Clifton Smith a Packer?

[vince]

He got it done on teh field in the past, but its hard to get upset about this one. The guy certainly has some flags.

[Fritz]

Yes, the concussions and the fumbles. If you want a speedy guy with some shiftiness who may have a hard time hanging on to the ball, there's a FA out there named Jason Chery.

[get louder at lambeau]

Yes, the concussions and the fumbles. If you want a speedy guy with some shiftiness who may have a hard time hanging on to the ball, there's a FA out there named Jason Chery.

And possibly more so, the knees. He missed 2 of 4 games this preseason because of knee problems.

[Patler]

Yes, the concussions and the fumbles. If you want a speedy guy with some shiftiness who may have a hard time hanging on to the ball, there's a FA out there named Jason Chery.

And possibly more so, the knees. He missed 2 of 4 games this preseason because of knee problems.

True he missed games because of his knees, but not due to injury. He had gout (which I thought was more of a foot/ankle problem than knees).

[Packers4Glory]

yeah why sign a guy who can return kicks and punts..lets put Nelson back there and maybe Jennings to get hurt and hurt the offense. brilliant.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Put Driver there. That guy can juck the shit out of people.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Miami Dolphins signed former Pro Bowl kick returner Clifton Smith and cut offensive tackle Joe Reitz.

[HarveyWallbangers]

After week #1:

Clifton Smith = 15.0 KO return avg
Jordy Nelson = 31.2 KO return avg

PUNT RETURNS
Clifton Smith = 4.5 punt return avg
Tramon Williams = 10.0 punt return avg

[steve823]

After week #1:

Clifton Smith = 15.0 KO return avg
Jordy Nelson = 31.2 KO return avg

PUNT RETURNS
Clifton Smith = 4.5 punt return avg
Tramon Williams = 10.0 punt return avg

Ya , but you can also argue that if you put someone with actually speed back there with the blocking our ST had, they would've scored twice or got even more yards.

But hey I'll take it, our ST looked great. Who would've thought that !

[Smidgeon]

After week #1:

Clifton Smith = 15.0 KO return avg
Jordy Nelson = 31.2 KO return avg

PUNT RETURNS
Clifton Smith = 4.5 punt return avg
Tramon Williams = 10.0 punt return avg

Ya , but you can also argue that if you put someone with actually speed back there with the blocking our ST had, they would've scored twice or got even more yards.

But hey I'll take it, our ST looked great. Who would've thought that !

Actual speed? Per another poster in another thread, Jordy's combine 40 was 4.47 and still holds the state records for HS 100m. That's fast enough for ST.

[channtheman]

After week #1:

Clifton Smith = 15.0 KO return avg
Jordy Nelson = 31.2 KO return avg

PUNT RETURNS
Clifton Smith = 4.5 punt return avg
Tramon Williams = 10.0 punt return avg

Ya , but you can also argue that if you put someone with actually speed back there with the blocking our ST had, they would've scored twice or got even more yards.

But hey I'll take it, our ST looked great. Who would've thought that !

My dad told kept telling me if we had Desmond Howard back there (he was reliving the Super Bowl year) that we would had scored 2 or 3 TD's on kickoff returns.

[Patler]

After week #1:

Clifton Smith = 15.0 KO return avg
Jordy Nelson = 31.2 KO return avg

PUNT RETURNS
Clifton Smith = 4.5 punt return avg
Tramon Williams = 10.0 punt return avg

Ya , but you can also argue that if you put someone with actually speed back there with the blocking our ST had, they would've scored twice or got even more yards.

But hey I'll take it, our ST looked great. Who would've thought that !

My dad told kept telling me if we had Desmond Howard back there (he was reliving the Super Bowl year) that we would had scored 2 or 3 TD's on kickoff returns.

Assuming a faster, shiftier runner got to the spots where Nelson was tackled, yes they may have gone all the way. The problem with that assumption is that getting to where Nelson was tackled resulted more from timing with the blockers, reliance on the return plan and vision for seeing the lanes than it did on speed. A faster return man may not have done those things as well as Nelson did last week and may have run up the backside of blockers too soon and been tackled much earlier, or he may have gone all the way untouched. Neither one is a certainty.

[mraynrand]

After week #1:

Clifton Smith = 15.0 KO return avg
Jordy Nelson = 31.2 KO return avg

PUNT RETURNS
Clifton Smith = 4.5 punt return avg
Tramon Williams = 10.0 punt return avg

Ya , but you can also argue that if you put someone with actually speed back there with the blocking our ST had, they would've scored twice or got even more yards.

But hey I'll take it, our ST looked great. Who would've thought that !

My dad told kept telling me if we had Desmond Howard back there (he was reliving the Super Bowl year) that we would had scored 2 or 3 TD's on kickoff returns.

Assuming a faster, shiftier runner got to the spots where Nelson was tackled, yes they may have gone all the way. The problem with that assumption is that getting to where Nelson was tackled resulted more from timing with the blockers, reliance on the return plan and vision for seeing the lanes than it did on speed. A faster return man may not have done those things as well as Nelson did last week and may have run up the backside of blockers too soon and been tackled much earlier, or he may have gone all the way untouched. Neither one is a certainty.

Love Desmond Howard - he made a lot of plays. But there were a lot of his returns that were blocked up perfectly. Did anyone actually watch Smith last week? Have to see the whole thing to know why his return numbers were low.

[woodbuck27]

never heard of him but that's good news. better than having guys we're semi-counting on back there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifton_Smith_(running_back)

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/player/clifton/smith/9168/

[retailguy]

Love Desmond Howard - he made a lot of plays. But there were a lot of his returns that were blocked up perfectly. Did anyone actually watch Smith last week? Have to see the whole thing to know why his return numbers were low.

His return numbers were low because he rejected the Green Bay Packers and God is punishing him.

Happens all the time.