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A sobering, yet hopeful story on the extent of what Harris is facing as he tries to come back from his injury. Most guys don't come back from this, but few are as tough as Al Harris. We'll see. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/95477594.html
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I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
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Regardless of how well he plays upon his return, my already-positive perception of Al Harris has gone way up this offseason. -
Amazing....what didn't he destroy in that knee?C.H.U.D.Comment
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Vince, I was thinking the same thing. That guy just kicks ass.Originally posted by vince
Dude might be great coaching material when the playing days are over, too."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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If he doesnt come back what the H do we do?Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.Comment
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Hope that either Pat Lee or Brandon Underwood can blossom into a capable nickel?Originally posted by Tony Oday
The real problem with the pass defense last year was not the dropoff from the #2 CB to the #3 CB at the beginning of the season, but the dropoff from he #3 to the #4. When one of the top 3 guys went down, we were in trouble. It's entirely possible that either Underwood or Lee could, at least, prove to be a more capable corner than Jarret Bush was last year.</delurk>Comment
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In 2008, Harris missed 6 games with a ruptured spleen. Tramon moved to CB and Blackmon moved to nickel. Opposing QB's had the following stats:
97-186, 986 yards, 7 TD's, 11 INT's. 135 points given up. Team was only 2-4 in that stretch, but it wasn't due to the pass defense. As Lurker points out, what matters is how well the guy replacing Trampn at nickel plays.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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how about 2009?Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.Comment
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In 2009, Bell, Bush and Underwood weren't good enough. Bell wasn't familiar with the defense, Underwood wasn't ready, and Bush just isn't good enough. This year looks better, assuming the Packers don't lose 3 CB's to season ending injuries again.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard CohenComment
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So you are saying we have one more year of seasoning with our guys and if Harris doesnt play we are ok? I would respectfully say we are as they say in Ebonics: We be F*cked.Originally posted by Joemailman
Of course since I say that Lee will be a freaking stud with Underwood rocking the dime and T will looking like Harris of old
Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.Comment
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He is saying that if Blackmon, Lee, AND Harris are all MIA then we be fucked.Originally posted by Tony OdaySo you are saying we have one more year of seasoning with our guys and if Harris doesnt play we are ok? I would respectfully say we are as they say in Ebonics: We be F*cked.Originally posted by Joemailman
Of course since I say that Lee will be a freaking stud with Underwood rocking the dime and T will looking like Harris of oldThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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lol I seeOriginally posted by bobbleheadHe is saying that if Blackmon, Lee, AND Harris are all MIA then we be fucked.Originally posted by Tony OdaySo you are saying we have one more year of seasoning with our guys and if Harris doesnt play we are ok? I would respectfully say we are as they say in Ebonics: We be F*cked.Originally posted by Joemailman
Of course since I say that Lee will be a freaking stud with Underwood rocking the dime and T will looking like Harris of old
All recovering from injuries
Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.Comment
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Well, to be fair, Pat Lee was totally recovered from his injury in early October. I'm pretty sure we just stashed him on IR so we didn't have to cut him, or somebody else to keep him.Originally posted by Tony Odaylol I see All recovering from injuries
Also, in terms of being F*cked as you say without better pass defense. We could just fix this if the offense takes another step forward. Last year against Pittsburgh and Arizona we showed we could keep up with teams in a shootout, we just were unsuccessful at scoring last in each of those games. That's presumably fixable.</delurk>Comment
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al's an inspiration. they don't come any tougher, classier, or more determined.
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That's exactly what happened. I recall reading somewhere that Lee was pretty bummed out about being on IR since he really didn't have one of "those kind" of injuries. It was just a numbers situation; unfortunate for him.Originally posted by Lurker64Well, to be fair, Pat Lee was totally recovered from his injury in early October. I'm pretty sure we just stashed him on IR so we didn't have to cut him, or somebody else to keep him.Originally posted by Tony Odaylol I see All recovering from injuries Comment
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