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  • #61
    Originally posted by Guiness
    Originally posted by imscott72
    I wonder what Willie Parker is up to?
    You mean, since he got cut from the Redskins?

    No Thanks.

    I also like the idea of Lynch. He's young (24) former first rounder who has played well, and been in a Pro Bowl. He's also a good receiver, and, as a clincher, claims to love Applebee's!

    He's had some legal issues, but honestly, they were more stupidity than anything else. That, and a whack girlfriend who went loco on him, but who among us hasn't had one of those?

    I don't see why he's not worth a 3rd rounder.
    Anyone that has the good taste to appreciate Applebee's is an encouraging move for me. Will TT make such a move? Such a move would surprize me. TT won't give up much given at any risk. TT seems to prefer going with some form of unknown in a pinch situation.

    When you look at a recent thread here (and you work past the kool aid band); that's the one knock I've had against TT's managing style. He won't go to:

    " OK, let's move ahead with this loss to our team, or ' the all in approach '.

    Yes! TT has put together a team that's very close to getting to ' the show '. WE're all excited here for goood reason. I've been on record here as claiming that my concerns we're a) depth behind Ryan Grant and b) early season depth of real talent in our secondary.

    With this impact on concern a):

    TT should do more than bottom feed the decrease in RB depth. There's far too much at stake in a season where we are expected to advance. Ryan Grant isn't an insignificant loss. That's a serious loss given Grant's past production and fit in the Aaron Rodgers led offense.

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    • #62
      I love love LOVE the Brandon Jacobs idea. Trade Donald Lee and a low pick for Jacobs. Or go after Lynch for a 3rd round pick. I'm not sold on Tashard Choice, but Marion Barber would be a good pick up in a trade.

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      • #63
        In the preseason , the only team that was talked about in terms of looking to deal a starter-caliber back was Buffalo. They spent a 9th overall I believe to get CJ Spiller and they already had a two-back system going with Jackson and Lynch.

        They are playing at Lambeau this week. TT should just tell the Bills to permanently pack up Lynch and Jackson and whichever one hurts us the worst on Sunday stays here.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by imscott72
          Originally posted by packerbacker1234
          You know, I would not mind at all giving Green a call. I know he is playing in that one league, but we need some veteran depth behind jackson who can do some spot duty now. Green showed he still had some in the tank last year the few times he got in - he would be a nice fit for us this season in a reserve role. Much better than relying on PS guys.
          Some have mentioned he can't get out of his contract. Not sure how that works.
          The UFL has a six game season. While a player is on a UFL roster, they are ineligible (per contract) to join an NFL team. As soon as their season is over, they can sign onto an NFL team (JP Losman).
          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Guiness
            Originally posted by imscott72
            I wonder what Willie Parker is up to?
            You mean, since he got cut from the Redskins?

            No Thanks.

            I also like the idea of Lynch. He's young (24) former first rounder who has played well, and been in a Pro Bowl. He's also a good receiver, and, as a clincher, claims to love Applebee's!

            He's had some legal issues, but honestly, they were more stupidity than anything else. That, and a whack girlfriend who went loco on him, but who among us hasn't had one of those?

            I don't see why he's not worth a 3rd rounder.
            I'm not sure what I think about Lynch, but I do have faith in Bennett as a RB coach. His players seem to get better year after year. Maybe he could do something for Lynch that Curtis Modkins couldn't?
            No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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            • #66
              this one is tough... with surgery he'd be back in 3 months (i.e, December and playoffs). I get that we're not deep enough to protect the spot but it's a bummer that we could get him back and now it's not an option...
              The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
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              "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Guiness
                That, and a whack girlfriend who went loco on him, but who among us hasn't had one of those?
                Lori?
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                • #68
                  B Jack Career:

                  Att yards avg TD rec yards avg TD
                  175 689 3.9 4 69 514 7.4 1

                  Ran the 40 in 4.54 at his combine. Seems that he needs to be a stud and just take the one cut and NOT dance at all. He needs to hammer the holes made for him by Wells, Sitton and Colledge...non of these damn stretch plays. He can catch the ball out of the backfield and that seems to be an added versatility for MMs offense.

                  Big Questions for B Jack are can he shoulder the full load? Will he let the lingering, small injuries derail him or will he show how awesome he is!? One Cut B Jack and hit the hole thats it.


                  John Kuhn

                  Att yards avg TD rec yards avg TD
                  20 61 3.1 3 14 90 6.4 4

                  Short yardage back that will now be the #2 HB on the Pack. Solid hitter and can block. Kuhn accomplished a lot, in college, as the featured back, can catch and run the ball. Could be amazing between the tackles in a, wear down and put a nail in the coffin, guy to put away games that AR and the passing game already has us up in.

                  Big Question for Kuhn is can his limited play translate into a dominate change of pace back that bloodies and hurts opposing LBs? Will he force other teams to put 8 in the box so JF and the WRs run in single coverage?


                  I think that instead of the run setting up the passing game the passing game will set up the run ala our mid 90's teams. With the passing attack that AR and the boys will be putting together the running back will see 7 in the box. That means in a 3 WR set to put 8 in the box to stop B Jack and Kuhn they will have to single cover the WRs...We win that all day long. The Packers need roughly 80 yards a game running to keep it balanced and if we look at last years play calling split that means we only need to average 3 yards a carry (438 attempts in 16 games).

                  What do you all think?! I am not to worried right now, though I thought Grant was awesome what if this position turns into one that we can plug n play RBs? Would free up cash when the cap returns
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                  • #69
                    From Fox Sports

                    Options for Green Bay at RB — 3:34 p.m.

                    The Green Bay Packers only have two running backs on their 53-man roster and one of them will be lost for the season.

                    With starter Ryan Grant (ankle) gone, the team will turn to fourth-year RB Brandon Jackson to take over.

                    The team could look to sign RB James Johnson off their practice squad, but it remains to be seen if the team believes he’s ready to take on a significant role.

                    If Green Bay looks toward the free-agent market, here’s the list of the available players:

                    - Willie Parker – The veteran back was recently released by the Washington Redskins.
                    - Justin Fargas – He was recently released by the Denver Broncos.
                    - Ladell Betts – The veteran back was released by the New Orleans Saints a few weeks ago.
                    - Adrian Peterson – The long-time Chicago Bear was recently released by the Seattle Seahawks.
                    - Jamal Lewis – He was released by the Cleveland Browns earlier this year, but the indication was that he still wanted to play.
                    - DeDe Dorsey – He was recently waived by the Detroit Lions. He fits in as a change of pace.
                    - Dantrell Savage – The speedy back was recently waived by the Carolina Panthers.
                    - Kolby Smith – Smith has nine starts in his three years of play.
                    - Chris Jennings – The powerfully built back was recently waived by the Cleveland Browns.

                    From Fox Sports
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                    • #70
                      We need to wait 2 or 3 weeks at minimum to be able to make a trade. Starks won't be able to do much this year...when the guy comes off the PUP he won't have played organized football for like a year and a half. Every team right now thinks they can still make the playoffs. Once week 5 rolls around then I think we can get Marshawn for a 3rd or 4th...especially since Maroney was given away today.

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                      • #71
                        My concern is Jackson's durability. If he goes down, then we ARE in trouble.
                        +1

                        BJack gives more versatility with his pass-pro and hands, but I don't think he has the durability or ball security Grant does. Would like to see him stop dancing at the line, too.

                        I'm not sold on Nance as anything other than a stop-gap or a guy to spell BJack and Kuhn. ATL runs same run scheme, Nance should be able to pick it up quickly. It sounds like he pushed Norwood for a roster spot even though he's more of a tough yards guy than a speedster. Might be useful as we get into November.

                        With Starks hurt for so long, I'm not sure what he'll be able to contribute (if anything).

                        I think it's unreasonable to expect to replace Grant's numbers with someone off the retread pile (e.g., Green, Parker). Most of those players' best years are behind them. Getting someone who's a good fit for the ZBS is important as well. Don't know much about how well in-season trades for RB's work.

                        BUF or SEA have a bunch of backs. Think any of them will get traded?
                        Would Lynch or Brandon Jacobs be a good fit for ZBS?

                        While a trade wouldn't surprise me, I'm not counting on it.

                        I think M3 will go to much more of a RB committee. GB has to average 90-100 ypg to keep defenses honest, prevent them from pinning back their ears and going after ARod, and milk the clock enough to rest the defense.

                        Bottom line: Grant's on IR, so the #2 & #3 RB's move up on the depth chart. Hopefully the step up to the challenge.

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                        • #72
                          I just can't settle on the fact that this is all TT's going to do. If we did lose B Jax, then we'd be hurtin for certain. IMO we need a veteran brought in whether it be a FA or via trade. If this is a potential Super Bowl team, then we can't afford to "go cheap" at one of the most important positions on the roster.
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                          • #73
                            Or go for someone who is more than a one year fix. Offer a first for D. Williams or J. Stewart from Carolina. Williams is a free agent after this year and its hard to see them paying two Rbs starters money. If you make a good offer for Williams I think Carolina would bit since they might loss him after this year anyways. I would love Willams, Jackson, and Starks even more than Grant, Jackson, and Starks.
                            Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                            • #74
                              On second thought a first would probably be to much for WIlliams since he is already 27 and will be a free agent after this season. Stewart is only 23 and has many more years left. WIlliams probably only has 3-4 years left in him to be a starter. If we get Williams for a second I would go for it. Four years of having a back that you know will get the job done for a super bowl team without is worth a second. Imagine next years depth also......Williams, Grant, jackson, and Starks. I have a feeling we would not keep 3 FBs next year if we had Williams lol.
                              Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                              • #75
                                TT has proven he can stack the roster the right way. I am comfortable with this new addition.

                                Every NFL team has depth issues if their #1 RB goes down. Of course the concern is the #2 could go down. That's true of any team!

                                There's a lot of panic merchants on this thread.

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