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  • #16
    Originally posted by Lurker64
    Originally posted by Fritz
    Doesn't Barbe seem left out of every conversation about the o-line? I wonder if he even wants to bother to show up.
    Barbre is a hell of an athlete. He had the second best OL workout at the combine ever (behind Bruce Campbell this year), and I'd be willing to bet his college tape was probably better than Campbell's (going to a DII school if it wasn't, he'd never have been drafted.) He's by all accounts a hard worker as well. The only reasons that he hasn't been able to succeed in the NFL to this point are all in his head. Not only is his technique shaky, and he's far from assignment sure, but the kid gets discouraged and responds to bad plays by playing worse. Our coaches have compounded the problem by trying to teach him multiple positions. It's not really clear whether he can handle one of the easy positions if that's all he has to focus on, let alone two at once.

    A really good OL coach might be able to take him on as a reclamation project, and shape him into a middle-of-the-road player. I don't think we have one of those though.
    Didn't Barbre come close to hitting the single digits on his Wonderlic? That might not be the be all end all measure of football intelligence but it sure ain't good.

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    • #17
      Our offensive line coaches seem to coach 'em down.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #18
        Originally posted by hoosier
        Originally posted by Lurker64
        Originally posted by Fritz
        Doesn't Barbe seem left out of every conversation about the o-line? I wonder if he even wants to bother to show up.
        Barbre is a hell of an athlete. He had the second best OL workout at the combine ever (behind Bruce Campbell this year), and I'd be willing to bet his college tape was probably better than Campbell's (going to a DII school if it wasn't, he'd never have been drafted.) He's by all accounts a hard worker as well. The only reasons that he hasn't been able to succeed in the NFL to this point are all in his head. Not only is his technique shaky, and he's far from assignment sure, but the kid gets discouraged and responds to bad plays by playing worse. Our coaches have compounded the problem by trying to teach him multiple positions. It's not really clear whether he can handle one of the easy positions if that's all he has to focus on, let alone two at once.

        A really good OL coach might be able to take him on as a reclamation project, and shape him into a middle-of-the-road player. I don't think we have one of those though.
        Didn't Barbre come close to hitting the single digits on his Wonderlic? That might not be the be all end all measure of football intelligence but it sure ain't good.
        It was an 11. Lowest of the top 25 linemen in his draft.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by hoosier
          Originally posted by Lurker64
          Originally posted by Fritz
          Doesn't Barbe seem left out of every conversation about the o-line? I wonder if he even wants to bother to show up.
          Barbre is a hell of an athlete. He had the second best OL workout at the combine ever (behind Bruce Campbell this year), and I'd be willing to bet his college tape was probably better than Campbell's (going to a DII school if it wasn't, he'd never have been drafted.) He's by all accounts a hard worker as well. The only reasons that he hasn't been able to succeed in the NFL to this point are all in his head. Not only is his technique shaky, and he's far from assignment sure, but the kid gets discouraged and responds to bad plays by playing worse. Our coaches have compounded the problem by trying to teach him multiple positions. It's not really clear whether he can handle one of the easy positions if that's all he has to focus on, let alone two at once.

          A really good OL coach might be able to take him on as a reclamation project, and shape him into a middle-of-the-road player. I don't think we have one of those though.
          Didn't Barbre come close to hitting the single digits on his Wonderlic? That might not be the be all end all measure of football intelligence but it sure ain't good.
          11, to be exact. For an offensive lineman, that's really low. It may say something about intelligence, but also something about his ability to maintain composure once he starts feeling pressure.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Joemailman
            Originally posted by hoosier
            Originally posted by Lurker64
            Originally posted by Fritz
            Doesn't Barbe seem left out of every conversation about the o-line? I wonder if he even wants to bother to show up.
            Barbre is a hell of an athlete. He had the second best OL workout at the combine ever (behind Bruce Campbell this year), and I'd be willing to bet his college tape was probably better than Campbell's (going to a DII school if it wasn't, he'd never have been drafted.) He's by all accounts a hard worker as well. The only reasons that he hasn't been able to succeed in the NFL to this point are all in his head. Not only is his technique shaky, and he's far from assignment sure, but the kid gets discouraged and responds to bad plays by playing worse. Our coaches have compounded the problem by trying to teach him multiple positions. It's not really clear whether he can handle one of the easy positions if that's all he has to focus on, let alone two at once.

            A really good OL coach might be able to take him on as a reclamation project, and shape him into a middle-of-the-road player. I don't think we have one of those though.
            Didn't Barbre come close to hitting the single digits on his Wonderlic? That might not be the be all end all measure of football intelligence but it sure ain't good.
            11, to be exact. For an offensive lineman, that's really low. It may say something about intelligence, but also something about his ability to maintain composure once he starts feeling pressure.
            Composure in test taking means remembering that when in doubt choose option "C".

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