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    I'm going back to Vegas in a couple of days for a week... I wanna put a prop bet on a couple teams to win the superbowl...

    Who would you have your money on???

    I'm thinking ....

    Packers / Saints - NFC

    Ravens / Jets - AFC

    I know the colts / chargers are probably favored to win the AFC but I have a funny feeling about the two AFC teams I listed above... Who would you put? Maybe i'll do a packerrats prop bet

    Potential Teams:

    Indianapolis 13/2
    Dallas 8/1
    New Orleans 8/1
    San Diego 17/2
    New England 9/1
    Green Bay 19/2
    N.Y. Jets 10/1
    Minnesota 11/1
    Ravens 14/1

  • #2
    I always believe that barring some big personnel changes you have to go with the axiom of "have to beat the champ to be the champ". So for now I'd say:

    NFCC Vikes and Saints
    AFCC Colts and Jets
    SB Colts and Saints
    Saints win.

    If I had to change anything there, I might have to remove the Saints as I think the stars were aligned for them last year. I could see Dal or GB in their place. Although I don't think Dal has enough to win SB.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mngolf19
      I always believe that barring some big personnel changes you have to go with the axiom of "have to beat the champ to be the champ". So for now I'd say:

      NFCC Vikes and Saints
      AFCC Colts and Jets
      SB Colts and Saints
      Saints win.

      If I had to change anything there, I might have to remove the Saints as I think the stars were aligned for them last year. I could see Dal or GB in their place. Although I don't think Dal has enough to win SB.
      I would not only bet the farm against this scenario repeating, I would bet my neighbor's farm as well.

      NFCC: Dallas vs GB
      AFCC: NYJ vs Balt
      SB: GB vs Balt

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      • #4
        SD? Really?

        I don't see it. Their window is past, and for whatever reason, they missed it. I know they're still a top team, but they're on the downside of their run now, and they're not going to make it happen.
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        Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by hoosier
          Originally posted by mngolf19
          I always believe that barring some big personnel changes you have to go with the axiom of "have to beat the champ to be the champ". So for now I'd say:

          NFCC Vikes and Saints
          AFCC Colts and Jets
          SB Colts and Saints
          Saints win.

          If I had to change anything there, I might have to remove the Saints as I think the stars were aligned for them last year. I could see Dal or GB in their place. Although I don't think Dal has enough to win SB.
          I would not only bet the farm against this scenario repeating, I would bet my neighbor's farm as well.

          NFCC: Dallas vs GB
          AFCC: NYJ vs Balt
          SB: GB vs Balt
          thats the socialist attitude I know and love....but seriously I agree with you.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #6
            Go for the big payout:

            TB / Detroit
            Oakland / Cleveland

            Hey, it's not my money, what do I care
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            • #7
              Originally posted by mngolf19
              I always believe that barring some big personnel changes you have to go with the axiom of "have to beat the champ to be the champ". So for now I'd say:

              NFCC Vikes and Saints
              AFCC Colts and Jets
              SB Colts and Saints
              Saints win.

              If I had to change anything there, I might have to remove the Saints as I think the stars were aligned for them last year. I could see Dal or GB in their place. Although I don't think Dal has enough to win SB.
              Recent history suggests that in the NFC, the champ will fall. Not since 1992-1994 have the same two teams (49ers, Cowboys) met in consecutive NFC Title Games. Not since 1996-1997 has a team (Packers) won consecutive NFC Titles.
              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bobblehead
                Originally posted by hoosier
                Originally posted by mngolf19
                I always believe that barring some big personnel changes you have to go with the axiom of "have to beat the champ to be the champ". So for now I'd say:

                NFCC Vikes and Saints
                AFCC Colts and Jets
                SB Colts and Saints
                Saints win.

                If I had to change anything there, I might have to remove the Saints as I think the stars were aligned for them last year. I could see Dal or GB in their place. Although I don't think Dal has enough to win SB.
                I would not only bet the farm against this scenario repeating, I would bet my neighbor's farm as well.

                NFCC: Dallas vs GB
                AFCC: NYJ vs Balt
                SB: GB vs Balt
                thats the socialist attitude I know and love....but seriously I agree with you.
                Can I bet my ranch in Crawford?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hoosier
                  NFCC: Dallas vs GB
                  AFCC: NYJ vs Balt
                  SB: GB vs Balt
                  Dallas won't make the conference championship game. It'll likely be the Saints once again, having defeated the Vikings in the divisional round the week before. Dallas probably wins the east, but falls in the WC round to the Vikings who won't win the North this year but will be a very formidable WC opponent.

                  And it's a complete toss up between the Jets and Colts to face the Ravens in the AFC.

                  But your SB prediction is spot on. Packers v Ravens, Feb. 6 2011, Cowboys Stadium in Arlington. That's what I'd put my money on anyway.
                  Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gunakor
                    Originally posted by hoosier
                    NFCC: Dallas vs GB
                    AFCC: NYJ vs Balt
                    SB: GB vs Balt
                    Dallas won't make the conference championship game. It'll likely be the Saints once again, having defeated the Vikings in the divisional round the week before. Dallas probably wins the east, but falls in the WC round to the Vikings who won't win the North this year but will be a very formidable WC opponent.

                    And it's a complete toss up between the Jets and Colts to face the Ravens in the AFC.

                    But your SB prediction is spot on. Packers v Ravens, Feb. 6 2011, Cowboys Stadium in Arlington. That's what I'd put my money on anyway.
                    I have a hard time imagining the Saints in the NFC championship game again. In the free agency era very few teams have been able to make repeat appearances in championship games. I think that shows that, except in cases where one team is really overwhelmingly superior to its competition (eg New England from 2003-07), things really have to fall into place in order to make it through the regular season and playoffs. The Saints' talent does not stand out head and shoulders above GB, Minn, Dallas and Atl, and my gut feeling is that they will have a very difficult time reproducing last year's success.

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                    • #11
                      I said they'd make it, but they won't win. It could be a situation like the Eagles recently. If I remember correctly, they made it to the championship game some 3 or 4 straight times, only winning once and eventually losing in the SB.

                      You don't have to be the best to be a regular participant in the championship game. 2nd best will do. And I'm pretty confident that the Saints are still 2nd best at the very least. They might have been a little lucky to have won the SB last year, but it wasn't luck that got them into the conference championship game. And no 2 teams in the NFC have improved enough to knock them out of playing in that game again IMO.
                      Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Guiness
                        SD? Really?

                        I don't see it. Their window is past, and for whatever reason, they missed it. I know they're still a top team, but they're on the downside of their run now, and they're not going to make it happen.
                        I thought the same thing of the NY Giants a few years ago. Barber left, Toomer and Strahan were getting older. I thought it was going to be hard to replace those guys. Strahan ended up having a great year. Jacobs turned out to be fantastic and Burris ended up having the best year of his career at WR.

                        I happen to agree with you on SD being on the downside, but if Merriman plays out of his mind, Matthews becomes a star at RB and a few stars align, they could end up like the Giants a couple years ago.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Guiness
                          SD? Really?

                          I don't see it. Their window is past, and for whatever reason, they missed it. I know they're still a top team, but they're on the downside of their run now, and they're not going to make it happen.
                          Agreed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gunakor
                            I said they'd make it, but they won't win. It could be a situation like the Eagles recently. If I remember correctly, they made it to the championship game some 3 or 4 straight times, only winning once and eventually losing in the SB.

                            You don't have to be the best to be a regular participant in the championship game. 2nd best will do. And I'm pretty confident that the Saints are still 2nd best at the very least. They might have been a little lucky to have won the SB last year, but it wasn't luck that got them into the conference championship game. And no 2 teams in the NFC have improved enough to knock them out of playing in that game again IMO.
                            That's my take as well. And NO isn't going to have much of a challenge in their div. Dal wins theirs easily as well. Who cares from the west. So really you have Dal, MN, GB, and NO. 3 of those are turf teams with 2 likely to have gaudy win/loss records and home field advantage + bye. MN and NO as a repeat in the NFCC is better than a 50/50 chance. My opinion.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                              Originally posted by Guiness
                              SD? Really?

                              I don't see it. Their window is past, and for whatever reason, they missed it. I know they're still a top team, but they're on the downside of their run now, and they're not going to make it happen.
                              I thought the same thing of the NY Giants a few years ago. Barber left, Toomer and Strahan were getting older. I thought it was going to be hard to replace those guys. Strahan ended up having a great year. Jacobs turned out to be fantastic and Burris ended up having the best year of his career at WR.

                              I happen to agree with you on SD being on the downside, but if Merriman plays out of his mind, Matthews becomes a star at RB and a few stars align, they could end up like the Giants a couple years ago.
                              Possibly. But I think they squandered their chance with LT having so many consecutive great years. When Rivers showed up, there was no reason they couldn't get it done - like those years with Favre and Green, except SD had a kick-ass defense as well.
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                              Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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