Driver signs extension - packer until 2012!

[swede]

Yeah, it's amazing that anyone still thinks that argument holds water when a Thompson FA signing just won Defensive Player of the Year. But that doesn't count for some reason, I'm sure.

I won't put words in 1234's mouth, but I have seen OTHER "fans" (specifically, the mental midgets in the JSO comments) write that TT just got lucky with Woodson because no one else would sign him as a CB.

Hilarious, but it's absolutely true.

In a sense we got lucky with Woodson. He was out there. No one else was showing him money. This league-wide lack of attention pretty much confirms that Charles Wdodson hit free agency with a reputation for having a bad attitude and being injury prone. We were lucky in terms of this set of circumstances. It gave Green Bay a chance to explore contract possibilities with Woodson's agent while the rest of us GM's were pissing and moaning that TT had f***ed up by allowing LaVar Arrington to get away, even though TT offered more cash.

Going on my memory--which is always a bad thing--TT signed Chuck to a short-term, big salary deal with little guaranteed. It was safe for us and face-saving and lucrative for him.

TT has been lucky.

He was lucky Mike McCarthy picked Alex Smith and 20 other teams let Aaron drop to us.

He was lucky when Charles Woodson sat without offers long enough to give Green Bay a good shot.

He was lucky this year when a top-ten left tackle prospect dropped to the 23rd pick.

He has been lucky, but if you go over the same stuff with a different mindset you can see how he has been unlucky also. Favre holding the team hostage, the spleen, the promising wide receiver that retired due to neck issues.

So you can make the case that TT has been lucky. But they always say that luck goes to the good player.

[Fritz]

I thought TT never kept older players?

My God! Pickett 30, Tauscher 33, Clifton 34, Driver 36 all re-signed this year. Who is this impostor masquerading as Ted Thompson?

Plus he's traded up each of the last three years!

And you guys wondered why I was so content this season.... Sherman is really masquerading as Ted. Barring that, Ted's finally seen the light.

Ted needs to prove he can "get over the hump", after that, they'll be a few more people on board, I think.

This is Ted's year. There should be nothing that derails it.

I don't want to jinx anything, but bad luck in the form of injuries always is a possibility. Yes, I know, you're supposed to overcome that, but ultimately one or two key injuries, or too many injuries, means you have a less talented team on the field..

There are some good teams out there. My feeling is that a GM who gives a coach the talent to win and win big is doing his job. Whether the team actually wins it is not completely in any one person's hands. But the GM has more impact than anyone else, I think.

[cheesner]

Yeah, it's amazing that anyone still thinks that argument holds water when a Thompson FA signing just won Defensive Player of the Year. But that doesn't count for some reason, I'm sure.

I won't put words in 1234's mouth, but I have seen OTHER "fans" (specifically, the mental midgets in the JSO comments) write that TT just got lucky with Woodson because no one else would sign him as a CB.

Hilarious, but it's absolutely true.

In a sense we got lucky with Woodson. He was out there. No one else was showing him money. This league-wide lack of attention pretty much confirms that Charles Wdodson hit free agency with a reputation for having a bad attitude and being injury prone. We were lucky in terms of this set of circumstances. It gave Green Bay a chance to explore contract possibilities with Woodson's agent while the rest of us GM's were pissing and moaning that TT had f***ed up by allowing LaVar Arrington to get away, even though TT offered more cash.

Going on my memory--which is always a bad thing--TT signed Chuck to a short-term, big salary deal with little guaranteed. It was safe for us and face-saving and lucrative for him.

TT has been lucky.

He was lucky Mike McCarthy picked Alex Smith and 20 other teams let Aaron drop to us.

He was lucky when Charles Woodson sat without offers long enough to give Green Bay a good shot.

He was lucky this year when a top-ten left tackle prospect dropped to the 23rd pick.

He has been lucky, but if you go over the same stuff with a different mindset you can see how he has been unlucky also. Favre holding the team hostage, the spleen, the promising wide receiver that retired due to neck issues.

So you can make the case that TT has been lucky. But they always say that luck goes to the good player.

You can make this 'he got lucky' argument about every GM in the NFL. When the same GM continuously gets lucky - at some point you have to admit its more than some kind of random factor such as luck.

[pbmax]

Yeah, it's amazing that anyone still thinks that argument holds water when a Thompson FA signing just won Defensive Player of the Year. But that doesn't count for some reason, I'm sure.

I won't put words in 1234's mouth, but I have seen OTHER "fans" (specifically, the mental midgets in the JSO comments) write that TT just got lucky with Woodson because no one else would sign him as a CB.

Hilarious, but it's absolutely true.

But it does kind of put the lie to the factual basis for the acusation. Even when his critics concede he pursued someone, they explain it away by saying he didn't TRY hard enough, or offer ENOUGH money, or fails to be PERSUASIVE enough.

But their answer begs the question. In Woodson's case, they agreed with his value and position. Voila, signed. To do more than that is to overpay or play someone, possibly, out of position or with an incorrect skill set.

For instance, McGinn brought up Adalius Thomas in his interview with Ted today about improving LB depth and pass rush. Never does Bob mention that every team thinks Thomas is close to done and is asking too much money. And there is no consideration put into what position he would play. He has not played a LB position similar to what Capers would ask him to do since Baltimore.

By simply stating a list, McGinn is giving credibility to the approach of "just sign SOMEBODY" crowd. And that is how you end up with Seth Joyner. Or Hardy Nickerson.

[rbaloha1]

TT's "luck" is from preparation and instincts.

Signing DD is a good move. Maybe DD transitions to the Packers coaching staff as well.

[gbgary]

congrats to one of my all-time favorite Packers! i look for him to have one of his best seasons this year.

[retailguy]

I thought TT never kept older players?

My God! Pickett 30, Tauscher 33, Clifton 34, Driver 36 all re-signed this year. Who is this impostor masquerading as Ted Thompson?

Plus he's traded up each of the last three years!

And you guys wondered why I was so content this season.... Sherman is really masquerading as Ted. Barring that, Ted's finally seen the light.

Ted needs to prove he can "get over the hump", after that, they'll be a few more people on board, I think.

This is Ted's year. There should be nothing that derails it.

I don't want to jinx anything, but bad luck in the form of injuries always is a possibility. Yes, I know, you're supposed to overcome that, but ultimately one or two key injuries, or too many injuries, means you have a less talented team on the field..

There are some good teams out there. My feeling is that a GM who gives a coach the talent to win and win big is doing his job. Whether the team actually wins it is not completely in any one person's hands. But the GM has more impact than anyone else, I think.

If he's a "good GM" then to an extent he should be able to plan for some injuries. Really and truly, he should be done rebuilding and the time is now.

This team should win, and there shouldn't be excuses. They're over and done with.

[Tony Oday]

I thought TT never kept older players?

My God! Pickett 30, Tauscher 33, Clifton 34, Driver 36 all re-signed this year. Who is this impostor masquerading as Ted Thompson?

Plus he's traded up each of the last three years!

And you guys wondered why I was so content this season.... Sherman is really masquerading as Ted. Barring that, Ted's finally seen the light.

Ted needs to prove he can "get over the hump", after that, they'll be a few more people on board, I think.

This is Ted's year. There should be nothing that derails it.

I don't want to jinx anything, but bad luck in the form of injuries always is a possibility. Yes, I know, you're supposed to overcome that, but ultimately one or two key injuries, or too many injuries, means you have a less talented team on the field..

There are some good teams out there. My feeling is that a GM who gives a coach the talent to win and win big is doing his job. Whether the team actually wins it is not completely in any one person's hands. But the GM has more impact than anyone else, I think.

If he's a "good GM" then to an extent he should be able to plan for some injuries. Really and truly, he should be done rebuilding and the time is now.

This team should win, and there shouldn't be excuses. They're over and done with.

The Patriots can't win without Brady, Colts can win it without Payton, Vikes cant win it because they wear purple, Pack cant win it with AR out.

[Brandon494]

I thought TT never kept older players?

My God! Pickett 30, Tauscher 33, Clifton 34, Driver 36 all re-signed this year. Who is this impostor masquerading as Ted Thompson?

Plus he's traded up each of the last three years!

And you guys wondered why I was so content this season.... Sherman is really masquerading as Ted. Barring that, Ted's finally seen the light.

Ted needs to prove he can "get over the hump", after that, they'll be a few more people on board, I think.

This is Ted's year. There should be nothing that derails it.

I don't want to jinx anything, but bad luck in the form of injuries always is a possibility. Yes, I know, you're supposed to overcome that, but ultimately one or two key injuries, or too many injuries, means you have a less talented team on the field..

There are some good teams out there. My feeling is that a GM who gives a coach the talent to win and win big is doing his job. Whether the team actually wins it is not completely in any one person's hands. But the GM has more impact than anyone else, I think.

If he's a "good GM" then to an extent he should be able to plan for some injuries. Really and truly, he should be done rebuilding and the time is now.

This team should win, and there shouldn't be excuses. They're over and done with.

The Patriots can't win without Brady, Colts can win it without Payton, Vikes cant win it because they wear purple, Pack cant win it with AR out.

I think you meant to say Colts can't win it without Peyton but I know what you meant.

I think TT is one of the top 5 GM in the league and I don't really see us in the rebuilding mode. Just because we don't sign FA doesnt mean TT is rebuilding.

[retailguy]

I thought TT never kept older players?

My God! Pickett 30, Tauscher 33, Clifton 34, Driver 36 all re-signed this year. Who is this impostor masquerading as Ted Thompson?

Plus he's traded up each of the last three years!

And you guys wondered why I was so content this season.... Sherman is really masquerading as Ted. Barring that, Ted's finally seen the light.

Ted needs to prove he can "get over the hump", after that, they'll be a few more people on board, I think.

This is Ted's year. There should be nothing that derails it.

I don't want to jinx anything, but bad luck in the form of injuries always is a possibility. Yes, I know, you're supposed to overcome that, but ultimately one or two key injuries, or too many injuries, means you have a less talented team on the field..

There are some good teams out there. My feeling is that a GM who gives a coach the talent to win and win big is doing his job. Whether the team actually wins it is not completely in any one person's hands. But the GM has more impact than anyone else, I think.

If he's a "good GM" then to an extent he should be able to plan for some injuries. Really and truly, he should be done rebuilding and the time is now.

This team should win, and there shouldn't be excuses. They're over and done with.

The Patriots can't win without Brady, Colts can win it without Payton, Vikes cant win it because they wear purple, Pack cant win it with AR out.

Can't? Do you remember the 99 St. Louis Rams who lost Trent Green in the 1st game?

[Tony Oday]

I thought TT never kept older players?

My God! Pickett 30, Tauscher 33, Clifton 34, Driver 36 all re-signed this year. Who is this impostor masquerading as Ted Thompson?

Plus he's traded up each of the last three years!

And you guys wondered why I was so content this season.... Sherman is really masquerading as Ted. Barring that, Ted's finally seen the light.

Ted needs to prove he can "get over the hump", after that, they'll be a few more people on board, I think.

This is Ted's year. There should be nothing that derails it.

I don't want to jinx anything, but bad luck in the form of injuries always is a possibility. Yes, I know, you're supposed to overcome that, but ultimately one or two key injuries, or too many injuries, means you have a less talented team on the field..

There are some good teams out there. My feeling is that a GM who gives a coach the talent to win and win big is doing his job. Whether the team actually wins it is not completely in any one person's hands. But the GM has more impact than anyone else, I think.

If he's a "good GM" then to an extent he should be able to plan for some injuries. Really and truly, he should be done rebuilding and the time is now.

This team should win, and there shouldn't be excuses. They're over and done with.

The Patriots can't win without Brady, Colts can win it without Payton, Vikes cant win it because they wear purple, Pack cant win it with AR out.

Can't? Do you remember the 99 St. Louis Rams who lost Trent Green in the 1st game?

Yes CANT I didnt stutter. The Colts would be TERRIBLE, The Pats already tried it and failed, AR is out so is our offense Flynn is not taking us to the promised land and purple is the color of losers.

[Tony Oday]

I thought TT never kept older players?

My God! Pickett 30, Tauscher 33, Clifton 34, Driver 36 all re-signed this year. Who is this impostor masquerading as Ted Thompson?

Plus he's traded up each of the last three years!

And you guys wondered why I was so content this season.... Sherman is really masquerading as Ted. Barring that, Ted's finally seen the light.

Ted needs to prove he can "get over the hump", after that, they'll be a few more people on board, I think.

This is Ted's year. There should be nothing that derails it.

I don't want to jinx anything, but bad luck in the form of injuries always is a possibility. Yes, I know, you're supposed to overcome that, but ultimately one or two key injuries, or too many injuries, means you have a less talented team on the field..

There are some good teams out there. My feeling is that a GM who gives a coach the talent to win and win big is doing his job. Whether the team actually wins it is not completely in any one person's hands. But the GM has more impact than anyone else, I think.

If he's a "good GM" then to an extent he should be able to plan for some injuries. Really and truly, he should be done rebuilding and the time is now.

This team should win, and there shouldn't be excuses. They're over and done with.

The Patriots can't win without Brady, Colts can win it without Payton, Vikes cant win it because they wear purple, Pack cant win it with AR out.

I think you meant to say Colts can't win it without Peyton but I know what you meant.

I think TT is one of the top 5 GM in the league and I don't really see us in the rebuilding mode. Just because we don't sign FA doesnt mean TT is rebuilding.

lol true it was supposed to be can't

When looking at FA what would really have helped us this offseason in the FA market?

[retailguy]

I thought TT never kept older players?

My God! Pickett 30, Tauscher 33, Clifton 34, Driver 36 all re-signed this year. Who is this impostor masquerading as Ted Thompson?

Plus he's traded up each of the last three years!

And you guys wondered why I was so content this season.... Sherman is really masquerading as Ted. Barring that, Ted's finally seen the light.

Ted needs to prove he can "get over the hump", after that, they'll be a few more people on board, I think.

This is Ted's year. There should be nothing that derails it.

I don't want to jinx anything, but bad luck in the form of injuries always is a possibility. Yes, I know, you're supposed to overcome that, but ultimately one or two key injuries, or too many injuries, means you have a less talented team on the field..

There are some good teams out there. My feeling is that a GM who gives a coach the talent to win and win big is doing his job. Whether the team actually wins it is not completely in any one person's hands. But the GM has more impact than anyone else, I think.

If he's a "good GM" then to an extent he should be able to plan for some injuries. Really and truly, he should be done rebuilding and the time is now.

This team should win, and there shouldn't be excuses. They're over and done with.

The Patriots can't win without Brady, Colts can win it without Payton, Vikes cant win it because they wear purple, Pack cant win it with AR out.

Can't? Do you remember the 99 St. Louis Rams who lost Trent Green in the 1st game?

Yes CANT I didnt stutter. The Colts would be TERRIBLE, The Pats already tried it and failed, AR is out so is our offense Flynn is not taking us to the promised land and purple is the color of losers.

How many Rams fans said the same thing in 99? Can't is a strong word. I stand by what I said. There should be no valid reason for this team not to achieve this year. It's time. Rebuilding is done. We're going to be great regardless of who gets hurt. Nothing wrong with Flynn. He led LSU to a championship and beat out Brohm for a job. He's a competitor. That's what you want.

[Guiness]

While I do kind of think we got lucky with Woodson - while the broken leg cost him a season, it's not an 'injury prone' type - it's a damn broken leg! But I think it hurt him in the eyes of many. Too many missed games, people look at statistics when they shouldn't be. But no one in their wildest wet dreams thought he'd be what he's been.

But TT played his cards successfully with Woodson and Pickett, and less so with others (say, Vinateri). He's at the table, but you can't expect him to win every hand. But he wins enough.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Extending Driver is a no brainer. Why wouldn't the team extend him?