Dez Bryant

[Brandon494]

Brandon has a rookie boner. If it doesn't go down in 4 hours, see a doctor. Or Brandon Underwood. He'll set you up.

I have a rookie "boner" for Burnett, I just don't understand all he hate towards Dez.

It is simple really. He's a jackass. I see it today, you'll see it in a couple of years along with the rest of the world. No problem.

so he is a jackass for not carrying pads? What else has he done that earns him the title of a jackass or douche? He is a 21 year old kid who came from a troubled background who did not realize rookie hazing and took it as a shot to his man hood from a guy he is competing with for a starting job.

[Freak Out]

I hope that Dez and Roy fight like spoiled little bitches in camp and the Cowboys suck donkey balls this season.

[sharpe1027]

so he is a jackass for not carrying pads? What else has he done that earns him the title of a jackass or douche? He is a 21 year old kid who came from a troubled background who did not realize rookie hazing and took it as a shot to his man hood from a guy he is competing with for a starting job.

This whole thing is very overblown. But, IMHO, he is still a jackass for thinking he is above doing what every other rookie was asked to do.

Every jackass has a personal justification for why they act like a jackass. That doesn't make them any less of a jackass. A jackass is not less of a jackass because of his age, although younger jackasses are arguably more common.

[LP]

so he is a jackass for not carrying pads? What else has he done that earns him the title of a jackass or douche? He is a 21 year old kid who came from a troubled background who did not realize rookie hazing and took it as a shot to his man hood from a guy he is competing with for a starting job.

Seeing as how he is a first round draft pick and has been hanging with Deion Sanders, one would assume he knows just a wee bit about what would happen when he got to camp.

Of course if you want to believe the ultra slim possibility that he didn't realize, then all the more reason for him to shut his mouth, open his ears and do as he is told.

[Zool]

I hope that Dez and Roy fight like spoiled little bitches in camp and the Cowboys suck donkey balls this season.

Its been quite a day for donkey genitals.

[mission]

I hope that Dez and Roy fight like spoiled little bitches in camp and the Cowboys suck donkey balls this season.

Its been quite a day for donkey genitals.

Great Bubbles avatar... my wife and I love that show.

[NewsBruin]

Unfortunately, the story's blown over. Roy Williams says everything's cool; Bryant's said he didn't know it was a tradition and he'd be happy to carry all of Williams' gear "down to the tights." Show's over; nothing to see folks...

If you believe that it was just a misunderstanding, then you probably believe every time a football player says he's in the best shape of his career and feels better than ever this offseason.

When I read about it, my initial thoughts echoed SI's Ross Tucker: this was the beginning of mind games between Williams and Bryant. They both know what each other has done in their respective 2009 seasons and they know they're each other's competition. I doubt it's pure ignorant jackassery on Bryant's part (although it's always fun to believe that), but targeted chippiness and obstinance.

I'm sure even the Cowboys' coaches and players are smirking about it once the reporters drive off.

I hope that Dez and Roy fight like spoiled little bitches in camp and the Cowboys suck donkey balls this season.

I'll drink to that hope.

[twoseven]

Bryant is being an idiot for not going through the minor hazing like most will have done, he looks bad for not toeing the line and just doing it. But, I wonder how he would have reacted to say Miles Austin telling him to carry his pads versus the guy he is most likely going to beat out one day doing it. Bryant really fucked up. He could have outplayed Williams on and off the field but he failed this test becuase he couldn't sidestep his own and Roy's ego.

I do not agree that just anyone should be able to get in Bryant's business concerning how he handles himself. Should the punter or kicker have the right to toss their shit at another player's feet that actually takes a hit for a living? Austin, Witten, Barber, or Romo are the perfect guys to try and learn Dez and give his some serious shit. But I think Williams looks stupid taking it upon himself to be that guy. It is par for the course for Williams as he continues to drop shit that he should be hanging onto. Williams should do something to live up to his own draft pick status before he attempts to teach someone else how things should be done in the NFL. Both players looked silly in this instance and I love it, more DAL drama.

[retailguy]

Brandon has a rookie boner. If it doesn't go down in 4 hours, see a doctor. Or Brandon Underwood. He'll set you up.

I have a rookie "boner" for Burnett, I just don't understand all he hate towards Dez.

It is simple really. He's a jackass. I see it today, you'll see it in a couple of years along with the rest of the world. No problem.

so he is a jackass for not carrying pads? What else has he done that earns him the title of a jackass or douche? He is a 21 year old kid who came from a troubled background who did not realize rookie hazing and took it as a shot to his man hood from a guy he is competing with for a starting job.

His "troubled" background isn't his fault, but he's gotta pick himself up and move on from it. I don't think he can. I see a pattern. Here it is:

The front office likes Bryant personally and values his talent, but it is concerned that he doesn't have a foundation. He grew up with a mother who was in and out of jail and a father who barely wanted him.

Not a reflection on him, but a little insight into how he grew up and the role models he had or didn't have in his life. This affects how he makes decisions.

Bryant was outstanding on the field at Oklahoma State, but he was often late to games and meetings.

Me first? If it isn't important to me, it isn't important.. Not good.

He was suspended just three games into his junior season for lying to the NCAA about his relationship with Deion Sanders.

He keeps saying that "nothing" about his relationship with Deion was improper. Then why lie?

While he was visiting St. Louis, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported that he acted like a diva. Bryant's people disputed that account, saying that he was tired after a five-hour flight from San Francisco and declined a dinner invite because he had eaten before arriving.

This is relatively recent. Aren't all of us expected to be on our best behavior during a job interview? Isn't this common sense for most of us? Even if this is "blown out of proportion" to a degree, shouldn't Dez have put himself in the place where it was a non issue? Hell, have the brains to just go with the flow, show up at dinner and order soup... Be humble. I don't think he has those skills.

This article then concludes with this "gem":

"The things that happened in the past, they happened in the past," Bryant said. "We're trying to fix what's going on now. My family and I have been doing great, we're doing fine, and people don't talk about that. They don't look at that. They just look at my background. They didn't look at what's going on now."

What's going on now is that Dez wouldn't carry Williams pads, because HE decided he didn't have to do that. HE decided that he was there to play football, AND NOTHING ELSE.

Which one of us gets to make those decisions? Hell, if my employer wants me to clean the bathroom, and they keep sending the same paycheck they always have, then I clean the bathroom.

Today, Dez is making the same decisions he has made in the past. Not much has changed, except Jerry Jones dropped a wad of cash in his bank account. This makes it even harder to change.

Dez ain't changing. What you see is what you get. And what you get is an immature jackass, who might be a good football player. And might not. Jackass is almost guaranteed. The jury is still out on the football player.

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/columns/story?columnist=watkins_calvin&id=5128506

[Fritz]

I think the Cowboys should bring in a donkey especially for Dez Bryant.

[RashanGary]

I had a pretty rough up bringing (dad in and out of jail). Mom did her best, but at some point just sort of gave up on being a parent.

I was a bit of a jackass for a while. I was incredibly immature. Nobody talked to me about life, about considering other people. It sounds so common sense, many things do, but when you life in a disfunctional home and have very little support, things everyone takes for granted, you don't have. People hate you because they think you're a prick. The real feeling towards these people should be empathy and maybe sympathy. They're idiots, unfit for society.

I found some good people and found some support that helped me move on from the immaturity. It's not all that common. Not too many of my old friends have any level of success.

I hope the best for him though. I didn't want him on our team because I know he has long odds, but I do wish the best for him. It's on him to clean it up, but I don't hate him or not understand him if he doesn't. He's just another product of a bad environment that was too dumb and too lost to ever really become a functional member of society.

[retailguy]

I had a pretty rough up bringing (dad in and out of jail). Mom did her best, but at some point just sort of gave up on being a parent.

I was a bit of a jackass for a while. I was incredibly immature. Nobody talked to me about life, about considering other people. It sounds so common sense, many things do, but when you life in a disfunctional home and have very little support, things everyone takes for granted, you don't have. People hate you because they think you're a prick. The real feeling towards these people should be empathy and maybe sympathy. They're idiots, unfit for society.

I found some good people and found some support that helped me move on from the immaturity. It's not all that common. Not too many of my old friends have any level of success.

I hope the best for him though. I didn't want him on our team because I know he has long odds, but I do wish the best for him. It's on him to clean it up, but I don't hate him or not understand him if he doesn't. He's just another product of a bad environment that was too dumb and too lost to ever really become a functional member of society.

Did Jerry Jones stick $8m in your bank account when you were 21? Serious question - if someone had done that, would it have retarded or helped your growth?

True change is relatively rare. You should be proud of your accomplishments, they didn't come without significant work.

Case in point? - Chris Henry. All of the things they have said about Dez were said about Henry. He's a good kid, he's misunderstood, he's immature, he means well.... Even partially straightened out the guy couldn't make it.

All this stuff is very sad. Not outside human nature, but still very sad.

Guys like you have to get into positions to help guys like them, both rich and poor. They won't listen to guys like me, no matter how hard I try. I did not come from the same background. I do not process information and make decisions from the same perspective. They cannot relate to me, and therefore, cannot accept any suggestions from me, or anyone else that didn't come from their background.

In any event, I don't think Deion Sanders is a good role model for the kid. You may as well assign Pacman Jones as his mentor.

[get louder at lambeau]

I had a pretty rough up bringing (dad in and out of jail). Mom did her best, but at some point just sort of gave up on being a parent.

I was a bit of a jackass for a while. I was incredibly immature. Nobody talked to me about life, about considering other people. It sounds so common sense, many things do, but when you life in a disfunctional home and have very little support, things everyone takes for granted, you don't have. People hate you because they think you're a prick. The real feeling towards these people should be empathy and maybe sympathy. They're idiots, unfit for society.

I found some good people and found some support that helped me move on from the immaturity. It's not all that common. Not too many of my old friends have any level of success.

I hope the best for him though. I didn't want him on our team because I know he has long odds, but I do wish the best for him. It's on him to clean it up, but I don't hate him or not understand him if he doesn't. He's just another product of a bad environment that was too dumb and too lost to ever really become a functional member of society.

Did Jerry Jones stick $8m in your bank account when you were 21? Serious question - if someone had done that, would it have retarded or helped your growth?

True change is relatively rare. You should be proud of your accomplishments, they didn't come without significant work.

Case in point? - Chris Henry. All of the things they have said about Dez were said about Henry. He's a good kid, he's misunderstood, he's immature, he means well.... Even partially straightened out the guy couldn't make it.

All this stuff is very sad. Not outside human nature, but still very sad.

Guys like you have to get into positions to help guys like them, both rich and poor. They won't listen to guys like me, no matter how hard I try. I did not come from the same background. I do not process information and make decisions from the same perspective. They cannot relate to me, and therefore, cannot accept any suggestions from me, or anyone else that didn't come from their background.

In any event, I don't think Deion Sanders is a good role model for the kid. You may as well assign Pacman Jones as his mentor.

My nephew grew up in a dysfunctional situation and then got $80,000 from an accident right when he turned 18. Worst thing that ever happened to him.

[Brandon494]

Case in point? - Chris Henry. All of the things they have said about Dez were said about Henry. He's a good kid, he's misunderstood, he's immature, he means well.... Even partially straightened out the guy couldn't make it.

They are nothing alike, Dez has never been in trouble with the law like Henry. Also Henry had a chronic brain injury that influenced his mental state and behavior.

I look at Dez Byrant like Randy Moss, I don't see him being as good as Moss but both players were top 10 talents who slid to the 20s in the draft because of off field issues. Dez Byrant will be a stud in this league and you can quote me on that.

He is getting a bad rap which he doesnt deserve. Ok so he didnt carry some pads, who really cares? He was the first 1st round draft pick to sign because he wanted to get to training camp on time and get extra work in with Romo. He didnt hold out for half the season like the diva WR Crabtree. Some of you may want to go back to when you were 21 and think of all the stupid shit you did because Im only 23 and I shake my head at some of the shit I pulled 2 years ago. Only difference is we don't have the media putting our personal lifes all over the internet.

[retailguy]

They are nothing alike,

I disagree

Dez has never been in trouble with the law like Henry.

Yet.

Also Henry had a chronic brain injury that influenced his mental state and behavior.

That is a THEORY. No one knows how it affected him. Further, no one knows that Dez doesn't have the same brain injury. Or you. Or me either for that matter.

I look at Dez Byrant like Randy Moss, I don't see him being as good as Moss but both players were top 10 talents who slid to the 20s in the draft because of off field issues. Dez Byrant will be a stud in this league and you can quote me on that.

Consider yourself quoted. I believe he won't be worth a shit if he doesn't grow up quick.

He is getting a bad rap which he doesnt deserve.

Complete bullshit. Every single thing I posted, he has admitted he did. Nothing is made up, nothing is inaccurate. We're discussing how people "interpret" what he did.

He earned that "bad rap", and is failing badly at "repairing" his image. He is coming off as the complete douche people say he is.

Ok so he didnt carry some pads, who really cares?

I do. And so do a bunch of other people.

He was the first 1st round draft pick to sign because he wanted to get to training camp on time and get extra work in with Romo.

Says who? He got a good offer. The Cowboys paid him and he showed up.

He didnt hold out for half the season like the diva WR Crabtree.

Neither did Chris Henry, or 99.999% of the rest of the NFL over the past 10 years.

Some of you may want to go back to when you were 21 and think of all the stupid shit you did because Im only 23 and I shake my head at some of the shit I pulled 2 years ago.

I shake my head at the shit you said last week.

Seriously, I do, you do, we all do. BUT, we weren't getting paid $8m to do our jobs either. We aren't on the news crying about how "misunderstood" we are either.

Only difference is we don't have the media putting our personal lifes all over the internet.

If you got paid $8m at age 21, you'd be on TV, or in jail.

That's the breaks. Life ain't fair.



So, hear me Brandon. I hope the guy shapes up. I hope he's part of the less than 5% that change. I just don't see it. I see a pattern. You see a pattern. You excuse it, I don't. I made mistakes at 21. I made mistakes at 31. I made mistakes at 41. But you know what? I was responsible for every damn one of those mistakes. And so is Dez.