Harrell thinks he tore his ACL

[Patler]

I'm not even sure that red's point was the number of games, but, rather the frequency.

Like Cullen Jenkins, the guy is always banged up except for 2005, it goes back to high school.

I wonder if the guys body just can't take the weight necessary for him to play DE? Not sure.

Cullen is hurt again too. Guy is always banged up. Tough SOB always plays through it if he can, but something isn't right, you know?

So if someone said that Jenkins is always hurt, I wouldn't disagree with them, but I do admire Jenkins for playing through it as much as he had.

Ya, I can agree with that. But I think linemen, especially DL are banged up every year. They get hit from all different directions. Pickett is always hobbling by the end of the year. Jenkins has played through some stuff, but not always real well. A couple years ago, (last D coaching group) the coaches implied he let little injuries affect him too much.

Some guys have chronic problems. With Harrell, it has been a series of different things.

[pbmax]

I'm not even sure that red's point was the number of games, but, rather the frequency.

Like Cullen Jenkins, the guy is always banged up except for 2005, it goes back to high school.

I wonder if the guys body just can't take the weight necessary for him to play DE? Not sure.

Cullen is hurt again too. Guy is always banged up. Tough SOB always plays through it if he can, but something isn't right, you know?

So if someone said that Jenkins is always hurt, I wouldn't disagree with them, but I do admire Jenkins for playing through it as much as he had.

The problem with JSO's list for frequency is that all players have a list like that. The real questions are 1) did they play and 2) did they play well?

Harrell has had both injuries he couldn't play through and those he did. The only piece of info that looks remotely interesting in the JSO piece is the fact that his back had bothered him in High School. I would like to know if it was the same kind of thing and if it kept him from playing then.

Otherwise, the list is simply a litany of typical injuries with two non typical ones thrown in. Not winnowing down the list with more detail is simply goading folks into an emotional reaction.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Anybody rewatch the play? Harrell was playing what amounts to RG in the FG formation, and a big pile of players came crashing down on his left leg. Harrell had stonewalled the guy in front of him, but the Eagles bullrushed Brett Goode and Goode and a couple of Eagles landed on Harrell's knee. It didn't look good.

[KYPack]

Anybody rewatch the play? Harrell was playing what amounts to RG in the FG formation, and a big pile of players came crashing down on his left leg. Harrell had stonewalled the guy in front of him, but the Eagles bullrushed Brett Goode and Goode and a couple of Eagles landed on Harrell's knee. It didn't look good.

I did.

(See my post on the previous page.)

[HarveyWallbangers]

Anybody rewatch the play? Harrell was playing what amounts to RG in the FG formation, and a big pile of players came crashing down on his left leg. Harrell had stonewalled the guy in front of him, but the Eagles bullrushed Brett Goode and Goode and a couple of Eagles landed on Harrell's knee. It didn't look good.

I did.

(See my post on the previous page.)

Funny. I missed that post, and I basically stated the same thing you did.

[SkinBasket]

Anyone else notice how poor a turn our defense took after Harrell came out? I would say, that according to well established Bigby-logic, that Harrell was the most important player on this defense and we are hereby fucked.

[Packman_26]

Does anyone else think that a potential new CBA will keep Harrell on the Packers next year? If the schedule is bumped to 18 games and roster limits get extended I think he has a decent chance of getting another shot.

[swede]

It makes one wonder what the NFL record is for games/seasons spent on the IR? Harrell would have to be closing in on that one. Isn't it Indy that has a good safety that has been on IR more than he has played?

[mraynrand]

It makes one wonder what the NFL record is for games/seasons spent on the IR?

I've wondered too:

[MichiganPackerFan]

I understand that some people feel this way, but I still feel bad for him. If he came across as a douche/asshole I would feel the way you do, but he always came across to me as a hard-working kid who couldn't shake his injuries. He also seemed very self-aware as far as how he was viewed.

Completely agree. Well stated.

I feel really awful for the guy. As a couple others have pointed out, when the guy did get on the field, he was effective. I also don't care for the way the JSO dismissed the injury as unimportant in its article on injuries from the game.

The guy was in the rotation. Imagine having him and Neal as backups this season. That would m ake for a powerful offensive line and help greatly the defensive backfield. It was a piece of bad luck for Harrell and the team. Not as bad as injuries to other players; nonetheless, it was important.

I'm going to be in the minority, probably, but I'm going to agree with gbgary and say put the guy on injured reserve, and bring him back next year. You have very little to lose.

I really hope he is able to rehab and gets a shot in training camp. I feel like honest hard work should be rewarded with opportunity.

[KYPack]

Anybody rewatch the play? Harrell was playing what amounts to RG in the FG formation, and a big pile of players came crashing down on his left leg. Harrell had stonewalled the guy in front of him, but the Eagles bullrushed Brett Goode and Goode and a couple of Eagles landed on Harrell's knee. It didn't look good.

I did.

(See my post on the previous page.)

Funny. I missed that post, and I basically stated the same thing you did.

Listen to me you mf'ers.

Every once in awhile, I know where the bear shit in the buckwheat.

It's OK it was you, Harve,

You are a tenured professor on here.

[swede]

It makes one wonder what the NFL record is for games/seasons spent on the IR?

I've wondered too:

Is that Eddie Lee?

[retailguy]

Every once in awhile, I know where the bear shit in the buckwheat.

Me too. I probably stepped in it before you got there.

[channtheman]

It makes one wonder what the NFL record is for games/seasons spent on the IR? Harrell would have to be closing in on that one. Isn't it Indy that has a good safety that has been on IR more than he has played?

Bob Sanders. Has played in only half of the possible games and I don't believe he has ever played a full 16 game schedule. The most was 14, if I remember correctly.

[Gunakor]

It makes one wonder what the NFL record is for games/seasons spent on the IR? Harrell would have to be closing in on that one. Isn't it Indy that has a good safety that has been on IR more than he has played?

Bob Sanders. Has played in only half of the possible games and I don't believe he has ever played a full 16 game schedule. The most was 14, if I remember correctly.

He won't play a full schedule this year either. He is out indefinitely after suffering a torn biceps in week 1.

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