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  • #61
    I'm rooting for him. But my guess is he is either PS or special teams only this year. Although some of the young guys saw playing time late in the season late year (regrettably), so anything is possible.
    Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Brandon494
      Mike Hawkins was just fast, I don't remember him ever making this many plays in training camp. You are right about waiting to see him in games to see how he does but he looked pretty good during the Family Night as well.
      He made all kinds of plays in practice. One of our guys went to camp and said that Hawkins reminded him of Deion Sanders. We called him Neon Hawkins.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #63
        This sound encouraging though.



        What makes Shields rare, though, is he already has the Packers thinking they might have found a real player on the undrafted scrap heap. In fact, less than two weeks into training camp the receiver-turned-cornerback from the University of Miami has the organization as excited as it’s been about an undrafted rookie in the last 20 years.

        “He’s going to be special one day,” said Joe Whitt, the Packers’ cornerbacks coach.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #64
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          Originally posted by Brandon494
          Mike Hawkins was just fast, I don't remember him ever making this many plays in training camp. You are right about waiting to see him in games to see how he does but he looked pretty good during the Family Night as well.
          He made all kinds of plays in practice. One of our guys went to camp and said that Hawkins reminded him of Deion Sanders. We called him Neon Hawkins.
          It was me who said that and what stood out was his athleticism in drills. I didn't really know anything about football at that point in my life. That was what? 5 years ago?

          Physically, he was impressive as hell. He was faster, quicker, longer than any of our CB's. Everything he did was more impressive than any other guy there when it came to pure athleticism.

          But he wasn't making plays. That's where he struggled. I remember posters here, the ones who actually knew football, saying how lost he looked.

          Lesson learned. Shields doesn't really have the same type of praise.



          Over time, being wrong doesn't mean you give up trying to find the patterns in things or the dots that can be connected. It means you learn from your mistake, and see if you can do better next time.

          I'll note your comparison to Neon, but this guy playing good football and I'll call that the big difference. This guy isn't going ot be inducted to Canton tomorrow, there's a long way to go, but I think, even if you disagree, that this guy is a different type of story than Neon Hawkins. There is reason for optimism, football reasons this time.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            This sound encouraging though.



            What makes Shields rare, though, is he already has the Packers thinking they might have found a real player on the undrafted scrap heap. In fact, less than two weeks into training camp the receiver-turned-cornerback from the University of Miami has the organization as excited as it’s been about an undrafted rookie in the last 20 years.

            “He’s going to be special one day,” said Joe Whitt, the Packers’ cornerbacks coach.
            That right there tells me he's going to make this roster (barring an injury or huge off the field mistake). As long as he can contribute on specials in some capacity and it sounds like he can, I think he makes the roster.
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            • #66
              You can't teach speed, thus I'd be surprised he doesn't get at least a one year pass for the roster this year and then another off season to see if he can mature into a solid DB or returner.
              60% of the time it works every time.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Fred's Slacks
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                This sound encouraging though.



                What makes Shields rare, though, is he already has the Packers thinking they might have found a real player on the undrafted scrap heap. In fact, less than two weeks into training camp the receiver-turned-cornerback from the University of Miami has the organization as excited as it’s been about an undrafted rookie in the last 20 years.

                “He’s going to be special one day,” said Joe Whitt, the Packers’ cornerbacks coach.
                That right there tells me he's going to make this roster (barring an injury or huge off the field mistake). As long as he can contribute on specials in some capacity and it sounds like he can, I think he makes the roster.
                Sure sounds like it. You don't hear a position coach say "he's going to be special" publicly, and then watch the team stick the guy on the practice squad to often. Jarrett Bush and Co. better pick up their games; It looks like there's one less CB spot (and gunner/returner spot) available.

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                • #68
                  Doesn't sound like he can be stashed on the PS. Especially since there was high demand for his services after the draft, IIRC.
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                  • #69
                    SS is my favorite rookie, love guys from the U.
                    Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      Originally posted by Brandon494
                      Mike Hawkins was just fast, I don't remember him ever making this many plays in training camp. You are right about waiting to see him in games to see how he does but he looked pretty good during the Family Night as well.
                      He made all kinds of plays in practice. One of our guys went to camp and said that Hawkins reminded him of Deion Sanders. We called him Neon Hawkins.
                      It was me who said that and what stood out was his athleticism in drills. I didn't really know anything about football at that point in my life. That was what? 5 years ago?
                      And thus are legends borne...
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Spaulding
                        You can't teach speed, thus I'd be surprised he doesn't get at least a one year pass for the roster this year and then another off season to see if he can mature into a solid DB or returner.
                        Can you teach hands?
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #72
                          It's not just his hands. Even when he caught the ball he was tentative. He ran deliberately, and dare I say slowly? Good return men have a recklessness about their own health and well-being when they run. Shields didn't show that. His speed is no asset at all if he doesn't use it.

                          He has such a long way to go to be a return man that I don't see much contribution from him this year in that area, if ever.

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                          • #73
                            Well, as I have pointed out, even the undrafted rookies who stick rarely, rarely play at all their first year. They are often the Sunday ineligible guys.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                              It was me who said that and what stood out was his athleticism in drills. I didn't really know anything about football at that point in my life. That was what? 5 years ago?

                              Physically, he was impressive as hell. He was faster, quicker, longer than any of our CB's. Everything he did was more impressive than any other guy there when it came to pure athleticism.

                              But he wasn't making plays. That's where he struggled. I remember posters here, the ones who actually knew football, saying how lost he looked.

                              Lesson learned. Shields doesn't really have the same type of praise.
                              Actually, maybe not from your reports, but I remember people saying he made plays. I think he even had an interception in the first or second preseason game. The bandwagon was full at that point.

                              That article makes me feel better about Shields though. The fans were excited about Neon Hawkins, but the coaches were more trepid. They seem to be glowing about Shields.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Fritz
                                Well, as I have pointed out, even the undrafted rookies who stick rarely, rarely play at all their first year. They are often the Sunday ineligible guys.
                                This is what I expect too. Keep him on the roster, but I don't think he much playing time this year unless we have a couple injured CBs again.

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