Hawk gets praise .... wont be cut or restructured?

[Bossman641]

Didn't get a chance to watch the game, but at this point I would be much more concerned with individual battles (which DL can beat their man, can Lee and Underwood man up, etc) then the scheme.

[Gunakor]

I was rather disappointed with our entire defensive planning game 1. I sure hope it improves, cause it was U-G-L-Y.

I'm sure the coordinators weren't sitting around all week scheming up a plan to beat the Browns. If the lack of a quality game plan was the issue then I'm happy as a clam. I wouldn't expect Dom to start planning for an opponent until the regular season starts anyway. Dom wanted to see what this group looks like in base (as reported on the game broadcast anyway), so we sat in base and played cover-2 all night. No worries, the game doesn't count anyway.

[Patler]

As I sat in Lambeau last night studying the game, I really started to wonder what we are doing defensively. Our blitz's looked rather blah, and our blitzing techniques were rather blah. Chillar would run full speed and then as he got to the Tackle on his blitz, he would square up to the blocker...that's crappy. A LB needs to give as little as possible to be blocked, which is where Matthews is so effective. AND, our blitz's were very noticeable and predictable.

Capers said BEFORE the game that he would run very basic blitz schemes, if he even blitzed at all. He said he wanted to be able to assess the individual skills of players in pass coverage and the individual skills of the linemen in pass rushing. He said if you blitz effectively it makes it hard to assess individual skills, and last year he made the mistake of going into the season without a clear understanding of each player's capabilities.

He sounded like a man with a plan, very clearly and very definitely. He ran the defense to be able to see what he wanted to see, regardless of the impact it might have on the outcome of the game. I suspect each week we will see the defense become a little more like what it will be when the season opens.

[Patler]

Double post. sorry!

[Joemailman]

As I sat in Lambeau last night studying the game, I really started to wonder what we are doing defensively. Our blitz's looked rather blah, and our blitzing techniques were rather blah. Chillar would run full speed and then as he got to the Tackle on his blitz, he would square up to the blocker...that's crappy. A LB needs to give as little as possible to be blocked, which is where Matthews is so effective. AND, our blitz's were very noticeable and predictable.

Capers said BEFORE the game that he would run very basic blitz schemes, if he even blitzed at all. He said he wanted to be able to assess the individual skills of players in pass coverage and the individual skills of the linemen in pass rushing. He said if you blitz effectively it makes it hard to assess individual skills, and last year he made the mistake of going into the season without a clear understanding of each player's capabilities.

He sounded like a man with a plan, very clearly and very definitely. He ran the defense to be able to see what he wanted to see, regardless of the impact it might have on the outcome of the game. I suspect each week we will see the defense become a little more like what it will be when the season opens.

Last year the pressure they brought in the preseason produced turnovers at a rate that could not be maintained. That probably disguised some weaknesses that came back to rear their ugly heads later. The way they did things Saturday night is probably better, even though it's not as much fun to watch.

[packerbacker1234]

As I sat in Lambeau last night studying the game, I really started to wonder what we are doing defensively. Our blitz's looked rather blah, and our blitzing techniques were rather blah. Chillar would run full speed and then as he got to the Tackle on his blitz, he would square up to the blocker...that's crappy. A LB needs to give as little as possible to be blocked, which is where Matthews is so effective. AND, our blitz's were very noticeable and predictable.

Capers said BEFORE the game that he would run very basic blitz schemes, if he even blitzed at all. He said he wanted to be able to assess the individual skills of players in pass coverage and the individual skills of the linemen in pass rushing. He said if you blitz effectively it makes it hard to assess individual skills, and last year he made the mistake of going into the season without a clear understanding of each player's capabilities.

He sounded like a man with a plan, very clearly and very definitely. He ran the defense to be able to see what he wanted to see, regardless of the impact it might have on the outcome of the game. I suspect each week we will see the defense become a little more like what it will be when the season opens.

Last year the pressure they brought in the preseason produced turnovers at a rate that could not be maintained. That probably disguised some weaknesses that came back to rear their ugly heads later. The way they did things Saturday night is probably better, even though it's not as much fun to watch.

Well to be fair, we were the #1 team at causing turnovers last season, so it's not as if all those preseason turnovers didn't translate at all - the packers are the best team in the nfl at causing turnovers.

However, we all know about the QB pressure problems. I like what he is doing and how he is doing it - he really wants to just figure out players individual skill sets better so when he does blitz, he does it correctly, at the right time, and hitting the right hole with the right players. He could of dialed up a bunch of exoctic blitzs and got 6 turnovers, but that wont help translate to doing it in the regular season against a good team like the vikings. So, this is sort of a "lets see what your good at" thing, and I like it.

Preseason games don't actually matter, they are glorified practices. That's what we saw saturday - practice.