More "Mr. August" hype

[RashanGary]

We'll see how it pans out. He has a chance.

[Brandon494]

Re: Oh My!

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Those convinced Desmond Bishop should be an every-down player should have seen Tuesday night’s practice.

Given the opportunity to play with the starters for the entire practice in base and nickel for the first time this summer, Bishop did what he often does in his few real game opportunities.

That is, he gave up too many plays.

A day after he was thrown into a new-look nickel package, he also got the base reps because Nick Barnett was resting his surgical repaired knee.

Bishop might be a powerful hitter and a decent rusher, but he once again struggled in coverage. He gave up a long catch to tight end Jermichael Finley on a seam route for a 21-yard gain in the 7-on-7 two-minute drill. In the same drill, he gave up the winning touchdown to Donald Lee on first-and-goal from the 6-yard line with 16 seconds left. He also was in coverage on Nelson’s deep seam route.

Sure, Bishop made some noise, like when he knocked off Finley’s helmet after the tight end made a short catch in the flat but for every big play he makes, he seems to give up one, too.

Maybe that’s why in his first three seasons, he never received any consistent playing time.

You have to take in to account that this 7-on-7 drill there was no pass rush. You give Aaron Rodgers all day to throw the ball he'll beat the best LBs in coverage.

[ThunderDan]

Re: Oh My!

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Those convinced Desmond Bishop should be an every-down player should have seen Tuesday night’s practice.

Given the opportunity to play with the starters for the entire practice in base and nickel for the first time this summer, Bishop did what he often does in his few real game opportunities.

That is, he gave up too many plays.

A day after he was thrown into a new-look nickel package, he also got the base reps because Nick Barnett was resting his surgical repaired knee.

Bishop might be a powerful hitter and a decent rusher, but he once again struggled in coverage. He gave up a long catch to tight end Jermichael Finley on a seam route for a 21-yard gain in the 7-on-7 two-minute drill. In the same drill, he gave up the winning touchdown to Donald Lee on first-and-goal from the 6-yard line with 16 seconds left. He also was in coverage on Nelson’s deep seam route.

Sure, Bishop made some noise, like when he knocked off Finley’s helmet after the tight end made a short catch in the flat but for every big play he makes, he seems to give up one, too.

Maybe that’s why in his first three seasons, he never received any consistent playing time.

You have to take in to account that this 7-on-7 drill there was no pass rush. You give Aaron Rodgers all day to throw the ball he'll beat the best LBs in coverage.

I am sure that is taken into account. Just like when Bishop had great coverage on Finley earlier in the week, if we have no context who knows/cares. Was it red zone on the 2 yard line or a 20 yard seem pass? The discription of great coverage in those situations is completely different.

[gabe]

Just reverse their roles, if Hawk was drafted where Bishop was, and Bishop was drafted where Hawk was who do you think would be starting?

I personally think that A.j. would be considered one of the gems of the draft, but also think bishop would be entrenched as the back up inside linebacker.

Also if Bishop started from day one and Hawk hadn't been starting (assuming he was drafted in Bishops spot) then Bishop would have more exp. and possibly be better?

To many variables for me, I'm happy with the way things are. If its not broke why fix it?

[mission]

pb - i was going to look that link up for you but then i see the next day he struggles...

i think gbpackfan mentioned it and whatever day that was, either JSO or GBPG had it in their live practice feed (or practice round up).

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: Oh My!

I am sure that is taken into account. Just like when Bishop had great coverage on Finley earlier in the week, if we have no context who knows/cares. Was it red zone on the 2 yard line or a 20 yard seem pass? The discription of great coverage in those situations is completely different.

Where's the link to Bishop having great coverage on Finley? I'm just wondering if it was for a play or two, or he just owned him the entire practice. Honestly, I don't much believe it. I doubt Bishop has the athleticism to hang with Finley play after play. If it was for a play or two but he screws up other plans, big deal. That goes back to the lack of consistency Bishop has.

I also thought I read somebody post that Bishop had great coverage because he mostly held Finley.

[Joemailman]

Re: Oh My!

I am sure that is taken into account. Just like when Bishop had great coverage on Finley earlier in the week, if we have no context who knows/cares. Was it red zone on the 2 yard line or a 20 yard seem pass? The discription of great coverage in those situations is completely different.

Where's the link to Bishop having great coverage on Finley? I'm just wondering if it was for a play or two, or he just owned him the entire practice. Honestly, I don't much believe it. I doubt Bishop has the athleticism to hang with Finley play after play. If it was for a play or two but he screws up other plans, big deal. That goes back to the lack of consistency Bishop has.

I also thought I read somebody post that Bishop had great coverage because he mostly held Finley.

This was from practice 4, I believe.

PackersLive: Rodgers and Finley have a miscommunication to end their set of downs. But very good coverage by Bishop on two plays vs Finley [via Twitter]

[RashanGary]

Bishop is a tough dude. We haven't seen much of him. Just for curiosity sake, I'd like to see him play a few games. If the coaches thinks he earned it, great. If not, I trust Capers to make the right call here. I'm not a huge Hawk fan, but I don't know enough to make the call here.

[Fritz]

Can he put on thirty or forty pounds and play defensive end?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Let's remember this about our defense in practice:

They are going against one of the best offenses in the league. There's going to be times when they look foolish.

[woodbuck27]

I vote for confidence every time over I'll just try my best.

[Brandon494]

Let's remember this about our defense in practice:

They are going against one of the best offenses in the league. There's going to be times when they look foolish.

Especially when Aaron isn't even getting rushed.

[ThunderDan]

Let's remember this about our defense in practice:

They are going against one of the best offenses in the league. There's going to be times when they look foolish.

Especially when Aaron isn't even getting rushed.

Of course when AR can't hand the ball off it sure helps the D.

[Brandon494]

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[Deputy Nutz]

WHY?