What's going on in Philly?

[channtheman]

stay classy philly

This implies that at some point in time Philly was classy.

[Joemailman]

stay classy philly

This implies that at some point in time Philly was classy.

Well, there was a time...

[MichiganPackerFan]

stay classy philly

This implies that at some point in time Philly was classy.

Well, there was a time...

Your example of Philly "classy" involves congress???

[MichiganPackerFan]

I think Clark Judge's piece on CBSSports.com was really good:

The startling decision to sit down Kolb one day after Reid named him his starter guarantees that the target critics were readying for Kolb's jersey goes on the chest of Reid instead -- with the entire city of Philadelphia waiting to pounce. If the move backfires and the Eagles flounder, it is Andy Reid -- not Kolb -- who takes the heat ... and tell me that's not how Reid wants it.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13992148/reids-move-to-vick-in-best-interest-of-all-including-kolb

[mmmdk]

Your example of Philly "classy" involves congress???

At the time, yes! Funny stuff btw

[mngolf19]

One of these guys will not be with Philly next season. But which one? Vick is a FA, Kolb is signed long term. Can't sign both long term. So do you trade Kolb or let Vick leave in FA?

[ThunderDan]

One of these guys will not be with Philly next season. But which one? Vick is a FA, Kolb is signed long term. Can't sign both long term. So do you trade Kolb or let Vick leave in FA?

I think over the next 3-5 weeks we will have an answer. If Vick keeps performing they will keep Vick. If not they just let him walk.

[DannoMac21]

I hope Vick fails miserably and Kolb steps in and does good. They didn't even give the guy a chance.

Yeah they did. Vick's stepped in and won them 2 games, and has looked incredible thus far. Why should the Eagles start Kolb? You play to win.

[ThunderDan]

I hope Vick fails miserably and Kolb steps in and does good. They didn't even give the guy a chance.

Yeah they did. Vick's stepped in and won them 2 games, and has looked incredible thus far. Why should the Eagles start Kolb? You play to win.

Kolb got 15 plays against the Packer D. That's all.

Sorry as the future franchise QB of the Eagles your chance is officially over after 15 plays!

[RashanGary]

I have to admit, I thought this was the plan all along. Kolb would suck and Vick comes in to save the day. No one gives a shit about torn up puppies when you're losing by three touchdowns - especially Philly fans. Vick is a great QB. I was thinking that he is like a blend between Fran Tarkinton, Steve Young, and Warren Moon. He has that escapability in the pocket like the Squirrel from MN, he runs in the open field like Young, and he has a smoove deep ball like Moon. If he only had the intermediate throw accuracy, and didn't kill dogs, he might have been an all-time great. As it is, he will make Philly competitive in the NFC East.

I dont' give him quite as much credit as you do as being a passer. He was fine. It seems like he had a lot of other distractions beside football though. A focused Vick, I'll bet he can be an even better passer than he was and he was alright.

He was one of the most electrifying players I've ever seen though. He still is electrifying.

He should start. He's a great player. He's got a little Brett Favre in him though. He'll never be as good as he should be.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Yeah they did. Vick's stepped in and won them 2 games, and has looked incredible thus far. Why should the Eagles start Kolb? You play to win.

Philly lost to us. How did Vick win them 2 games? I'm torn on this. Vick looks great, and it's hard to go away from him. I also think Kolb is going to be a good QB, and giving up on him is rough after 2 quarters. If it's true that they signed Kolb long-term (can't remember), then it may not do long-term harm to start Vick this year. Personally, I think they'll move on from Vick after this year (they may get a nice offer if they franchise and then trade him)--provided they don't get to the Super Bowl with him.

[steve823]

I hope Vick fails miserably and Kolb steps in and does good. They didn't even give the guy a chance.

Yeah they did. Vick's stepped in and won them 2 games, and has looked incredible thus far. Why should the Eagles start Kolb? You play to win.

First, the Eagles (not Vick), only won 1 game..in overtime...against the Lions...with their backup QB.

Second, the Eagles were in a transition year and were likely to finish among the bottom of the division. You can't just have a QB step in and be great (not everyone is like AR ). BUT, if you didn't notice, that whole division is in disarray. The cowboys are imploding or whatever you want to call their mess. The Giants look overrated like always and still have no defense and their WR's look horrible. The Redskins actually look ok ,but don't forget they are still the Redskins. With all that being said, the Eagles actually have a shot at winning their division this year and yes your right, Vick does give them the best chance to win NOW.

Long-term however, I would want Kolb.

On a side note, you guys realize that all this is because of Clay. If Clay didn't dominate the Eagles and give Kolb a concussion, who knows maybe he plays decent or Reid doesn't see Vick play good and stays with Kolb as the starter. Just saying.

[mngolf19]

Yeah they did. Vick's stepped in and won them 2 games, and has looked incredible thus far. Why should the Eagles start Kolb? You play to win.

Philly lost to us. How did Vick win them 2 games? I'm torn on this. Vick looks great, and it's hard to go away from him. I also think Kolb is going to be a good QB, and giving up on him is rough after 2 quarters. If it's true that they signed Kolb long-term (can't remember), then it may not do long-term harm to start Vick this year. Personally, I think they'll move on from Vick after this year (they may get a nice offer if they franchise and then trade him)--provided they don't get to the Super Bowl with him.

Is franchising even going to be an option with the new CBA though?

[Lurker64]

Yeah they did. Vick's stepped in and won them 2 games, and has looked incredible thus far. Why should the Eagles start Kolb? You play to win.

Philly lost to us. How did Vick win them 2 games? I'm torn on this. Vick looks great, and it's hard to go away from him. I also think Kolb is going to be a good QB, and giving up on him is rough after 2 quarters. If it's true that they signed Kolb long-term (can't remember), then it may not do long-term harm to start Vick this year. Personally, I think they'll move on from Vick after this year (they may get a nice offer if they franchise and then trade him)--provided they don't get to the Super Bowl with him.

Is franchising even going to be an option with the new CBA though?

Probably. Teams stand to lose too much if it goes away entirely; think of how awful the Peyton and Brady negotiations going on this year would be if at the end of the year either QB could just walk and go to the highest bidder... the quarterback would really have the team by the shorthairs. The NFLPA will want to see it gone, but since the ownership is going to win this round (at least a Pyrrhic victory in the case of a lockout) it's not going anywhere. It will probably remain limited to one per team, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the owners eliminate the transition tag as a concession to the NFLPA. Who really needs the transition tag anyway?