Week 3: 2010: Official Packers -v- Bears Game Thread

[PackerTimer]

I still can't believe Jones fumbled that fucking ball.

Boom. There's plenty of blame to go around, but that is unbelievable.

McCarthy should have had them let the Bears score at the end to give Rodgers a chance, but those calling for McCarthy's head at this point are misguided in my opinion.

And I'm not calling for his head but why did he challenge the recovery? It was obvious and it cost us a timeout. Really, really bad decision to challenge that call.

Yeah, that was a very bad challenge. Sure, if that call was going to win or lose the game, then you challenge because you have no choice, but why waste a valuable penalty. We still had a chance at that point, even with Jones' costly fumble. There's a lot to clean up, but I think the Lions will be just what the doctor ordered.

I'll cut him a little slack on it--if it had been reversed, that would have turned the game around, and there weren't likely to be any more chances to use the challenge (I think it came with 2:16 to go, and the booth calls challenges after 2:00). I can see why they tried it but I wished at the time and wish now they hadn't.

I would cut him slack if it was close. But there was no way they were overturning that and he had a ton of time to look at it as it took a long time to make the initial call.

[Fosco33]

Trent Dilfer's comments after the game are right on.

Might I add, you need to have some resemblance of a running game too if you want to make it to the Super Bowl.

The lack of running game had NOTHING to do with why we lost this game.

We dominated T.O.P.

Take a look at recent superbowl winners - most (I think 4 of 5) didn't have a star runner (or a 1000 yard rusher).

It's a passing league now. But I do wish we had the option... and when the cold weather hits it'll hurt more.

I have some faith in the rb committee.

[channtheman]

I still can't believe Jones fumbled that fucking ball.

Boom. There's plenty of blame to go around, but that is unbelievable.

McCarthy should have had them let the Bears score at the end to give Rodgers a chance, but those calling for McCarthy's head at this point are misguided in my opinion.

And I'm not calling for his head but why did he challenge the recovery? It was obvious and it cost us a timeout. Really, really bad decision to challenge that call.

Yeah, that was a very bad challenge. Sure, if that call was going to win or lose the game, then you challenge because you have no choice, but why waste a valuable penalty. We still had a chance at that point, even with Jones' costly fumble. There's a lot to clean up, but I think the Lions will be just what the doctor ordered.

I'll cut him a little slack on it--if it had been reversed, that would have turned the game around, and there weren't likely to be any more chances to use the challenge (I think it came with 2:16 to go, and the booth calls challenges after 2:00). I can see why they tried it but I wished at the time and wish now they hadn't.

If you don't challenge that play like a fucking idiot, you have all 3 timeouts to then use at the goal line and at least you get 60 seconds to attempt your own field goal.

Also, I'm just astonished that Jones was whining about not getting the ball enough (at least I recall something like this). Everytime Rodgers throws the ball to that shit bad things happen.

[Iron Mike]

What's the over/under on the Bear trolls showing up to talk smack now???

[vince]

This game does reinforce that this team, so long as Finley and Rodgers stay healthy, can beat anyone - if they can figure out how to get out of their own way.

[Badgerinmaine]

What's the over/under on the Bear trolls showing up to talk smack now???

They are all too schnockered on Old Style to find their keyboards at the moment.

[Little Whiskey]

I still can't believe Jones fumbled that fucking ball.

Boom. There's plenty of blame to go around, but that is unbelievable.

McCarthy should have had them let the Bears score at the end to give Rodgers a chance, but those calling for McCarthy's head at this point are misguided in my opinion.

And I'm not calling for his head but why did he challenge the recovery? It was obvious and it cost us a timeout. Really, really bad decision to challenge that call.

Yeah, that was a very bad challenge. Sure, if that call was going to win or lose the game, then you challenge because you have no choice, but why waste a valuable penalty. We still had a chance at that point, even with Jones' costly fumble. There's a lot to clean up, but I think the Lions will be just what the doctor ordered.

I'll cut him a little slack on it--if it had been reversed, that would have turned the game around, and there weren't likely to be any more chances to use the challenge (I think it came with 2:16 to go, and the booth calls challenges after 2:00). I can see why they tried it but I wished at the time and wish now they hadn't.

I would cut him slack if it was close. But there was no way they were overturning that and he had a ton of time to look at it as it took a long time to make the initial call.

that was a dumbass move to challenge on the fumble. if he didn't challenge that maybe he could have/would have challenged woodson's int when the bears were called for holding. I couldn't believe ESPN didn't show the replay of the int, but instead the replay of the hold. you can challenge the reception but you can't challenge the penalty. come on espn, help out a bit.

[Iron Mike]

This game does reinforce that this team, so long as Finley and Rodgers stay healthy, can beat anyone - if they can figure out how to get out of their own way.

It'd be nice if Jennings showed up on occasion.....

[sheepshead]

I still can't believe Jones fumbled that fucking ball.

Boom. There's plenty of blame to go around, but that is unbelievable.

McCarthy should have had them let the Bears score at the end to give Rodgers a chance, but those calling for McCarthy's head at this point are misguided in my opinion.

And I'm not calling for his head but why did he challenge the recovery? It was obvious and it cost us a timeout. Really, really bad decision to challenge that call.

Yeah, that was a very bad challenge. Sure, if that call was going to win or lose the game, then you challenge because you have no choice, but why waste a valuable penalty. We still had a chance at that point, even with Jones' costly fumble. There's a lot to clean up, but I think the Lions will be just what the doctor ordered.

I'll cut him a little slack on it--if it had been reversed, that would have turned the game around, and there weren't likely to be any more chances to use the challenge (I think it came with 2:16 to go, and the booth calls challenges after 2:00). I can see why they tried it but I wished at the time and wish now they hadn't.

I would cut him slack if it was close. But there was no way they were overturning that and he had a ton of time to look at it as it took a long time to make the initial call.

that was a dumbass move to challenge on the fumble. if he didn't challenge that maybe he could have/would have challenged woodson's int when the bears were called for holding. I couldn't believe ESPN didn't show the replay of the int, but instead the replay of the hold. you can challenge the reception but you can't challenge the penalty. come on espn, help out a bit.

I was saying that also..although Woodson didnt seem to protest very much either.

[Carolina_Packer]

RE. Sheepshead's call for McCarthy's head: I'm not ready to fire him, but the penalties have been a consistent problem with McCarthy's teams. Tonight was just worse than usual, and no, I can't blame the refs. This team cannot contend for a Super Bowl with this propensity for penalties. A disciplined team would have won tonight. Lots of time to fix things, but there's some stuff to be worked on.

Im not either, but I have never been sold on the guy. I thought long ago we had one of the best GMs in football and a very mediocre HC. But we have been dealing with this very problem for 3 seasons. There are guys that have roomed that sideline that would never, ever have put up with this crap for this long.

I wonder how McCarthy feels sometimes about the organizational philosophy to go with a lot of these street free agent, low-round draft picks to develop. The "home grown" talent. It seems like there is never a lot of continuity on special teams, just a lot of young guys trying to make a football roster, and not a lot of stand-out talent. Seems like we discount special teams as a place to focus on and build up the best talent. The defensive backfield is also a question mark with some notable veteran talent, but a lot of question marks with the youth and inexperience. It worked once to roll the dice on an experienced DB like Woodson. Methinks the Packers would have been better off to try and get some help there after the Arizona game exposed them last year and the new and remaining depth was questionable and the fact that aside from Burnett, they apparently didn't see anyone on the draft board that did it for them.

[mraynrand]

I don't know why but Im not really that mad. I guess cause they didn't really beat us and we gave them the damn game.

Yeah. The Packers have a ton of talent. They looked like the better team. Last year they were extremely young. It took them until the end of the season to really click.

This year we're young, but I don't picture it taking as long to really get going. I think we'll come out of this fine.

A win would have been much, much better, but we're still a great team. Tough divisional game.

Youth hurt tonight. Zombo and Burnett's penalties were huge.

Were those youth mistakes? Zombo's paly was perfectly fine. His head was up, he was tackling with his chest and shoulder. That stuff happens. It happened to a Bear lineman on Rodgers. Burnett? He was being held by the receiver and trying to fight back for the ball. The ball was underthrown and he turned back just a hair too late. How many PIs did Woodson have?

[imscott72]

This game does reinforce that this team, so long as Finley and Rodgers stay healthy, can beat anyone - if they can figure out how to get out of their own way.

It'd be nice if Jennings showed up on occasion.....

What the fuck happened to him?

[sheepshead]

RE. Sheepshead's call for McCarthy's head: I'm not ready to fire him, but the penalties have been a consistent problem with McCarthy's teams. Tonight was just worse than usual, and no, I can't blame the refs. This team cannot contend for a Super Bowl with this propensity for penalties. A disciplined team would have won tonight. Lots of time to fix things, but there's some stuff to be worked on.

Im not either, but I have never been sold on the guy. I thought long ago we had one of the best GMs in football and a very mediocre HC. But we have been dealing with this very problem for 3 seasons. There are guys that have roomed that sideline that would never, ever have put up with this crap for this long.

I wonder how McCarthy feels sometimes about the organizational philosophy to go with a lot of these street free agent, low-round draft picks to develop. The "home grown" talent. It seems like there is never a lot of continuity on special teams, just a lot of young guys trying to make a football roster, and not a lot of stand-out talent. Seems like we discount special teams as a place to focus on and build up the best talent. The defensive backfield is also a question mark with some notable veteran talent, but a lot of question marks with the youth and inexperience. It worked once to roll the dice on an experienced DB like Woodson. Methinks the Packers would have been better off to try and get some help there after the Arizona game exposed them last year and the new and remaining depth was questionable and the fact that aside from Burnett, they apparently didn't see anyone on the draft board that did it for them.

there is no way in hell that excessive penalties are the GM's fault. My God TT gets blamed for everything on these boards.

MM was out coached last year in AZ by one of the best coaches in football, plain and simple. On paper we have one of the best teams in the league.

[mraynrand]

This game does reinforce that this team, so long as Finley and Rodgers stay healthy, can beat anyone - if they can figure out how to get out of their own way.

It'd be nice if Jennings showed up on occasion.....

he had a nice drop on that bomb. Would have been in FG position to go up at least 16-0. instead: 10-7 at half (But hey, Jon Gruden said the punt return was the turning point, so what do I know).

[vince]

I thought Clifton, Tauscher and Colledge all left a lot to be desired tonight.

Zombo played well other than the huge helmet-to-helmet penalty late.