Packer Player Under Investigation In Sexual Assault

[Scott Campbell]

If Favre's name (at the beginning of his GBP career) were to be replaced with Underwood's, Mathews wouldn't have thrown him under a bus.

What was Clay supposed to say - he was only 6 years old at the time.

[Scott Campbell]

My line of thinking is what I said it is. If Favre's name (at the beginning of his GBP career) were to be replaced with Underwood's, Mathews wouldn't have thrown him under a bus.

Double standards.

And just to beat a dead horse to death, let's review what you've just done here.


1) You've created a fictional situation. (Favre hires hookers, and time machines)
2) You've projected a fictional reaction to the fictional situation. (Time machine Clay Mathews remains silent)
3) You then cast moral judgment on the fictional reaction to the fictional situation. (your double standards comment)


How DARE time traveling Clay Mathews have such a pretend reaction to such a hypothetical situation!

[Tarlam!]

SC, you're very clever, but obviously not clever enough to understand the comparison. Frankly, I don't give a toss.

My fork is in it.

[3irty1]

I remember hearing rumors about Favre cheating from people who saw him out in Green Bay but I must have missed all the real facts because I don't know anything about Favre's history with his wife.

If he really cheated and everyone knows it, it must have been in thet media right? Can anyone dig up a news story? Does she talk about it in her book? Where can I read more about this?

[ThunderDan]

I remember hearing rumors about Favre cheating from people who saw him out in Green Bay but I must have missed all the real facts because I don't know anything about Favre's history with his wife.

If he really cheated and everyone knows it, it must have been in thet media right? Can anyone dig up a news story? Does she talk about it in her book? Where can I read more about this?

I saw him on Water St in Milwaukee with Chewy mid 90s. Not Deanna. From behavior, kissing/groping, there is no doubt he was out and about.

[pbmax]

Whatever the case, Vince, all of your posts revolved around the possiblity of him doing it, not the possibility of him being innocent. Some people were on the opposite end.

Using the word "innocent" is a little strong for Underwood's involvement. The facts appear to indicate that the entire situation was put into motion because of his actions. He put himself into a situation that commonly has bad results, either immediately or belatedly. He multiplied it by two. He brought it to the doorsteps of six team mates.

But for Underwood, none of this would have happened.

"Innocent"? Hardly.

This.

[pbmax]

Favre's situation was different because off both the player he was AND the way he went about it.

No news organization was going to run the story while he was that successful AND was unmarried. I have no doubt that was purposeful (if not initially, then in over the course of time). As long as he stayed clear of violations of the law (or league rules), he was inoculated by his play and his status (single guy). The only time any of this got aired was when he was busted for Vicodin and after they went quasi public after she threatened to throw him out of the house or stop carousing. Its unclear for me if he ever stopped the cheating or drinking completely.

Tar is right that this is essentially BS and he should have been called on it much sooner. But MJ is right that in society currently, the only people in a position to complain and make a stink are his family (who would seem to have been enabling the behavior) and Deanna, who tolerated it (and thereby also enabled it). The team could not have cared less as long as he was not in the papers.

As a man, I have no idea how she tolerated it for so long. but there was a child involved and lots and lots of cash.

[pbmax]

GBPG's Demovsky has reported money was paid by Underwood to the women. This was prior to one of the women trying to increase their profitability while the other distracted him with the sales pitch.

[Scott Campbell]

I just went back in time to 1181, and Clay Mathews just called out Genghis Khan during his rookie year for raping and pillaging the village of Lake Delton, Mongolia. I'm not sure if charges were ever filed.



In unrelated news, McCarthy seems happy with his pad level.

[Bossman641]

I remember hearing rumors about Favre cheating from people who saw him out in Green Bay but I must have missed all the real facts because I don't know anything about Favre's history with his wife.

If he really cheated and everyone knows it, it must have been in thet media right? Can anyone dig up a news story? Does she talk about it in her book? Where can I read more about this?

I don't know any firsthand stories, but have heard the same rumors. It was a lot different then though - no 24 hour sports news, no cell phone cameras and videos to catch him in the act, no blogs to post those pictures on.

[bobblehead]

Moral equivalency arguments are pretty absurd. What Underwood did was wrong, and the matter still under consideration for solicitation charges being filed. And all of this has NOTHING to do with Bert whoring around 15 years ago. NOTHING.

T's line of thinking is headed right back to Harlan's "Would you shoot teens stealing beer out of your garage?"

I'd empty my clip and reload....what was the point again??

[Scott Campbell]

....what was the point again??

Exactly.

[Joemailman]

I remember hearing rumors about Favre cheating from people who saw him out in Green Bay but I must have missed all the real facts because I don't know anything about Favre's history with his wife.

If he really cheated and everyone knows it, it must have been in thet media right? Can anyone dig up a news story? Does she talk about it in her book? Where can I read more about this?

I don't know any firsthand stories, but have heard the same rumors. It was a lot different then though - no 24 hour sports news, no cell phone cameras and videos to catch him in the act, no blogs to post those pictures on.

Plus, being a starting NFL Quarterback, he didn't have to pay for it.

[Guiness]

All this talk.

I can't believe we don't have pictures of the grizzled vets yet!

THIS THREAD IS USELESS WITHOUT PICS!

[Joemailman]

All this talk.

I can't believe we don't have pictures of the grizzled vets yet!

THIS THREAD IS USELESS WITHOUT PICS!