Not like you guys have enough Vikings fodder ......

[hoosier]

Walker apparently had surgery in Israel with the renowned Doctor Galea (the guy who was arrested for trying to bring HGH into the country from Canada) to replace cartilage in his knee. Walker now claims that his knee is back to where it was before he hurt it in 2006. Only problem is, Dr. Galea hasn't perfected his grey matter replacement technique yet.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/pos...l-knee-surgery

I wonder which procedure that is? I have read about several experimental ones, including one using synthetic cartilage and one using shark cartilage.

ESPN and NYT articles were conspicuously short on details. There is also an experimental procedure where they take out your own cartilage cells, grow them in a lab and then reinject them in the hope that the new cells will meld with the remaining cartilage. I guess the proof will be in the pudding.

[Patler]

There is also an experimental procedure where they take out your own cartilage cells, grow them in a lab and then reinject them in the hope that the new cells will meld with the remaining cartilage. I guess the proof will be in the pudding.

Ya, I read about that one, too; but my understanding is that it takes quite a long time from beginning to positive effects. Do you know much about it?

[hoosier]

There is also an experimental procedure where they take out your own cartilage cells, grow them in a lab and then reinject them in the hope that the new cells will meld with the remaining cartilage. I guess the proof will be in the pudding.

Ya, I read about that one, too; but my understanding is that it takes quite a long time from beginning to positive effects. Do you know much about it?

No, just what I've read online. From what I've seen, the ACI techniques that have been used in the US and Canada have not shown better results than other techniques such as microfracture surgery (which is supposed to help the knee regenerate cartilage on its own). But maybe what's-his-name in Jerusalem has something newer and better.

[get louder at lambeau]

But maybe what's-his-name in Jerusalem has something newer and better.

Jesus? All he does is faith healing. Nothing new about that, just the power of positive thinking in naive people who desperately want to believe in something. He probably just smacked Walker in the forehead with the palm of his hand and yelled "You are HEALED!"

[denverYooper]

Now all we need is the Williamses' suspensions to go through.

[get louder at lambeau]

Now all we need is the Williamses' suspensions to go through.

That would be nice. Forgot about them. Where is that process at right now?

[bobblehead]

Did you theoretically get big muscles, too?

I theoretically would have been unable to lift during that time but might have dropped 3 pounds....which I have about 20 to go.

[bobblehead]

There is also an experimental procedure where they take out your own cartilage cells, grow them in a lab and then reinject them in the hope that the new cells will meld with the remaining cartilage. I guess the proof will be in the pudding.

Ya, I read about that one, too; but my understanding is that it takes quite a long time from beginning to positive effects. Do you know much about it?

No, just what I've read online. From what I've seen, the ACI techniques that have been used in the US and Canada have not shown better results than other techniques such as microfracture surgery (which is supposed to help the knee regenerate cartilage on its own). But maybe what's-his-name in Jerusalem has something newer and better.

I've also read of a company in Colorado that harvests stem cells from your marrow (through the hip) and cultures them, then injects them in a series of 4? injections that has shown great promise.

[hoosier]

There is also an experimental procedure where they take out your own cartilage cells, grow them in a lab and then reinject them in the hope that the new cells will meld with the remaining cartilage. I guess the proof will be in the pudding.

Ya, I read about that one, too; but my understanding is that it takes quite a long time from beginning to positive effects. Do you know much about it?

No, just what I've read online. From what I've seen, the ACI techniques that have been used in the US and Canada have not shown better results than other techniques such as microfracture surgery (which is supposed to help the knee regenerate cartilage on its own). But maybe what's-his-name in Jerusalem has something newer and better.

I've also read of a company in Colorado that harvests stem cells from your marrow (through the hip) and cultures them, then injects them in a series of 4? injections that has shown great promise.

I would think they could just get those same cells from the peripheral blood supply. Why go digging around in the hip bone.

[Patler]

There is also an experimental procedure where they take out your own cartilage cells, grow them in a lab and then reinject them in the hope that the new cells will meld with the remaining cartilage. I guess the proof will be in the pudding.

Ya, I read about that one, too; but my understanding is that it takes quite a long time from beginning to positive effects. Do you know much about it?

No, just what I've read online. From what I've seen, the ACI techniques that have been used in the US and Canada have not shown better results than other techniques such as microfracture surgery (which is supposed to help the knee regenerate cartilage on its own). But maybe what's-his-name in Jerusalem has something newer and better.

I've also read of a company in Colorado that harvests stem cells from your marrow (through the hip) and cultures them, then injects them in a series of 4? injections that has shown great promise.

I would think they could just get those same cells from the peripheral blood supply. Why go digging around in the hip bone.

I was told at one time that all flat bones, like the hip have a higher concentration of red marrow in adults than their round bones do and the red marrow is a better source of stem cells and other "young" cells more capable of doing what they want them to do. As a result, for some procedures, they still like to use hip marrow.

[jmbarnes101]

Unless you have leukemia like I do in which case using hip marrow for anything is worthless.

[gbgary]

Unless you have leukemia like I do in which case using hip marrow for anything is worthless.

good luck in your fight!

[Little Whiskey]

Unless you have leukemia like I do in which case using hip marrow for anything is worthless.

good luck in your fight!

+1

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sorry to hear about that. Hope things are going well in your fight.

[Tarlam!]

I honestly don't know what to write.