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  • #16
    Originally posted by Freak Out
    Originally posted by pittstang5
    Originally posted by Freak Out
    the last thing we need is to ruin a potentially great season because of one weak link at a critical spot.
    Same could be said about the OLB position...something I'm more worried about then at the Cornerback position.
    Good point.....if we put the opposing QB on his back every drop back we can live with bad CBs.
    Exactly!

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    • #17
      with a solid OL we will just outscore everyone

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      • #18
        Originally posted by packers11
        with a solid OL we will just outscore everyone
        Didn't we try that a couple of games last season? it didn't work to well against the cards

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        • #19
          I'm more comfortable with Brad Jones and Brandon Chillar than I am with Brandon Underwood and Pat Lee.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by JustinHarrell
            I'm more comfortable with Brad Jones and Brandon Chillar than I am with Brandon Underwood and Pat Lee.
            +1
            Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
              We need Harris bad. I watched the game yesterday. Underwood got burned badly on two consecutive plays. The first, a 4th and 1. Underwood had obvious underneath coverage in cover 2. He let his guy run an out, didn't jump the route and gave up the 1st down. I said to my brother, "that is inexcusable. He's been here for two years. If he can't figure out to play the short stuff aggressively when he has underneath responsibility, then he shouldn't be on the field". Next day (today) I read McGinn's article where he chastised Underwood for that idiotic play.

              It's disappointing because that's our fucking nickle cornerback until Al comes back. I was worried about the CB's. Now I'm terrified. We need to trade, even if the guy has low upside, we need a guy who is not a retard out there playing corner. He's had 18 months to figure out how to play the most basic coverage and can't get it. Enough of that fucking experiment. Next contestant please.
              I wouldn't get so worked up about something that happened in the first preseason game. Watch Nick Barnett on the first play of the game. Sometimes veterans miss things too.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Joemailman
                Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                We need Harris bad. I watched the game yesterday. Underwood got burned badly on two consecutive plays. The first, a 4th and 1. Underwood had obvious underneath coverage in cover 2. He let his guy run an out, didn't jump the route and gave up the 1st down. I said to my brother, "that is inexcusable. He's been here for two years. If he can't figure out to play the short stuff aggressively when he has underneath responsibility, then he shouldn't be on the field". Next day (today) I read McGinn's article where he chastised Underwood for that idiotic play.

                It's disappointing because that's our fucking nickle cornerback until Al comes back. I was worried about the CB's. Now I'm terrified. We need to trade, even if the guy has low upside, we need a guy who is not a retard out there playing corner. He's had 18 months to figure out how to play the most basic coverage and can't get it. Enough of that fucking experiment. Next contestant please.
                I wouldn't get so worked up about something that happened in the first preseason game. Watch Nick Barnett on the first play of the game. Sometimes veterans miss things too.
                Underwood's mistakes are correctable -- alignment stuff.

                BU is long with good recovery speed. Those long arms should knock down many passes.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Joemailman
                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                  We need Harris bad. I watched the game yesterday. Underwood got burned badly on two consecutive plays. The first, a 4th and 1. Underwood had obvious underneath coverage in cover 2. He let his guy run an out, didn't jump the route and gave up the 1st down. I said to my brother, "that is inexcusable. He's been here for two years. If he can't figure out to play the short stuff aggressively when he has underneath responsibility, then he shouldn't be on the field". Next day (today) I read McGinn's article where he chastised Underwood for that idiotic play.

                  It's disappointing because that's our fucking nickle cornerback until Al comes back. I was worried about the CB's. Now I'm terrified. We need to trade, even if the guy has low upside, we need a guy who is not a retard out there playing corner. He's had 18 months to figure out how to play the most basic coverage and can't get it. Enough of that fucking experiment. Next contestant please.
                  I wouldn't get so worked up about something that happened in the first preseason game. Watch Nick Barnett on the first play of the game. Sometimes veterans miss things too.
                  He needs the excuse to back off from FIVE YEARS of predictions.... And they've only played ONE preseason game?

                  Fuck that. This team is stacked. BU will step up, or someone else will.

                  We're winning Baby! Don't miss the bus!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by retailguy
                    Originally posted by Joemailman
                    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                    We need Harris bad. I watched the game yesterday. Underwood got burned badly on two consecutive plays. The first, a 4th and 1. Underwood had obvious underneath coverage in cover 2. He let his guy run an out, didn't jump the route and gave up the 1st down. I said to my brother, "that is inexcusable. He's been here for two years. If he can't figure out to play the short stuff aggressively when he has underneath responsibility, then he shouldn't be on the field". Next day (today) I read McGinn's article where he chastised Underwood for that idiotic play.

                    It's disappointing because that's our fucking nickle cornerback until Al comes back. I was worried about the CB's. Now I'm terrified. We need to trade, even if the guy has low upside, we need a guy who is not a retard out there playing corner. He's had 18 months to figure out how to play the most basic coverage and can't get it. Enough of that fucking experiment. Next contestant please.
                    I wouldn't get so worked up about something that happened in the first preseason game. Watch Nick Barnett on the first play of the game. Sometimes veterans miss things too.
                    He needs the excuse to back off from FIVE YEARS of predictions.... And they've only played ONE preseason game?

                    Fuck that. This team is stacked. BU will step up, or someone else will.

                    We're winning Baby! Don't miss the bus!
                    I really hope we get Harris back and that he doesn't reinjure anything. That said, when he was out with his spleen, TWill stepped up big. (ok, it took him a couple games, but he did it.) I think we'll be just fine.
                    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                    • #25
                      It's not T-
                      Will; it's everyone else who then has to step up a notch above his level. BU would be an awesome dime back - but as a nickel back?
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Fritz
                        It's not T-
                        Will; it's everyone else who then has to step up a notch above his level. BU would be an awesome dime back - but as a nickel back?
                        I don't think there's a ton of teams in the league whose #3 WR would consistently burn Underwood. Of course I expect it will happen from time to time, and I've watched Al and Chuck get burnt from time to time also. But I don't expect it to be a regular occurance.

                        The benefit to Underwood and the rest of the guys fighting for playing time is that they practice against perhaps the best #3 and #4 WR's the league has to offer day in and day out. Same goes for the QB throwing to them. They aren't going to see anything better in a game than they do during practice. That's a real asset to them. It means nothing if it doesn't translate to their play on the field on gameday, of course. But if they're working as hard as they need to be during practice, I'd assume they'll be well prepared on Sundays.
                        Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Gunakor
                          Originally posted by Fritz
                          It's not T-
                          Will; it's everyone else who then has to step up a notch above his level. BU would be an awesome dime back - but as a nickel back?
                          I don't think there's a ton of teams in the league whose #3 WR would consistently burn Underwood. Of course I expect it will happen from time to time, and I've watched Al and Chuck get burnt from time to time also. But I don't expect it to be a regular occurance.

                          The benefit to Underwood and the rest of the guys fighting for playing time is that they practice against perhaps the best #3 and #4 WR's the league has to offer day in and day out. Same goes for the QB throwing to them. They aren't going to see anything better in a game than they do during practice. That's a real asset to them. It means nothing if it doesn't translate to their play on the field on gameday, of course. But if they're working as hard as they need to be during practice, I'd assume they'll be well prepared on Sundays.
                          Sometimes, we love our 3rd and 4th options a tad more than is reasonable. I love jordy and james, but the best in the league? I mean, even in our own division you have Percy Harvin in the slot, and he was really good last year. I am sure if I looked around the NFL, I could find other really good 3rd and 4th wr;s out there.

                          Here is another one I just remembered Cotchery for the Jets. Former starter, great hands, Mr. Reliable - unseeted by two "diva" type wr's who if they aren't starterse would turn into TO 2.0

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Gunakor
                            I don't think there's a ton of teams in the league whose #3 WR would consistently burn Underwood. Of course I expect it will happen from time to time, and I've watched Al and Chuck get burnt from time to time also. But I don't expect it to be a regular occurance.

                            The benefit to Underwood and the rest of the guys fighting for playing time is that they practice against perhaps the best #3 and #4 WR's the league has to offer day in and day out. Same goes for the QB throwing to them. They aren't going to see anything better in a game than they do during practice. That's a real asset to them. It means nothing if it doesn't translate to their play on the field on gameday, of course. But if they're working as hard as they need to be during practice, I'd assume they'll be well prepared on Sundays.
                            One of the best posts I've ever read around here. Really insightful. Thanks, Gunny.

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                            • #29
                              I went back and watched all of al's comeback videos again on NFPost.com and damn does he look ready to play. He's been doing alot of footwork drills and unless they are speeding up the video to make him look better than he is, he looks ready.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by packerbacker1234
                                Originally posted by Gunakor
                                Originally posted by Fritz
                                It's not T-
                                Will; it's everyone else who then has to step up a notch above his level. BU would be an awesome dime back - but as a nickel back?
                                I don't think there's a ton of teams in the league whose #3 WR would consistently burn Underwood. Of course I expect it will happen from time to time, and I've watched Al and Chuck get burnt from time to time also. But I don't expect it to be a regular occurance.

                                The benefit to Underwood and the rest of the guys fighting for playing time is that they practice against perhaps the best #3 and #4 WR's the league has to offer day in and day out. Same goes for the QB throwing to them. They aren't going to see anything better in a game than they do during practice. That's a real asset to them. It means nothing if it doesn't translate to their play on the field on gameday, of course. But if they're working as hard as they need to be during practice, I'd assume they'll be well prepared on Sundays.
                                Sometimes, we love our 3rd and 4th options a tad more than is reasonable. I love jordy and james, but the best in the league? I mean, even in our own division you have Percy Harvin in the slot, and he was really good last year. I am sure if I looked around the NFL, I could find other really good 3rd and 4th wr;s out there.

                                Here is another one I just remembered Cotchery for the Jets. Former starter, great hands, Mr. Reliable - unseeted by two "diva" type wr's who if they aren't starterse would turn into TO 2.0
                                Jets have an outstanding WR corps this year as well. Santonio Holmes, Cotchery, Braylon Edwards... They're gonna be good. And we play them in week 8, that's gonna be a tough matchup. However, they don't have the greatest QB in the world throwing them the ball. And the Jets are a running team first anyway.

                                Harvin is the real deal. But it won't be our nickel covering him. They'll stick T-Will on him and let BU cover Bernard Berrian, who IMO is EXTREMELY overrated. Berrian is no better than James Jones or Jordy Nelson. Not from what I see in him anyway.

                                Hell, I doubt by the time we face the Vikings that Harvin is still #3 on their depth chart anyway.
                                Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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