Bert's antics have pissed me off, but nothing tops the deep seated hate of the Bears. Of course living in Illinois in 1985 burned the hate in me. I haven't lived in Minnesota when the Vikings won a Super Bowl to burn the same level of hate in me.
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Neither has anyone else on the entire planet.Originally posted by MadScientistBert's antics have pissed me off, but nothing tops the deep seated hate of the Bears. Of course living in Illinois in 1985 burned the hate in me. I haven't lived in Minnesota when the Vikings won a Super Bowl to burn the same level of hate in me.
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Hate the Vikings, respect the Bears franchise and history.
After 14 years in Michigan, I feel bad for the fans who still faithfully show up to watch every game. Yes attendance has dwindled a bit (economy pitched in there too), but not nearly as much as it would have in other divisions or cities.
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Well to put it clearly " I'm a Christian ". Jesus asked me to love. That leaves no room for hatred. As a matter of fact. I don't hate anything now. I used to hate the veggie squash and rice pudding with raisins when I was growing up. I would be severely challenged ' in myself ', if I felt such a strong and negative emotion in terms of my faith; especially when it comes to Pro Sports teams or people. Hate? Come on folks. Not in me.
At the same time I accept many Packerrats need to feel that negative emotion. Hate away and see where it gets you !
I refuse to hate. Rather, I sometimes am confused or challenged to understand ' some thing ' or ' some people '. I don't choose to hate because I don't understand something or am against some things.
My spirituality is also honed by my long time interest in martial arts and the PEACE I gain from being relaxed and meditative. Martial arts has taught me this. Hatred defeats good karma Packerrats. It makes you uptight and that is counterproductive to achieving the best result for you. It winds you on the losing side more often than not. Hatred inspires the competitor to excel against you; as he/she takes strength from your ugly emotion. He/she see's how pathetic you are and takes no mercy in the theater of sports. It's far better to hope for 'the best result' in terms of your dedication to your team and feel positive about it's management's decisions. Hatred? It's a losing game trumped by being to ' the cool ' or simply enjoying the competition.
It's also a cultural thing. I'm a Canadian and ' the hate word ' isn't one I often hear from my fellow citizens. I'm also in a committed relationship with an American woman who resides in Vermont, USA. She's also a Christian and doesn't, as a result of her convictions, ethics and morals ....hate.
Rednecks hate. Few Canadians are associated with egoism that is sexist, racist or otherwise of prejudice and vile thinking or behaviour. That's why Canadians are so respected around the world. Many Americans are aware of that as ' a fact ' of their lives and take advantage of that knowledge. Are you aware that many smart Americans wear ' the Maple Leaf ', when traveling to a foreign country? It just makes travel a whole lot easier to be recognized as a Canadian. Of course, there's 'the flip side'. Rednecks from some countries attack the Canadian; but we handle such nonsense with style and often humor. WE know who we are and are really proud of that status we owe our forefathers. The manner and distinction in which our Canadian soldiers represented Canada in the Great Wars.
I read it , ' that hate word ' here constantly. I'm a dedicated PackerRat so it comes parcel and parcel. Hate away Packerrats . Hate me for my convictions for that matter. Hate away and chew yourself up.
Yup... that emotion is a part of being a member of Packerrats. Even us who refuse to hate are challenged to exist in this environment. We've lost top qualityn posters because of the hatred expressed here. Way to go with that result, Boys and girl.
Congratulations are not in order from this member of a Packer fan site. A Packer fan website that I derive a great deal of pleasure from and allows me to be a growing NFL fan, and competitive with other members here. I have and do otherwise, learn alot here fr. certain members. Unfortunately, or sadly for me. Some of the strongest posters are more than less absent now from PackerRats because of your hatred. Handle that. A spade for a spade. Two of the best I enjoyed here were Nutz and Bretzky. I enjoyed seeing a Viking fan ( Rastak) contribute so much and compete so well in the Pro Pickem' challenge. In my view, the ultimate challenge and competitive venue that's offered here and make's a long Canadian / Vermont winter shorter. My second choice for a challenge is the Survivor Challenge. Gee didn't a Canadian win that one last season? Imagine that. Did it have anything to do with karma? Well as my memory recalls it. It came down to another competitive PackerRat that I respect. Superfan was runner-up to my Canadian friend Guiness.
Any other Canadian fans here at PackerRats that hate another team?
Now I will state this. I have alot of difficulty pulling for the likes of ' da Bears' or 'the Cowboys' at any time.
I've alot of history with the Packers as a dedicated Packer fan (51 years) and those teams.
I don't want to see da Bears win our division. They won't for some time because they traded away their immediate future for a QB that has alot of pressure on him this season. The Cowboys may offer us a challenge this season. Ouch!
So, as I expecteed the most hated team is ' the Vikings '. Is it worth it PackerRats? We lost a solid member (maybe) because of your hate. RASTAK is gone. Nice work boys, and you too girl.
You don't like this? You'll ' just ' ... have to eat it. Why is that now you may ask yourself? Well it's just this for me. I eat your hatred; and I've done so for the past two seasons and counting, all over, such pathetic nonsense. You fail still, to acknowledge ' the all too obvious '. TT and the Packer organization went against Brett Favre in favor of Aaron Rodgers. That has proven to be a good move for TT as far as it appears today, and despite what appearance can really come to mean in the end. The move to Aaron Rodgers, that was ' by the way ', inivetible. That move may prove out all the way to a Super Bowl. If only you haters stop the damn hatred and just enjoy the competition in the true spirit of what sport really is all about.
All your hatred will do is fuel the Vikings and Brett Favre to shove it down your throats again this season. Be prepared ' just for ' that result. Your helping to set ' just that ' up. Your hatred. That's counterproductive to what I hope for. A better result for our team than we enjoyed last season from a more decent manner or way of expressing yourself as a dedicated Packer fan. You don't force wins ' by hating ' Packerrats. You focus much more effectively or positively.
Of course, many of you are much younger than me. You may learn. I'm confident that I'll keep pullin' for y'all despite your ways that cramps the KARMA we need for a more positive result.
I've learned alot in my life and this applies to this thread. Karma and common sense, based in higher learning and thinking ... RULES in this world, generally.
Hatred sets us up for 'the fall'. I won't tell you I told you so at season's end.
My name is Ed. woodbuck27
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Bad is hate, yes.Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWow, someone has a Yoda complex.
Apparently hate is bad, but condescension is O.K.
Too funny."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Funny that Woody would put that kind of effort (helluva post there) into why he doesn't hate and why Brett Favre/Jon Ryan/Jesus should be loved...
What about the Packers? Loving them???? Should be so easy for a guy like you; you know, so positive.
Anyway, I obviously hate the Vikings most. Then Bears because most of my family were Bears fans growing up (I lived in So.Wisconsin). Got spit on as a kid when my uncles would take me to Soldier Field (multiple times) and cussed at in the bathroom (I was like 12). Nothing worse than a fat POS Bears fan IMO.
Vikings fans are more lovable. They're like children -- so young, so new, so naive. Should see my aunt, she lives up there. So cute with her Favre jerseys and doesn't know a damn thing about football. There's not a more bandwagon group in the entire league... especially a group with such a limited knowledge of actual football.
It's kind of like me being a Braves fan. My wife is diehard, I got a super mancrush on this Heyward kid and it's been easy (well, not anymore) to follow them every day living in town and cheating on the Brewers. She took the Packers not having a team growing up and it's been a good compromise.
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Even though I grew up as a Packer fan in Illinois, the Vikings are the big rivalry, and have been since Moss/Hovan/Carter etc. Besides, can you truly hate a team whose coach is named Lovie?I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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