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  • Vikings To Be This Years Titans?

    Most people have the Vikings contending for a Superbowl this year, and rightfully so after their terrific season that was ultimately ruined by Bert's pick to Tracy Porter. But like us they have a much more difficult schedule. And unlike us, they are betting everything on a 41 year old to defy father time for one more season.

    Look what happened to the Titans last year with them coming off the leagues best record and Kerry Collins coming off a Pro Bowl season. When it finally goes, it can go fast. I'm not saying it's Brett's time yet, but he is 41 years old and it shouldn't surprise anyone if it's his time to wilt. The Titans waited until they were 0-6 to acknowledge that something was wrong, and by then it was too late. I'm not sure anyone in that Vikings organization has enough of a spine to bench an 0-6 Bert. He is bigger than the team.

    Like most everyone else, I expect the Vikings to contend this year - much like the Packers. But unlike the Packers, I think the Vikings are also capable of finishing sub .500. How much fun would that be?

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    The main culprit in the Titans' collapse last year was the defense, and especially the pass defense. Collins was bad, but they certainly don't lose their first six games with a Chris Johnson-led offense if the D is playing the way it did in 2008. That, IMO, is where the comparison is faulty: if Bert were to revert to his 2005-2006 form, the Vikings still have a solid defense to complement their running game. Even if Favre's play declines they can still be a ball control team and finish over 500.

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    • #3
      I'm guessing the Saints have a better chance of being last year's Titans.

      And do this year's Titans have a chance to be last year's Titans?
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #4
        I think the parallels are pretty amazing. Old geezer QB coming off a great season. One of the best running backs in the league.

        And then you look at that Viking schedule.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
          I think the parallels are pretty amazing. Old geezer QB coming off a great season. One of the best running backs in the league.

          And then you look at that Viking schedule.
          If anyone can make it happen, it would be Brad Childress.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sharpe1027
            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
            I think the parallels are pretty amazing. Old geezer QB coming off a great season. One of the best running backs in the league.

            And then you look at that Viking schedule.
            If anyone can make it happen, it would be Brad Childress.
            Based on?

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            • #7
              Re: Vikings To Be This Years Titans?

              Originally posted by Scott Campbell
              Most people have the Vikings contending for a Superbowl this year, and rightfully so after their terrific season that was ultimately ruined by Bert's pick to Tracy Porter. But like us they have a much more difficult schedule. And unlike us, they are betting everything on a 41 year old to defy father time for one more season.

              Look what happened to the Titans last year with them coming off the leagues best record and Kerry Collins coming off a Pro Bowl season. When it finally goes, it can go fast. I'm not saying it's Brett's time yet, but he is 41 years old and it shouldn't surprise anyone if it's his time to wilt. The Titans waited until they were 0-6 to acknowledge that something was wrong, and by then it was too late. I'm not sure anyone in that Vikings organization has enough of a spine to bench an 0-6 Bert. He is bigger than the team.

              Like most everyone else, I expect the Vikings to contend this year - much like the Packers. But unlike the Packers, I think the Vikings are also capable of finishing sub .500. How much fun would that be?
              I think there would have to be multiple key injuries for them to finish below .500. Which would make them like any other team then in that respect. As has been said, they have a def that will win them games. And they made the playoffs with TJack and more of a running game so I'm confident in finishing above .500. OL will be better this year, AP will be replaced in short order if the fumbling continues, Chilly will take out BF if he becomes a glaring liability. That last part obviously is subjective so some will argue when the right time is.

              If not for a division I think is suspect, I would say NO the most likely candidate to be this year's Titans. Although for some reason I could see NYJ struggle this year too if teams figure out ways to play them.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fritz
                And do this year's Titans have a chance to be last year's Titans?
                They would have to finish 2-14, but then they wouldn't be the Titans at all. Why not? Because they would be the Browns.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mngolf19
                  Originally posted by sharpe1027
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  I think the parallels are pretty amazing. Old geezer QB coming off a great season. One of the best running backs in the league.

                  And then you look at that Viking schedule.
                  If anyone can make it happen, it would be Brad Childress.
                  Based on?
                  Brad Childress. I contend, and just about every Vikings fan I know tends to agree, that Vikings success is mostly attributable to Spielman. Not that this necessarily makes true, but the Vikings talk shows constantly complain about him even when they are winning.

                  Regardless, Childress comes across as a pompous jackhole that has an inflated view of his own importance. This is coming from someone that initially wanted him to succeed because of his link to the Badgers.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    I think the parallels are pretty amazing. Old geezer QB coming off a great season. One of the best running backs in the league.

                    And then you look at that Viking schedule.
                    Haynesworth had a great season for the Titans two years ago. Last year the Titans D ranked last or near last in pass D through the first half of the season. The Vikins pass rush is still in tact which will help with the instability at CB.

                    Peterson and Johnson are two totally different backs.

                    I think a years worth of tape in the 3-4 for opposing teams to study, the loss of Jolly, possible loss of Harris, rookie safety, and probable game planning around Matthews may make the Packers more prone to a slide from last year.
                    Minnesota Vikings
                    NFC North Champions 2008 and 2009.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mngolf19
                      Originally posted by sharpe1027
                      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                      I think the parallels are pretty amazing. Old geezer QB coming off a great season. One of the best running backs in the league.

                      And then you look at that Viking schedule.
                      If anyone can make it happen, it would be Brad Childress.
                      Based on?

                      His legendary status as the Vikings 12th man...............



                      .............in the huddle.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
                        I think a years worth of tape in the 3-4 for opposing teams to study, the loss of Jolly, possible loss of Harris, rookie safety, and probable game planning around Matthews may make the Packers more prone to a slide from last year.
                        Packers went from the worst OL I have ever seen to being decent. The improvements there should alone improve an already very good offense. On defense, you can have all the tape you want. Capers continually added twists to the defense as the year went on. I expect them to be even better this season as the players become more accustomed and we get 3 DBs back from injury. The DL should be okay - the loss of Jolly will be offset by the gains of Raji and Neal.

                        What have the Vikes done? The williams wall is a year older. They drafted a raw CB. They lost a very good RB and replaced with a rookie. Their QB played the season of his career, not sure you can expect that again.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cheesner
                          Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
                          I think a years worth of tape in the 3-4 for opposing teams to study, the loss of Jolly, possible loss of Harris, rookie safety, and probable game planning around Matthews may make the Packers more prone to a slide from last year.
                          Packers went from the worst OL I have ever seen to being decent. The improvements there should alone improve an already very good offense. On defense, you can have all the tape you want. Capers continually added twists to the defense as the year went on. I expect them to be even better this season as the players become more accustomed and we get 3 DBs back from injury. The DL should be okay - the loss of Jolly will be offset by the gains of Raji and Neal.

                          What have the Vikes done? The williams wall is a year older. They drafted a raw CB. They lost a very good RB and replaced with a rookie. Their QB played the season of his career, not sure you can expect that again.
                          Every coordinator adds twists. Caper's D has traditionally fared worse in their second year than they did in their first.

                          The Williams are a year older like all players in the NFL, they signed a veteran CB, Chestor Taylor is on the downside of his career, the Viking's O line was banged up all year, and is healthier than it has been since 2008.
                          Minnesota Vikings
                          NFC North Champions 2008 and 2009.

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                          • #14
                            My guess for the team who is going to nosedive this year is the Pats. It won't be as far a fall as the Titans, since the Pats were only 10-6 last year, but I could easily see them finishing below .500 and third in their division.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sharpe1027
                              Originally posted by mngolf19
                              Originally posted by sharpe1027
                              Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                              I think the parallels are pretty amazing. Old geezer QB coming off a great season. One of the best running backs in the league.

                              And then you look at that Viking schedule.
                              If anyone can make it happen, it would be Brad Childress.
                              Based on?
                              Brad Childress. I contend, and just about every Vikings fan I know tends to agree, that Vikings success is mostly attributable to Spielman. Not that this necessarily makes true, but the Vikings talk shows constantly complain about him even when they are winning.

                              Regardless, Childress comes across as a pompous jackhole that has an inflated view of his own importance. This is coming from someone that initially wanted him to succeed because of his link to the Badgers.
                              I know of lots of those same dumbass fans as well. This wouldn't be the first time, or place that you will find fans that take a position and hold onto it regardless of the evidence to the contrary. If they don't like the guy, they'll bash him no matter if he wins the SB or not. And most people who call into talk shows fall into this extremist category. You know, the idiots who say I hope they lose so he gets fired.

                              Whether he is a pompous jackhole or not, I don't care as long as he wins and keeps troublemakers off the team. Which he seems to be doing. Lots of nice guys out there that lose, plenty of jackholes who win. Denny Green was one too. But I'll take Childress 10 times over compared to Denny. And Denny over anyone who lost.

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