TT's Roster - Is It What You Thought? (Link added)

[Joemailman]

Re: TT's Roster - Is It What You Thought? (Link added)

Not a bad list.

I don't know that I would put Cullen Jenkins at #7. Injuries and inconsistent play would move him down a few notches on my list, but I can understand why he is there.

Agree about Jenkins. If healthy, he belongs up there, but it's a big if. Brad Jones ahead of Josh Sitton seems strange. Sitton was the Packers best O-Lineman last year. Jones played okay in 7 games.

[Brandon494]

Not much of a distinction, #3 vs #4 in terms of "importance" to the team, which is what they rated, not performance. I would dispute that a lot. In terms of importance to this roster, this year, I think Mathews is much more important to the team.

I agree Clay is more important to the team because we have no depth at his position but I still believe Finley is the more talented player. Anyway who cares they are both Packers

[vince]

Here are some more "interesting" facts about the roster from Bob McGinn.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/102503459.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_term=packers

Twenty-one players on the 53-man roster entered the NFL as “premium” draft choices in the first three rounds.

In 1996, when the Packers won the Super Bowl, their opening-day 53 included 25 draft picks, 12 free agents, six unrestricted free agents, five trade acquisitions, four waivers claims and one “Plan B” free agent.

The three-man crew of undrafted rookies is the most in Green Bay on the opening 53 since 2002 when RB Tony Fisher, T Kevin Barry and LB Marcus Wilkins made the grade.

Before that, you have to go back to 1994 to find a year when three rookie free agents survived the final cut.

The Packers average 25.91 years, making them slightly older than in the past four years but still among the NFL’s youngest teams.

By position, here are the average ages on the 53: Wide receiver, 27.4 years; offensive line, 26.2; linebackers, 26.1; running backs, defensive line and secondary, all 25.8; quarterbacks, 25.5; specialists, 24.7, and tight ends, 24.5.

The offense averages 26.04 years and the defense averages 25.92

[pbmax]

Score another one for Patler.

JSO - Bob McGinn - Packers Decline Leftovers

Using players on 53-man rosters as of Wednesday, STATS computed the average age to years and days, not just years. According to STATS, Green Bay currently ranks sixth youngest, far behind Carolina.

McGinn also mentions the NFL numbers and by inference, seems to suggest that the NFL ignores the months and just calculates based on years.

[Little Whiskey]

quarterbacks, 25.5 years

good thing they got that number down!

[vince]

That was a good article by McGinn.

Thompson at Co. have done a superior job drafting as McGinn demonstrates. While focusing on the draft and comparing that to unrestricted free agent signings and trades, McGinn kind of glossed over the fact that they also have done a very good job finding 11 undrafted free agents and waiver claims that are on the team.

McGinn's statement about the team being the envy of more than a few GM's is a big contrast from his article last offseason arguing that the state of the team was the worst in 25 years.

[falco]

It is what we thought it was!!!!

[MichiganPackerFan]

I thought percentages might stimulate discussion, so I threw them in. Glad they helped.

When I look at numbers like that the ratios, percentages, etc. are sort of an automatic for me. Not necessarily the exact number, but the proportionality of the relationships. I guess that's why numbers are so revealing to me as a foundation for concepts.

You know, it should have been easy for me to see that too, especially considering a denominator of about 50. I guess because its tax season, its just bounced off me.

I'd like to see him snag more free agents if 1) they can improve the team AND 2) The contract does not harm the team more in the future than the player helps the team now. The exception is, if you need one player to win EVERYTHING now, go all in and take a shot at the title. Sherman overpaid and overpaid and really crippled the team for a few years. Thompson has built it to a point where it can be annually competitive.

[sharpe1027]

McGinn's statement about the team being the envy of more than a few GM's is a big contrast from his article last offseason arguing that the state of the team was the worst in 25 years.

They must have really brought in a ton of top players this past year to make that much of a the difference.

[Joemailman]

McGinn's statement about the team being the envy of more than a few GM's is a big contrast from his article last offseason arguing that the state of the team was the worst in 25 years.

They must have really brought in a ton of top players this past year to make that much of a the difference.

Justin Harrell's healthy. :P

[Fritz]

I read Vandermause's most recent "chat" transcript this morning. It was stunning to me how many "questions" centered on Thompson' mulish failure to go out and get a cornerback, a returner, and some outside linebacker help.

The sense is that he's failed, and almost deliberately. There was the usual mush that he doesn't care much about special teams, and that he just doesn't like trying to bring players in to Green Bay either because he doesn't want to spend the money or he loves his own players more, although (it is implied) the current players suck. One person called Thompson's entire offseason a "failure" and wondered why he didn't draft some corners and OLB's and a return man.

Yet every single draft pick Thompson chose had made the team, and one will be a starter. Two others look to contribute heavily. That's failure?

And had Thompson drafted those guys, how many people would be bitching that Ted doesn't ever spend first round picks on offensive linemen, when everyone knows that's how it's done?

By the tone of the questions, it'd seem Green Bay was coming off a 4-12 season with no hope at all.

I'm amazed. Pessimism and antagonism run deep, apparently.

[sharpe1027]

TT is not a good PR man. At least he seems good at finding quality NFL players.

[get louder at lambeau]

McGinn's statement about the team being the envy of more than a few GM's is a big contrast from his article last offseason arguing that the state of the team was the worst in 25 years.

That would be fun to review a year later. Ya got a link?

[vince]

McGinn's statement about the team being the envy of more than a few GM's is a big contrast from his article last offseason arguing that the state of the team was the worst in 25 years.

That would be fun to review a year later. Ya got a link?

I looked for it awhile back and couldn't seem to find it. I should go back through threads here, because I'm pretty sure it was linked to. It was back in January or February of last year, early in the offseason as I recall. I seem to remember there being something like "State of the Packers" in the title, but I could be wrong. I distinctly remember the message he was delivering though. I'll look harder this time and see if I can find it. I'd like to review it again too.

[get louder at lambeau]

McGinn's statement about the team being the envy of more than a few GM's is a big contrast from his article last offseason arguing that the state of the team was the worst in 25 years.

That would be fun to review a year later. Ya got a link?

I looked for it awhile back and couldn't seem to find it. I should go back through threads here, because I'm pretty sure it was linked to. It was back in January or February of last year, early in the offseason as I recall. I seem to remember there being something like "State of the Packers" in the title, but I could be wrong. I distinctly remember the message he was delivering though. I'll look harder this time and see if I can find it. I'd like to review it again too.

If you can find it, we should email it to McGinn for him to review as well.