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  • #16
    Originally posted by Fritz
    Skin is ecstatic.
    And elastic!

    This is the next best option to him dying as a result of sucking donkey genitals. I'll take it.
    "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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    • #17
      And Bubble Plastic?
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #18
        Re: Bye bye Bigby?

        Originally posted by hoosier
        According to Bedard's blog today, Bigby is having more ankle surgery and might be out for the year. That leaves Burnett as front runner at SS and Derrick Martin as likely 2nd stringer.

        Here we go again !

        Say it isn't so ??
        Is it really a halo or
        just a swelled head ?

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        • #19
          Re: Bye bye Bigby?

          Originally posted by Packers4Ever
          Originally posted by hoosier
          According to Bedard's blog today, Bigby is having more ankle surgery and might be out for the year. That leaves Burnett as front runner at SS and Derrick Martin as likely 2nd stringer.

          Here we go again !

          Say it isn't so ??
          Fuck yeah! Sur-ger-y! Sur-ger-y! Sur-ger-y!
          "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wist43
            slow to react, lacks instincts, and does a lot of guessing
            See I've heard the exact opposite. Have any links?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by mission
              Originally posted by wist43
              slow to react, lacks instincts, and does a lot of guessing
              See I've heard the exact opposite. Have any links?
              Was thinking the samething, that sounds more like Bigby.

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              • #22
                Don't panic. Bigby is getting the ankle scoped.

                Medical technology has improved and he is not getting government Obamacare.

                The early part of the schedule is easier things will be okay. It is 6 weeks until the season starts.

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                • #23
                  Yea I hear he should be ready by week 1 if everything goes right which is great! As much as I want Burnett to start I really don't want to see Martin out there in case Burnett gets injuried.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Brandon494
                    Yea I hear he should be ready by week 1 if everything goes right which is great! As much as I want Burnett to start I really don't want to see Martin out there in case Burnett gets injuried.
                    Yeah Im definitely not in the JSO crowd that wants to send Bigby on down the road. He should be ready in time to fill in if/when he's needed and I expect him to compete. Hopefully Burnett steps up to the point where not only is he not a liability, but he's out there creating turnovers and being our this-year's Clay Matthews.

                    Of course that's best-case scenario, but that's where I try to start my preseason. It's usually downhill from there...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Brandon494
                      Yea I hear he should be ready by week 1 if everything goes right which is great! As much as I want Burnett to start I really don't want to see Martin out there in case Burnett gets injuried.
                      Or in case Burnett plays like a rookie. It's not a given that he's the next Hall of Fame safety quite yet.

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                      • #26
                        I'm a little concerned here about this. Many of us expect that this could be the year, but the fact is that injuries can wreck a season. I know all the platitudes about the next guy stepping up and all that, but you get too many injuries and you end up with less talent on the field. That's just a fact.

                        So my hope is that the surgery goes well and that Bigby can be back at least in a limited role by the start of the season. I'm concerned about this defense.

                        Jolly's gone, Harris hurt, according to the JSO Mathews is sucking ass in camp so far, the linebacker corps looks quite unsettled. Hmmm.

                        But it's early. I am just fretting.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #27
                          Matthews will be fine. He has all the tools and is not a slacker or someone who rests on his laurels after a bit of success. Jolly's absence might create some problems if Harrell is not able to stay healthy. If Harris can't recover his pre-injury form, they might be thin in the secondary.

                          I am not so worried about Bigby: even if he has a bit more talent and/or experience than either of his backups (Martin, Burnett), the fact is that last year his performance was mediocre and the defense still played well. If you replace an inconsistent Bigby with a still learning Burnett or a consistent but less skilled Martin, I don't think the difference is going to be noticeable.

                          Injuries can derail a season but if an injury to Atari Bigby does the Packers in, then I think that would show they weren't much a force to be reckoned with to begin with. Keep in mind what the last Superbowl team had to go through: lost their top receiver early in the season for the entire year, up and coming #2 receiver missed a month with a broken arm (leaving them with Beebe and Mickens as starting WRs!), Pro Bowl TE missed a month with a sprained arch, top two LT's lost to injury, starting MLB on IR late in the year.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Fritz
                            according to the JSO Mathews is sucking ass in camp so far,
                            That's a joke about the JSO's negativity, right? I've only read glowing reports about Matthews so far.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Brandon494
                              Originally posted by mission
                              Originally posted by wist43
                              slow to react, lacks instincts, and does a lot of guessing
                              See I've heard the exact opposite. Have any links?
                              Was thinking the samething, that sounds more like Bigby.
                              I've read that in a few of places... but, the post-draft edition of the MJS has some scouts comments with that opinion, as well as the August 1st edition.

                              AFC personnel director, "There's some lack of focus, some lack of reactiveness. If you've got a deep crossing pattern or deep dig, generally people are running a deep post behind that. That's the safety's job not to jump that dig so the post doesn't go over his head. This kid may miss it 50-50".

                              It depends on what tape you watch, I guess... I have hope for the guy. As I said, I would like to see him win the job outright, not b/c of injury or b/c of his draft status, but b/c he has upside and can play at a high level.
                              wist

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by get louder at lambeau
                                Originally posted by Fritz
                                according to the JSO Mathews is sucking ass in camp so far,
                                That's a joke about the JSO's negativity, right? I've only read glowing reports about Matthews so far.
                                No, their blog had something negative about him today, they actually put him in their "thumbs down" category or whatever they call it. Apparently somebody saw him get stoned several times by Tauscher and the long list of wannabes at backup RT and decided to write home about it. If there is no news JSO will make some.

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