Jolly Suspended Indefinitely

[Lurker64]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/98625354.html

We won't have him at least for the 2010 season, and it's not certain we'll ever see him in Green and Gold again. Still, we got four pretty productive seasons from a 6th round pick, which is fine.

Makes the roster crunch on the D-Line a little less dramatic. We now have 2 spots available for Harrell, Wilson, Wynn, Toribio, and Talley. Rotation on game days should be Jenkins, Raji, Pickett, Neal, and one of the previously mentioned four.

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so to me this doesn't sound like it's related to his ongoing court case

it almost sounds like he failed a drug test

it'll be a big loss because he's a good player, but it sure seemed like during the draft that TT was planning on him being suspended for something when he loaded up on D-line talent

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

This is a big loss. Jolly is a good palyer and seems to always play hard. To bad he can't get his shit off the field together. Small chance, but hopefully Harrell plays this year.

[Lurker64]

so to me this doesn't sound like it's related to his ongoing court case

it almost sounds like he failed a drug test

it'll be a big loss because he's a good player, but it sure seemed like during the draft that TT was planning on him being suspended for something when he loaded up on D-line talent

My guess is that the NFL did some research into the prosecutor's claims that they had a witness who would implicate him much deeper in the drug trade than just the kid who got his lean on as it originally seemed. If they found anything substantive there, I could definitely see them being in a hurry to suspend him. Since if it comes to light that he smuggled 25 kilos of coke form Mexico in his large intestine, or something, the NFL doesn't want to have that guy on an active roster when that comes to light.

But yeah, I really think that Thompson approached the offseason thinking that it was unlikely that Jolly would be back. Pickett moving to DE in part was probably because the team termed Raji as close to ready, and part because they needed a starter calibre guy there. Spending a premium pick on a long, strong DT in one of the best years in recent memory (perhaps ever) for talent at DT seems like a pretty good move in retrospect, and the Wilson pick in the 7th is now more of a relief than a head scratcher.

My prediction is that they keep Raji, Jenkins, Pickett, Neal, Wilson, and Wynn on the 53 man. Outside chance of Talley or Harrell though, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

[Scott Campbell]

so to me this doesn't sound like it's related to his ongoing court case

it almost sounds like he failed a drug test

it'll be a big loss because he's a good player, but it sure seemed like during the draft that TT was planning on him being suspended for something when he loaded up on D-line talent

An indefinite suspension makes it sound like he failed more than one drug test.

[boiga]

Or that he was dealing, or financing dealing. That'd do it.

I hope this witness is full of crap because I liked Jolly as a player. That kind of allegation is to a Mike Vick level of douchebaggery though.

This certainly makes this years draft look gold, doesn't it? Mike Neal and Morgan Burnett could both be major steals at otherwise weak positions.

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after reading a couple other little articles, it almost sounds like jolly is some kind of drug czar.

i haven't followed the case closely at all, all i knew was that he got busted with the codeine. it sounds like there's also proof that he was funding and/or distributing coke and weed from 2006 to 2008

so it sure seems like his drug empire was a lot bigger then just the purple drank

and if that is the case he needs to be completely removed from this team

[RashanGary]

I'm surprised and disappointed.


That flier with Jolly's picture on it, what a friggin retard. And I wouldn't be shocked if he talked to Goodell or someone else in the NFL and lied.

That suspension is an attention getter. Whatever their reasoning, they're sending a message here. It's too bad the Packers have to suffer for it. It's really too bad because if we're going to be great, having a deep DL was going to be a big part of that. Hopefully we have decent health and Neal pans out.

Shit, this just stinks. Do we extend Jenkins now? After this year, we could have trouble if we don't have Jenkins.

[Scott Campbell]

Our D is now down 2 starters from last years defense. Hopefully Al makes it back at some point, but I wouldn't count on Jolly ever playing for us again.

[packrulz]

Jolly is talented but needs to grow up and lose his posse.

[pbmax]

La Canfora on NFL Network says the suspension flows from the Drug and Alcohol policy, not from Personal Conduct.

Campbell is right, he would need to have failed 3 drug tests (one of which would still be under wraps and another that should have suspended him for 4 games) to be suspended a year. And that doesn't even cover the indefinite part.

Originally, the fact the the prosecutor was bringing forth an incarcerated witness for the penalty portion of Jolly's trial seemed like piling on before the fact. Apparently, the NFL found something it was troubled by.

He seems especially stupid, in hindsight, not to have just pled the thing out, take the suspension and get back into the league. Unless he knew there was more to be found. Seems odd that a man previously unidentified by the Houston PD is now being accused of essentially dealing.

[boiga]

I think I've been mentally preparing myself for this all summer, otherwise I'd be more upset.

It also helps that ProFootballFocus rated jolly as the worst player on our defense last year on a down by down basis.

http://profootballfocus.com/cstats.php?tab=by_team&season=2009&teamid=12&stats=d&stype=a&playerid=

He's an odd player in that he had only half the QB pressures of Cullen Jenkins, but he did bat down 10 passes. I'm not sure if that makes him a playmaker or a gimmick player.

Then again, I might simply be trying to console myself over the fact that he will be kicked off the team.

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Lori Nickel offers this helpful tidbit in the JSO Packer Blog.

Lori Nickel-JSO[/b]]The usual progression for such a suspension is four games, then eight for the next violation and then the season, but it is possible Jolly had such violations and they never became public.

Yes, Lori. Jolly had previously been suspended for a total of twelve games. But no one noticed.

Plus, I think she has this wrong. The third failure/second suspension should be for a year, shouldn't it?

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The follicle test. Done in by your own hair! How did I forget that?

GBPG[/b]]In a May court hearing, prosecutor Todd Keagle asked state District Judge Mike Anderson to raise Jolly's bond and order he undergo additional drug testing after finding the football player's picture on a flier saying he hosted a May 7 party at a Houston nightclub.

As I recall, the judge did order the testing.

And by the way, the Green Bay Press Gazette's Packer website looks horrible.