Moll & Meredith - valuable backups

[bobblehead]

Somehow, the staff apparently didn't get through to Meredith. After going to Buffalo, he talked about being confused in GB, but quickly having a better understanding about schemes in Buffalo. That article raised a lot of questions in my mind.

this wouldn't be aimed straight at mr. campen would it?

[red]

Somehow, the staff apparently didn't get through to Meredith. After going to Buffalo, he talked about being confused in GB, but quickly having a better understanding about schemes in Buffalo. That article raised a lot of questions in my mind.

didn't we give up on him really quickly? i don't even remember him making it to preseason

cutting him shocked me, i thought he was a great pick and a guy that could develop nicely

[Patler]

Somehow, the staff apparently didn't get through to Meredith. After going to Buffalo, he talked about being confused in GB, but quickly having a better understanding about schemes in Buffalo. That article raised a lot of questions in my mind.

this wouldn't be aimed straight at mr. campen would it?

ME? Complain about Campen??

[Fritz]

This thread is getting confusing. I think if we moved it to Buffalo I would understand it better.

[retailguy]

Personally, I believe that there has been too much talent on the OL that has run through GB for there not to be some issues with coaching.

If you believe, and I do, that every single draft pick has the TALENT to succeed in the NFL, then, the two most important criteria are work ethic and coaching. One is controllable by the player and one is not.

Some of the failure, even just if it's statistically, has to be attributed to the coaching staff.

If the OL problems are not solved, maybe Campen and Favre should go deer hunting this year in brown leather jackets...

Seriously, we've waited long enough for a good OL. There are no more excuses.

[ThunderDan]

Somehow, the staff apparently didn't get through to Meredith. After going to Buffalo, he talked about being confused in GB, but quickly having a better understanding about schemes in Buffalo. That article raised a lot of questions in my mind.

didn't we give up on him really quickly? i don't even remember him making it to preseason

cutting him shocked me, i thought he was a great pick and a guy that could develop nicely

Meredith was on the PS and the Bills claimed him.

[retailguy]

Somehow, the staff apparently didn't get through to Meredith. After going to Buffalo, he talked about being confused in GB, but quickly having a better understanding about schemes in Buffalo. That article raised a lot of questions in my mind.

didn't we give up on him really quickly? i don't even remember him making it to preseason

cutting him shocked me, i thought he was a great pick and a guy that could develop nicely

Meredith was on the PS and the Bills claimed him.

That's true, Dan. But to get on the PS, you have to pass through waivers, which means you have to be cut.

Usually, rookies get a year to develop, but he didn't. I think that's the point.

[Patler]

Somehow, the staff apparently didn't get through to Meredith. After going to Buffalo, he talked about being confused in GB, but quickly having a better understanding about schemes in Buffalo. That article raised a lot of questions in my mind.

didn't we give up on him really quickly? i don't even remember him making it to preseason

cutting him shocked me, i thought he was a great pick and a guy that could develop nicely

Meredith was on the PS and the Bills claimed him.

You don't claim someone off a practice squad, you offer them a contract. There have been instances in which, for one reason or another, the player declines, or, more commonly, the first team offers an equal or better contract. That happened for the Packers a few years ago, but I can't remember which player it was.

When Meredith left, the Packers admitted they made no counteroffer,even though at the time they were hurting for tackles. They got Meredith in by drafting him, then completely lost interest in him.

[Smidgeon]

Somehow, the staff apparently didn't get through to Meredith. After going to Buffalo, he talked about being confused in GB, but quickly having a better understanding about schemes in Buffalo. That article raised a lot of questions in my mind.

didn't we give up on him really quickly? i don't even remember him making it to preseason

cutting him shocked me, i thought he was a great pick and a guy that could develop nicely

Meredith was on the PS and the Bills claimed him.

You don't claim someone off a practice squad, you offer them a contract. There have been instances in which, for one reason or another, the player declines, or, more commonly, the first team offers an equal or better contract. That happened for the Packers a few years ago, but I can't remember which player it was.

When Meredith left, the Packers admitted they made no counteroffer,even though at the time they were hurting for tackles. They got Meredith in by drafting him, then completely lost interest in him.

Lasanah

[Patler]

Somehow, the staff apparently didn't get through to Meredith. After going to Buffalo, he talked about being confused in GB, but quickly having a better understanding about schemes in Buffalo. That article raised a lot of questions in my mind.

didn't we give up on him really quickly? i don't even remember him making it to preseason

cutting him shocked me, i thought he was a great pick and a guy that could develop nicely

Meredith was on the PS and the Bills claimed him.

You don't claim someone off a practice squad, you offer them a contract. There have been instances in which, for one reason or another, the player declines, or, more commonly, the first team offers an equal or better contract. That happened for the Packers a few years ago, but I can't remember which player it was.

When Meredith left, the Packers admitted they made no counteroffer,even though at the time they were hurting for tackles. They got Meredith in by drafting him, then completely lost interest in him.

Lasanah

Yup, that's the guy! Thanks!

[ThunderDan]

Somehow, the staff apparently didn't get through to Meredith. After going to Buffalo, he talked about being confused in GB, but quickly having a better understanding about schemes in Buffalo. That article raised a lot of questions in my mind.

didn't we give up on him really quickly? i don't even remember him making it to preseason

cutting him shocked me, i thought he was a great pick and a guy that could develop nicely

Meredith was on the PS and the Bills claimed him.

You don't claim someone off a practice squad, you offer them a contract. There have been instances in which, for one reason or another, the player declines, or, more commonly, the first team offers an equal or better contract. That happened for the Packers a few years ago, but I can't remember which player it was.

When Meredith left, the Packers admitted they made no counteroffer,even though at the time they were hurting for tackles. They got Meredith in by drafting him, then completely lost interest in him.

Claim in my sentence meant "taken/offered a contract" not claimed in the waiver wire sense.

Meredith was horrible in the preseason. He was draft as a project and was so bad that the Packers thought they could easily stash him on the PS and no one would grab him. I think this points more to the value of the LT in the NFL than to any potential Meredith had. Buffalo was hurting and I am sure they looked at any and all LT possibilities before signing Meredith because his preseason tape was god awful.

[sharpe1027]

You don't claim someone off a practice squad, you offer them a contract. There have been instances in which, for one reason or another, the player declines, or, more commonly, the first team offers an equal or better contract. That happened for the Packers a few years ago, but I can't remember which player it was.

I think the that happened with Brohm, but he didn't take the Packer's counter offer.

[Deputy Nutz]

The growth of the Packers home grown offensive linemen have been below average at best under Thompson and McCarthy.

One of those reasons is that Thompson looks for the gems towards the end of the draft. Guys Like Colledge, and Spitz have so far made it this far because they are simply more talented than guys like Moll, Meredith, Gio, and Babre. Even with that they have not performed like the fans of the Packers have hoped. Spitz is basically auditioning for another team, and Colledge is being replaced by Bulga who was supposed to be the primary backup at left tackle.

Whether it Campen or the fact that Thompson has just missed on his offensive linemen I don't know but none of them breed confidence that when Tauscher and Clifton play their last snaps for the Packers that they will be replaced with capable offensive linemen.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I like our OL this year. I think they'll surprise a lot of people. I like our 8 deep with room for a project or two.

[retailguy]

I like our OL this year. I think they'll surprise a lot of people. I like our 8 deep with room for a project or two.

Well, I like Sitton a lot. Wells just plays, he's one of those guys that Wolf always said he'd replace as soon as he could, but the guy just keeps playing. Ciffy & Tausch are getting old but still have been reliable. I think Lang has a bright future, and I'm hoping that this pre-season is just the effects of his injury. Bulaga seems to be as advertised. Too soon to have an opinion on Newhouse. Staff seems to like EDS but I am not sure I've ever watched the guy play. Again, no opinon.

I think the above is the core of the OL.

That leaves Spitz, Colledge, Gio, and barbre. The last two aren't fit for an NFL roster. That's disappointing from the early TC praise we had for Gio. They're gone and should be. I was semi ok with Colledge (certainly not a fan) until last seasons debacle. I kept thinking the guy would eventually get it together. After watching that, I was done. I'd trade the guy for a ham sandwich. Spitz is an enigma. He has this tough guy reputation with the GB media. I don't see it, and am not sure I ever have. He's been hurt repeatedly. I still think the guy would be OK, if he stayed healthy. Good to great? Probably not, but an OK backup if healthy.

Yeah, they "should" be good. But we've been saying that for 3 years now. It's time. They had better play well. No more excuses not to do that.