"WOODSON PRAISES BURNETT

[Iron Mike]

Oops. Fucked up.

Don't worry......it's happened to all of us.

[packerbacker1234]

Oh bigby hits hard, forces a lot of fumbles, and gets a pick here and there - but he isn't ever on the field long enough every season for us to notice.

That is the problem. I am not saying he "isn't" able to make plays, it's just he can't stay healthy long enough for us to notice it. He has always been pretty good at laying the wood and causing some turmoil, while collins has strictly been a run support/int guy.

[Lurker64]

I want Bigby on the roster this year, I don't care whether he starts or not. If he does start week 1, he's going to miss time sooner or later due to injury, and as much as a lot of Packer fans dislike Bigby, he's better than Anthony Levine, Will Blackmon, Charlie or Peprah. Losing a safety for any length of time for this team has been disastrous.

[get louder at lambeau]

Oh bigby hits hard, forces a lot of fumbles, and gets a pick here and there - but he isn't ever on the field long enough every season for us to notice.

That is the problem. I am not saying he "isn't" able to make plays, it's just he can't stay healthy long enough for us to notice it. He has always been pretty good at laying the wood and causing some turmoil, while collins has strictly been a run support/int guy.

He has been injured quite a bit, but he still started 75% of the regular season games since he took over and started three of three playoff games. Considering that he was gimpy during many of those games, his turnover stats are amazing.

[SkinBasket]

Oh bigby hits hard, forces a lot of fumbles, and gets a pick here and there - but he isn't ever on the field long enough every season for us to notice.

That is the problem. I am not saying he "isn't" able to make plays, it's just he can't stay healthy long enough for us to notice it. He has always been pretty good at laying the wood and causing some turmoil, while collins has strictly been a run support/int guy.

He has been injured quite a bit, but he still started 75% of the regular season games since he took over and started three of three playoff games. Considering that he was gimpy during many of those games, his turnover stats are amazing.

When Ryan Leaf played against teams from cities that start with "D" in the month of November in years ending in 0, he was quite the play maker as well. As long as we're going to cherry pick selective, highly specific stats and declare a player pro bowl quality based on that, I think it would be remiss to exclude such greatness as Mr. Leaf.

[Joemailman]

Oh bigby hits hard, forces a lot of fumbles, and gets a pick here and there - but he isn't ever on the field long enough every season for us to notice.

That is the problem. I am not saying he "isn't" able to make plays, it's just he can't stay healthy long enough for us to notice it. He has always been pretty good at laying the wood and causing some turmoil, while collins has strictly been a run support/int guy.

He has been injured quite a bit, but he still started 75% of the regular season games since he took over and started three of three playoff games. Considering that he was gimpy during many of those games, his turnover stats are amazing.

When Ryan Leaf played against teams from cities that start with "D" in the month of November in years ending in 0, he was quite the play maker as well. As long as we're going to cherry pick selective, highly specific stats and declare a player pro bowl quality based on that, I think it would be remiss to exclude such greatness as Mr. Leaf.

Well then, at least we know that Bigby should have a great game when the Packers play Dallas on November 7 2010.

[rbaloha1]

AB 2009 Grade from JS

Atari Bigby: Workmanlike strong safety whom the Packers will always be trying to replace. Allowed 4½ of his five TD passes from Weeks 7-10 but played much better down the stretch. Tries to be physical but lacks the range to reach a lot of plays. Better near the line of scrimmage; however, 16 players registered a tackle for loss and he didn't have any. Grade: C

MB is the starter.

[get louder at lambeau]

Oh bigby hits hard, forces a lot of fumbles, and gets a pick here and there - but he isn't ever on the field long enough every season for us to notice.

That is the problem. I am not saying he "isn't" able to make plays, it's just he can't stay healthy long enough for us to notice it. He has always been pretty good at laying the wood and causing some turmoil, while collins has strictly been a run support/int guy.

He has been injured quite a bit, but he still started 75% of the regular season games since he took over and started three of three playoff games. Considering that he was gimpy during many of those games, his turnover stats are amazing.

When Ryan Leaf played against teams from cities that start with "D" in the month of November in years ending in 0, he was quite the play maker as well. As long as we're going to cherry pick selective, highly specific stats and declare a player pro bowl quality based on that, I think it would be remiss to exclude such greatness as Mr. Leaf.

The only criteria were turnovers caused in games started. Ryan Leaf may have caused his share of tunrovers per game he started too, but that is hardly cherry picking stats.

[SkinBasket]

Oh bigby hits hard, forces a lot of fumbles, and gets a pick here and there - but he isn't ever on the field long enough every season for us to notice.

That is the problem. I am not saying he "isn't" able to make plays, it's just he can't stay healthy long enough for us to notice it. He has always been pretty good at laying the wood and causing some turmoil, while collins has strictly been a run support/int guy.

He has been injured quite a bit, but he still started 75% of the regular season games since he took over and started three of three playoff games. Considering that he was gimpy during many of those games, his turnover stats are amazing.

When Ryan Leaf played against teams from cities that start with "D" in the month of November in years ending in 0, he was quite the play maker as well. As long as we're going to cherry pick selective, highly specific stats and declare a player pro bowl quality based on that, I think it would be remiss to exclude such greatness as Mr. Leaf.

Well then, at least we know that Bigby should have a great game when the Packers play Dallas on November 7 2010.

Nice catch. Is Leaf still available/alive?

[Lurker64]

Oh bigby hits hard, forces a lot of fumbles, and gets a pick here and there - but he isn't ever on the field long enough every season for us to notice.

That is the problem. I am not saying he "isn't" able to make plays, it's just he can't stay healthy long enough for us to notice it. He has always been pretty good at laying the wood and causing some turmoil, while collins has strictly been a run support/int guy.

He has been injured quite a bit, but he still started 75% of the regular season games since he took over and started three of three playoff games. Considering that he was gimpy during many of those games, his turnover stats are amazing.

When Ryan Leaf played against teams from cities that start with "D" in the month of November in years ending in 0, he was quite the play maker as well. As long as we're going to cherry pick selective, highly specific stats and declare a player pro bowl quality based on that, I think it would be remiss to exclude such greatness as Mr. Leaf.

Well then, at least we know that Bigby should have a great game when the Packers play Dallas on November 7 2010.

Nice catch. Is Leaf still available/alive?

He's alive, but he's got some Legal Issues hanging over his head.

[SkinBasket]

How do you end up in legal trouble when your lawyer has a faux hawk?

[get louder at lambeau]

How do you end up in legal trouble when your lawyer has a faux hawk?

Judging by his haircut and the fact that he is staring at Ryan's haircut in that photo, I think that might be his stylist, not his lawyer.

[Guiness]

Love the last line of the article -

He threw for 3,666 yards and 14 touchdowns in his career.

Only mention the TDs!

So, does Russel supplant RL as the biggest bust?

[Joemailman]

Love the last line of the article -

He threw for 3,666 yards and 14 touchdowns in his career.

Only mention the TDs!

So, does Russel supplant RL as the biggest bust?

Considering he reportedly weighed about 300 this year, I'd say so.

[get louder at lambeau]

Love the last line of the article -

He threw for 3,666 yards and 14 touchdowns in his career.

Only mention the TDs!

So, does Russel supplant RL as the biggest bust?

Considering he reportedly weighed about 300 this year, I'd say so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-cT58rgNc