is all-but-guaranteed a spot, so that leaves two for everybody else. Behind Grant, our only running backs are Brandon Jackson, James Starks, Kregg Lumpkin, and Quinn Porter. In order for Jackson to get cut, he's going to need to lose out to two of those guys in camp, which I just can't see happening.
                    Starks and Westbrook
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                    • #25
                      Re: PFW: Packers Could Release a Number of Veterans

                      Originally posted by sharpe1027
                      Originally posted by get louder at lambeau

                      His time must be almost up why? He's 24 years old.
                      IDK, I was thinking basically because he's going into his fourth year and he hasn't shown much improvement. Being able to pick up the blitz only goes so far. He breaks a few outside and gets some oohs and ahhs because he has more of a burst than Grant, but many of his runs are on passing downs and distances.

                      His rushing yards have gone down every year since his rookie year, his rookie year was nothing special and his receiving yards have been about the same every year.

                      2007 Carries: 75 Yards: 267 Catches: 16 Yards: 130
                      2008 Carries: 45 Yards: 248 Catches: 30 Yards: 185
                      2009 Carries: 37 Yards: 111 Catches: 21 Yards: 187

                      I'd say his time to show he's anything more than a average backup is about up. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he's least a possible veteran that could be gone, especially if he gets hurt.
                      He was injured for a time last season, which may account for his having so few carries and little to show for them. To add to that, they aren't splitting carries in a way that Jackson has much of a chance to really prove himself. Over the past 2 years Grant has gotten 594 carries to Jackson's 82. If they split carries like that again this season I don't think any new back is going to be much more productive than Jackson has been.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tony Oday
                        Originally posted by Lurker64
                        Remember, we're going to keep three running backs. Grant is all-but-guaranteed a spot, so that leaves two for everybody else. Behind Grant, our only running backs are Brandon Jackson, James Starks, Kregg Lumpkin, and Quinn Porter. In order for Jackson to get cut, he's going to need to lose out to two of those guys in camp, which I just can't see happening.
                        Starks and Westbrook
                        Drafting Starks means we won't get Westbrook. Having Starks means we don't need Westbrook.

                        It'll be Grant, Jackson, and Starks heading into the season. Lumpkin will probably be a PS candidate if he's healthy and I doubt Porter makes the team.
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                        • #27
                          Re: PFW: Packers Could Release a Number of Veterans

                          Originally posted by Gunakor
                          He was injured for a time last season, which may account for his having so few carries and little to show for them. To add to that, they aren't splitting carries in a way that Jackson has much of a chance to really prove himself. Over the past 2 years Grant has gotten 594 carries to Jackson's 82. If they split carries like that again this season I don't think any new back is going to be much more productive than Jackson has been.
                          Chicken or the egg? Are the numbers bad because Jackson doesn't get any carries, or does he not get any carries because he isn't good enough? Maybe a bit of both, but I can't imagine they wouldn't find a way to use him more if they thought he could add something. I was hopeful for him for sometime. Now I'm ready to move on.

                          Maybe he won't get cut because they don't have anyone to challenge him, but it's hard to forget that he had trouble beating out Wynn for playing time. He hasn't shown much ability to run between the tackles and really hasn't been that much of a receiving threat. I'm glad he can pickup the blitz, but if they find another RB that can play on 3rd downs and a third back that shows something in the return game, I could see Jackson being left out.

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                          • #28
                            When I think of Brandon Jackson the screaming words of "reach" in the draft come out

                            He was never a guy I look at when I think second round draft pick

                            For what we use him for he does have some value as a Packer though
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Bretsky
                              When I think of Brandon Jackson the screaming words of "reach" in the draft come out

                              He was never a guy I look at when I think second round draft pick

                              For what we use him for he does have some value as a Packer though
                              Really, though... you should forget about what round a guy was drafted in once he's in the NFL. You should only look at what he has given you, what he's likely to give you, and what he could give you. Jackson's been good enough to stick around and contribute, which is good enough. It's not as though there was a gaggle of running backs in the 2007 draft that actually made major or at least noticeable contributions to the teams that drafted them. That draft had one superstar RB, and a bunch of mediocrity.
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