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  • Originally posted by Fritz
    Also, didn't Jolly's attorney swear they were going to go to court and beat the rap because his client was innocent?
    Essentially, they did beat it by this plea deal. All Jolly has to do is stay out of trouble for 12 months and the charge will be dropped, apparently. He stays clean, he has no record at all. That's better than a charge, trial and not guilty verdict. He has no "risk" in this deal, it's all up to him, not the uncertainty of a trial.

    Makes me wonder why the prosecutor dragged this out so long. To agree to this, the prosecutor must have been fairly sure they would lose.

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    • Originally posted by Patler
      Originally posted by Fritz
      Also, didn't Jolly's attorney swear they were going to go to court and beat the rap because his client was innocent?
      Essentially, they did beat it by this plea deal. All Jolly has to do is stay out of trouble for 12 months and the charge will be dropped, apparently. He stays clean, he has no record at all. That's better than a charge, trial and not guilty verdict. He has no "risk" in this deal, it's all up to him, not the uncertainty of a trial.

      Makes me wonder why the prosecutor dragged this out so long. To agree to this, the prosecutor must have been fairly sure they would lose.
      Either that or the court system is bogged down right now with bigger cases so they decided to plea this one out. I work in law enforcement so I'm pretty familiar with how this works. Our DA is only allowed to take so many cases to trial each month, and if it gets bogged down he has to pick and choose which ones to plea out and which ones to take to trial.
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      • Originally posted by imscott72
        Originally posted by Patler
        Originally posted by Fritz
        Also, didn't Jolly's attorney swear they were going to go to court and beat the rap because his client was innocent?
        Essentially, they did beat it by this plea deal. All Jolly has to do is stay out of trouble for 12 months and the charge will be dropped, apparently. He stays clean, he has no record at all. That's better than a charge, trial and not guilty verdict. He has no "risk" in this deal, it's all up to him, not the uncertainty of a trial.

        Makes me wonder why the prosecutor dragged this out so long. To agree to this, the prosecutor must have been fairly sure they would lose.
        Either that or the court system is bogged down right now with bigger cases so they decided to plea this one out. I work in law enforcement so I'm pretty familiar with how this works. Our DA is only allowed to take so many cases to trial each month, and if it gets bogged down he has to pick and choose which ones to plea out and which ones to take to trial.
        Who says the prosecutor dragged this out? The delays are by all reports standard for Houston courts. The plea could have been done at any time, but Jolly didn't want the suspension that would come with it. Now that he is already suspended for a year (or more) it doesn't matter too much so he can take the plea.
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        • It's called a suspended sentence and I had one for a year. Basically, if you get in trouble for anything else within that year, you could be subject to penalty from the previous crime in addition to whatever you just got arrested for.

          Beats the alternative and usually/hopefully an eye opener for the guy. I changed just about everything after that and it's worked out wonderfully. Shortcut money just isn't worth it.

          Wonder if he can turn it around...

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          • Originally posted by imscott72
            Originally posted by Patler
            Originally posted by Fritz
            Also, didn't Jolly's attorney swear they were going to go to court and beat the rap because his client was innocent?
            Essentially, they did beat it by this plea deal. All Jolly has to do is stay out of trouble for 12 months and the charge will be dropped, apparently. He stays clean, he has no record at all. That's better than a charge, trial and not guilty verdict. He has no "risk" in this deal, it's all up to him, not the uncertainty of a trial.

            Makes me wonder why the prosecutor dragged this out so long. To agree to this, the prosecutor must have been fairly sure they would lose.
            Either that or the court system is bogged down right now with bigger cases so they decided to plea this one out. I work in law enforcement so I'm pretty familiar with how this works. Our DA is only allowed to take so many cases to trial each month, and if it gets bogged down he has to pick and choose which ones to plea out and which ones to take to trial.
            Ya, but they way they charged this it was a big deal to them, and the plea deal is a complete win for Jolly if he lives up to the requirements for just 1 year. It's very favorable to Jolly.

            All DAs plea out cases, starting with the ones they doubt they can win. After that they work deals where each side recognizes the risk of losing at trial, so each side gives up something. Jolly didn't give up much, if anything, in this deal, which makes it look like the DA saw it as a loser.

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            • This seems to me like justice served. This has been an extremely costly experience for Johnny - much more so than the average drankard off the street. Further, he WILL change his lifestyle and help serve the community or he will find himself in jail and out of football forever.

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              • For the voyeur in me this is disappointing. I was hoping to get a look at what kind of evidence the state actually had. There's been so much speculation around this case. It could have been three guys sitting in a car outside the club talking about girls.

                Or maybe it was a conspiratorial meeting of players in the drug underworld outside of a murderous den of thieves. Now we'll never know. And we're not going to know what he got suspended for, if it was related. And we haven't even seen pictures of the women that Brandon Underwood got in trouble with. It's just a sad day for Packer Tabloid journalism.

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                • Too bad he failed the drug test, or else he'd probably be contributing to the team this fall; I'm guessing this wouldn't have resulted in a suspension, only a warning.

                  Hopefully the young guys can step up; I think Jolly was a big part of our success last year.
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